With new ANA Sea-Nrt, is there risk that UA will go away?
Dec 10, 2012, 7:37 am
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Since UA doesn't have much of a hub in SEA, there would seem to be a stronger reason, I guess, to keep the flight as opposed to leveraging NH to at least fly feeder passengers onto the flight since there aren't many. There must be enough O&D premium traffic to keep the route viable for UA.
Dec 10, 2012, 8:21 am
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That is the most important point made here. This agreement actually is an encouragement for UA to stop the SEA-NRT flight. They closed the first class lounge in Seattle about 5 years ago. Also, old UA has shrunk operations significantly in Seattle; they used to have two IAD and two ORD redeyes + almost hourly flights to SFO and LAX. Even with the added CO flights, they are not what they used to be. Many of can remember old UA "owning" the N concourse. Now they are maybe 1/2.
I guess UA could swap a 763 on this route to balance with ANA 787's and right-size for the demand if it really has dropped (I've not checked any data so I don't have the actual numbers).
Jul 7, 2013, 3:11 pm
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Interesting
UA875, UA876, SEA-NRT-SEA is not running several days in November and December. It's gone during Thanksgiving week and the time during Christmas and New Year's.
I know that these periods are slow, but I guess UA is surrendering SEA-NRT services to NH and DL.
On the other hand, I noticed that UA852/UA853 is no longer seasonal! And, its been upgraded to a 744! That's dual 744's on SFO-NRT-SFO.
UA875, UA876, SEA-NRT-SEA is not running several days in November and December. It's gone during Thanksgiving week and the time during Christmas and New Year's.
I know that these periods are slow, but I guess UA is surrendering SEA-NRT services to NH and DL.
On the other hand, I noticed that UA852/UA853 is no longer seasonal! And, its been upgraded to a 744! That's dual 744's on SFO-NRT-SFO.
Jul 7, 2013, 3:58 pm
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Interesting
UA875, UA876, SEA-NRT-SEA is not running several days in November and December. It's gone during Thanksgiving week and the time during Christmas and New Year's.
I know that these periods are slow, but I guess UA is surrendering SEA-NRT services to NH and DL.
UA875, UA876, SEA-NRT-SEA is not running several days in November and December. It's gone during Thanksgiving week and the time during Christmas and New Year's.
I know that these periods are slow, but I guess UA is surrendering SEA-NRT services to NH and DL.
Jul 7, 2013, 5:13 pm
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I wish they would up the capacity on the direct IAH-NRT. That flight is consistently one of the most expensive business class flights anywhere, any airline. That's specifically why they probably won't do anything about it though, although if I was ANA or JAL I'd consider running a 787 to capture some of that margin.
Jul 7, 2013, 7:36 pm
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UA started pulling down NRT-US capacity dramatically during the holidays last year.. I'm not sure I'd read too much into this. IIRC they were down to two or three departures on Christmas day last year out of the usual 12 or so flights...
Jul 8, 2013, 7:30 pm
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Interesting
UA875, UA876, SEA-NRT-SEA is not running several days in November and December. It's gone during Thanksgiving week and the time during Christmas and New Year's.
I know that these periods are slow, but I guess UA is surrendering SEA-NRT services to NH and DL.
On the other hand, I noticed that UA852/UA853 is no longer seasonal! And, its been upgraded to a 744! That's dual 744's on SFO-NRT-SFO.
UA875, UA876, SEA-NRT-SEA is not running several days in November and December. It's gone during Thanksgiving week and the time during Christmas and New Year's.
I know that these periods are slow, but I guess UA is surrendering SEA-NRT services to NH and DL.
On the other hand, I noticed that UA852/UA853 is no longer seasonal! And, its been upgraded to a 744! That's dual 744's on SFO-NRT-SFO.
Jul 8, 2013, 9:34 pm
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Back to the original thread topic, I have always seen a lot of paid Business traffic on SEA-NRT from SEA corporate folks. I am guessing if UA has a significant contract for the route then it will continue. Since there are sUA International FA's based in SEA and this is the only Intl flight I would not expect it to switch to a smaller sCO 787 anytime soon.