Another example that this is going to be COdbaUA
Aug 3, 2011 | 5:02 pm
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In the mean time, CO will allow you to enjoy your Lipton tea, and America's only lounge product without a cappuccino machine as you await your narrowbody BF flight to Europe, not to mention your pillow-less domestic connection on America's only domestic premium cabin flight with first class beverage charges.
Aug 3, 2011 | 5:03 pm
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Aug 3, 2011 | 5:34 pm
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doing nothing about the dismal terminal opting to refurbish IAD instead? That sounds like the pre merger United attitude of customer comfort be damned. i think I will fly Lufthansa to Europe rather than endure a 757. They have new big aircraft and are serious about customer service.
Seriously. I can feel the heat radiating from these posts.
Yeah, there may be some truth in there, but I think most of the overwhelming customer response to some of the changes come from outside FT.
Aug 3, 2011 | 5:59 pm
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Really?
Given that BusinessFirst has routinely received awards and accolades from respected industry observers for years while United is only now in a position to be called competitive in Business Class, I'll claim the mantle of appreciation of quality and exclusivity on behalf of PMCO flyers.
In any event, I've flown on the 747 upper decks of more airlines than I can count with both hands, and stand by my observation of the hilarity of begging one's way into the upper deck of a 747 while shunning the same seat product on a 757.
In any event, I've flown on the 747 upper decks of more airlines than I can count with both hands, and stand by my observation of the hilarity of begging one's way into the upper deck of a 747 while shunning the same seat product on a 757.
As far as the 747 goes it will always trump a 757 in my book... Maybe the 787 will trump that. But we shall see. ^
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:03 pm
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Aug 3, 2011 | 6:05 pm
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For starters, I know there's more (much more), it's just hard to find them.
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:16 pm
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People really need to get over this belief that IAD should be the biggest jewel on the crown. Who gives a f#@% if it's the international gateway to Washington?! Very few people from abroad go to Washington unless they have to. NYC on the other hand....
IAH is the largest hub in the system, and IAD isn't. Terminal B at IAH needs a serious update. C/D at IAD needs to be torn down and a new terminal built in its place. Which would be less time consuming to accomplish?
My "prediction" for the new UA operated by Continental is that EWR, SFO, and IAH will be their key strategic hubs. Then I would put ORD at the 4th spot. Then IAD (but hey, at least it's in better shape than CLE!!!).
IAH is the largest hub in the system, and IAD isn't. Terminal B at IAH needs a serious update. C/D at IAD needs to be torn down and a new terminal built in its place. Which would be less time consuming to accomplish?
My "prediction" for the new UA operated by Continental is that EWR, SFO, and IAH will be their key strategic hubs. Then I would put ORD at the 4th spot. Then IAD (but hey, at least it's in better shape than CLE!!!).
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:24 pm
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What's not relevant about First Class drink charges on Int'l BF tickets?
Someone buying a $10,000 BF ticket to fly LHR-EWR-SAN could incur a drink charge, no? Or get to spend some time in the lounge (which is part of the ticket) enjoying the Lipton tea and America's only network of lounges without cappuccino machines.
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:24 pm
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Aug 3, 2011 | 6:42 pm
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What's not relevant about First Class drink charges on Int'l BF tickets?
Someone buying a $10,000 BF ticket to fly LHR-EWR-SAN could incur a drink charge, no? Or get to spend some time in the lounge (which is part of the ticket) enjoying the Lipton tea and America's only network of lounges without cappuccino machines.
Someone buying a $10,000 BF ticket to fly LHR-EWR-SAN could incur a drink charge, no? Or get to spend some time in the lounge (which is part of the ticket) enjoying the Lipton tea and America's only network of lounges without cappuccino machines.
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:43 pm
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http://www.luxurytravelmagazine.com/...ards-14239.php
For starters, I know there's more (much more), it's just hard to find them.
For starters, I know there's more (much more), it's just hard to find them.
If the CO fanboys are going to keep going on and on, at least they should do it on CO's merits immediately preceding the merger, not the CO circa 2006 they wish would come back from the dead.
By the way, I am not saying this as some sort of UA apologist. I think UA was the superior airline in virtually all respects, but unlike CO apologists, I am willing to admit there were some things (but only a few) that CO did better, like BF food. I have yet to see any CO lovers admit anything but a deep hatred for UA and any admission that UA was better at anything.
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:50 pm
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From the facts in that article, this is based entirely on CO's old BF.
If the CO fanboys are going to keep going on and on, at least they should do it on CO's merits immediately preceding the merger, not the CO circa 2006 they wish would come back from the dead.
By the way, I am not saying this as some sort of UA apologist. I think UA was the superior airline in virtually all respects, but unlike CO apologists, I am willing to admit there were some things (but only a few) that CO did better, like BF food. I have yet to see any CO lovers admit anything but a deep hatred for UA and any admission that UA was better at anything.
If the CO fanboys are going to keep going on and on, at least they should do it on CO's merits immediately preceding the merger, not the CO circa 2006 they wish would come back from the dead.
By the way, I am not saying this as some sort of UA apologist. I think UA was the superior airline in virtually all respects, but unlike CO apologists, I am willing to admit there were some things (but only a few) that CO did better, like BF food. I have yet to see any CO lovers admit anything but a deep hatred for UA and any admission that UA was better at anything.
Aug 3, 2011 | 6:52 pm
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CEO A: Even though our merger partner had success in many ways, there's no way their method can be better than what I've seen at the company I've worked at the past 15 years. I'm skeptical that I'll see anything that would change my mind, and am confident we'll kill off their point of difference. After all, if it was such a good idea, we would have done it already.
CEO B: While my company may have known one version of success, our merger partner had a different one, and I'm going to go forward in leading the combined company with an open, unbiased mindset and learn from what they did well. I won't lean either way until I've had the chance to analyze both sets of books and get a better sense of the customer bases for both airlines.
Who would you rather have as your leader of the world's largest airline? I know who I'd choose.