Wow, they're sure selling a lot of upgrades
Mar 14, 2012, 7:36 am
#781
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near SEA
Programs: UA MM, AS MVPG75K, Marriott Lifetime Gold
Posts: 7,969
I'm still convinced that instrument upgrades are a large cause of the decline in CPUs, and that the upgrade waitlist as shown on the mobile site does not take into account instrument upgrades in the ranking.
So what happens is 2P on a miles upgrade trumps a 1K's CPU, but in the waitlist ranking it is only sorted by status/fare code.
So what happens is 2P on a miles upgrade trumps a 1K's CPU, but in the waitlist ranking it is only sorted by status/fare code.
Mar 14, 2012, 7:48 am
#782
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: TX
Programs: UA mm, Marriott PLT, Hilton Dia
Posts: 580
The policy is that no TOD's are offered until all elites are upgraded (per UAInsider postings PM). An elite should not get an offer (except for a legitimate buy-up to an instant upgrade fare) since they will get or have gotten a complimentary upgrade. If this policy is followed, I find it hard to like any other idea that elites should be offered TOD buy-ups.
On this thread, we are concerned that the policy is not being honored (computer glitch or corporate malfeasance?), and are looking for examples to provide to UA.
To know of a policy violation, we need to know the flight # and fare class, the amount of the offer, and whether at least one elite was not upgraded. The offer must be less than the difference of the fare paid (one way for segment involved only) to the lowest Y/B/M fare. And remember, there may be plenty of non-elites left on the upgrade standby list (non-revs).
On this thread, we are concerned that the policy is not being honored (computer glitch or corporate malfeasance?), and are looking for examples to provide to UA.
To know of a policy violation, we need to know the flight # and fare class, the amount of the offer, and whether at least one elite was not upgraded. The offer must be less than the difference of the fare paid (one way for segment involved only) to the lowest Y/B/M fare. And remember, there may be plenty of non-elites left on the upgrade standby list (non-revs).
Mar 14, 2012, 7:50 am
#783
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
Wow...Never seen the double offered....that price is pretty steep...If that was a R/T price, then that is a "reasonable" deal....
I am surprised I haven't seen this clip anywhere around....yet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWqdk48iJ2E
Just waiting for Nicholas Cage and John Malkovich to make an appearance!!
I am surprised I haven't seen this clip anywhere around....yet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWqdk48iJ2E
Just waiting for Nicholas Cage and John Malkovich to make an appearance!!
Mar 14, 2012, 7:58 am
#784
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA 1K/1MM, Marriott Tit
Posts: 18,236
Mar 14, 2012, 7:59 am
#785
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SRQ-NYC-DCA
Programs: OnePass Infinite CO MM, PC Charter Lifer SkyMiles GM, MileagePlus
Posts: 1,826
Mar 14, 2012, 8:18 am
#786
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,682
Mar 14, 2012, 8:30 am
#787
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: DEN
Programs: Recovering after 7 years of UA 1K, Still UA Silver (Which means nothing), Marriott Lifetime Plat Pre
Posts: 1,950
March 11, DEN-BOS, pre-check-in offered to buy to for $289. At check-in offered to buy up for $89. Didn't buy up either time, eventually cleared into R post boarding.
Purchased H fare. Fare difference between my my H and the M-UP fare = $138.
Something is not working.
Purchased H fare. Fare difference between my my H and the M-UP fare = $138.
Something is not working.
Mar 14, 2012, 8:39 am
#788
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: TX
Programs: UA mm, Marriott PLT, Hilton Dia
Posts: 580
Indeed; ideally you should have been upgraded before the TOD rolled out so that you would not be tempted to waste money. But, this is not an example of an elite losing an upgrade to a TOD offer since you got the upgrade. I am concerned about the sweep process. It could be you got the upgrade because non-elites thought $89 was a lot of money.
Mar 14, 2012, 8:42 am
#789
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA MM Plat; AA MM Gold; HHonors Diamond
Posts: 15,867
There were likely no "M" fares available on your flight at that point. Looks like "B"-"H"=$705-$415=$290 for a flight on March 25 that I checked at random. The buyups are calculated at the lowest available fare that will book you in to an upgradeable bucket.
Mar 14, 2012, 9:00 am
#790
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: DEN
Programs: Recovering after 7 years of UA 1K, Still UA Silver (Which means nothing), Marriott Lifetime Plat Pre
Posts: 1,950
Thanks, that does explain the higher buy-up. I hadn't thought of that.
Mar 14, 2012, 9:11 am
#791
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,933
Yesterday while talking to my g/a friend I mentioned this latest occurrence.
Her immediate answer, " If someone wants to offer me money for a F/C seat, they're getting it before I give it away free, to anyone"!
Dropped the subject as she was very determined and she's retiring in a few months, so it wasn't prudent to get into a full blown discussion with her!
A few minutes later in the UC my friend in there told me that no-one should be able to buy up until after the upgrade list clears.
So there you have it sports fans!
Her immediate answer, " If someone wants to offer me money for a F/C seat, they're getting it before I give it away free, to anyone"!
Dropped the subject as she was very determined and she's retiring in a few months, so it wasn't prudent to get into a full blown discussion with her!
A few minutes later in the UC my friend in there told me that no-one should be able to buy up until after the upgrade list clears.
So there you have it sports fans!
Mar 14, 2012, 9:16 am
#792
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,961
I'm flying LAX-IAD-CLT on Friday. I've been checking R inventory on both legs since the 96-hour mark.
LAX-IAD continues to be R0 (no surprise there)
Yesterday morning, I noted that IAD-CLT was R2, but I was still in Y. A PM to UA Insider fixed this, although I did not receive an upgrade notification e-mail.
Flying back on Sunday CLT-IAH-LAX. CLT-IAH is an RJ.
We're now 2 hours outside of the 1K window, and I'm seeing R8. We'll see what happens in a couple of hours.
LAX-IAD continues to be R0 (no surprise there)
Yesterday morning, I noted that IAD-CLT was R2, but I was still in Y. A PM to UA Insider fixed this, although I did not receive an upgrade notification e-mail.
Flying back on Sunday CLT-IAH-LAX. CLT-IAH is an RJ.
We're now 2 hours outside of the 1K window, and I'm seeing R8. We'll see what happens in a couple of hours.
Mar 14, 2012, 9:24 am
#793
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AA LT Plat, UA 1k/1mm+, National EE, IC Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,605
I'm flying LAX-IAD-CLT on Friday. I've been checking R inventory on both legs since the 96-hour mark.
LAX-IAD continues to be R0 (no surprise there)
Yesterday morning, I noted that IAD-CLT was R2, but I was still in Y. A PM to UA Insider fixed this, although I did not receive an upgrade notification e-mail.
Flying back on Sunday CLT-IAH-LAX. CLT-IAH is an RJ.
We're now 2 hours outside of the 1K window, and I'm seeing R8. We'll see what happens in a couple of hours.
LAX-IAD continues to be R0 (no surprise there)
Yesterday morning, I noted that IAD-CLT was R2, but I was still in Y. A PM to UA Insider fixed this, although I did not receive an upgrade notification e-mail.
Flying back on Sunday CLT-IAH-LAX. CLT-IAH is an RJ.
We're now 2 hours outside of the 1K window, and I'm seeing R8. We'll see what happens in a couple of hours.
Mar 14, 2012, 10:47 am
#794
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: TX
Programs: UA mm, Marriott PLT, Hilton Dia
Posts: 580
I'm flying LAX-IAD-CLT on Friday. I've been checking R inventory on both legs since the 96-hour mark.
LAX-IAD continues to be R0 (no surprise there)
Yesterday morning, I noted that IAD-CLT was R2, but I was still in Y. A PM to UA Insider fixed this, although I did not receive an upgrade notification e-mail.
Flying back on Sunday CLT-IAH-LAX. CLT-IAH is an RJ.
We're now 2 hours outside of the 1K window, and I'm seeing R8. We'll see what happens in a couple of hours.
LAX-IAD continues to be R0 (no surprise there)
Yesterday morning, I noted that IAD-CLT was R2, but I was still in Y. A PM to UA Insider fixed this, although I did not receive an upgrade notification e-mail.
Flying back on Sunday CLT-IAH-LAX. CLT-IAH is an RJ.
We're now 2 hours outside of the 1K window, and I'm seeing R8. We'll see what happens in a couple of hours.
Mar 14, 2012, 11:55 am
#795
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K/MM
Posts: 234
OK, I'd be happy to be a guinea pig if anyone is interested. I just don't know if I'd be helpful, as I am not on a EUA itinerary.
I am flying internationally on a W fare with SWUs that were applied in December.
R/RN are 0 and neither has cleared. I am 28 hrs from departure. I've been checking obsessively and I have seen both F and C inventory change daily.
I am flying internationally on a W fare with SWUs that were applied in December.
R/RN are 0 and neither has cleared. I am 28 hrs from departure. I've been checking obsessively and I have seen both F and C inventory change daily.