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Please also see: http://seatexpert.com/seatmap/320/Un..._First_&_Biz)/ and http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...747-400_B.php]

What follows is my assessment of where to sit on the 744, which I sampled on a recent flight from SYD-SFO. I sat in E+ for three hours before a flight cancellation on Tuesday and in 15K in the upper deck in business for 13 hours the following day, so I feel sufficiently well-informed to dispense advice for those cabins. I cannot, however, make a recommendation for business class seating on the lower deck or the E- minus cabin, so with that caveat, here is my feedback on the upper deck . . .

Where should I sit in the upper deck? Any seats better than others?

Unlike the old configuration of the upper deck where certain seats – especially the exit row seats in row 15 – are appreciably better, on the new configuration, there is not really much to distinguish between the upper deck seats except for the limited caveats noted below.

What seats should I try to avoid?

There are only five seats that are nominally less attractive than the rest. 12 J & K are close to the forward lavatories and the flight deck so you can expect increased foot traffic and noise during the flight. The shell for 14K protrudes backward into the exit door area and partially overlaps with the exit door causing a nominal reduction in the view and a possible cold spot due to airflow penetrating the door seal. 17 J & K lose a good deal of privacy because they are visible from the top of the stairs and suffer from increased noise and light from the galley and traffic to and from the galley.

Window or aisle?

Window, definitely. And I say this as someone who is typically an aisle guy. You get the side bins for storage, the view, a little more peace and privacy being further removed from the aisle, and avoid the possibility of being disrupted by a seatmate climbing over you. Climbing over a seatmate in the aisle seat who is in the sleeping configuration requires a little bit of dexterity, but certainly is not terribly difficult for anyone who is at least 6 feet tall. Those who are substantially shorter than 6 feet may want to avoid the window, however.

Forward or backward?

Doesn’t really matter. Due to the pitch of the aircraft, those facing backwards will have their feet slightly below their heads in the sleeping configuration, but we are really splitting hairs here. Personally, I prefer the backward-facing view from the upper deck because you can see the wing and the engines.

What if I’m traveling with more than two people?

You will not be able to see or converse with the passengers whose feet oppose yours behind the wall adjoining the foot pocket and video panel. In other words, to give one example, the passengers in 15 J & K are fully walled-off from the passengers in 16 J & K. The shell of the seat also provides full privacy from behind. So, if you want to keep an eye on travel companions, you should try to sit diagonally across the aisle from one other. Passengers in 15 J & K, for example, will have a good view of passengers in 16 A & B, and vice versa. Actually, if you are travelling in a group of more than two and being able to chat is important to you, you'll probably want to sit in the middle section of the lower deck.

What happened to the exit row?

For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist. The seats in both rows 14 and 15 both back up to the exit area creating something more akin to an exit corridor. No extra legroom or particular advantage to these seats.

How is the seat for sleeping?

It’s a true, parallel-to-the-ground lie-flat seat, which is the big improvement. The arm rests on both sides can be manually lowered so that they don’t extend above the seat in bed configuration, which further increases arm and shoulder room. Unfortunately, for window seaters, there will be a healthy gap between the lowered arm rest and the side bins which means that the extra room on one side isn’t particularly useful since if you stick your arm far enough off the seat, it will essentially drop off a cliff with nothing to prop it up. As a 6-footer, my left foot was a little bit cramped due to the curvature of the foot-pocket, although this was not terribly bothersome. Both my seatmate and I felt that the seat lacked sufficient padding in the lumbar region of the back so we both woke up with sore lower backs.

What is the audio and video on-demand like?

For United and in comparison to the old configuration, great. The video screens are positively huge. There aren’t as many movies as one may find on airlines like Singapore, but still, there should be enough features to keep all but the most demanding and fickle passengers entertained.

As for the E+ cabin . . .

Seat pitch seems indistinguishable throughout, the bulkhead row 19 excepted. I don't care for the seats in row 19 myself because the hard bulkhead without cutouts effectively prevents all but the shortest traveler from stretching out his or her feet. This is true of both the outside seats as well as the middle section.

I would strongly advise against any D seat -- the aisle seats on the port side of the middle section -- because the audio boxes are beneath those seats and inhibit leg room for the left foot. There still should be enough room to place both feet, but only at a fairly sharp and uncomfortable angle.

As an aisle guy, I would go with one of the G seats. No audio box inhibiting leg room and landlocked middle seat passengers can access the aisle in either direction cutting in half your chance of getting bumped or bothered while you are trying to sleep.

There are still no individual seat-back video screens, unfortunately, so you are stuck with whatever programming UA runs on the main screens. Fortunately, the main screens have been upgraded to LCD screens. Sit at least a few rows back from row 19 to avoid being uncomfortably close to the screens.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 5:39 pm
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8D or 9J on 747?

Neither are optimal (IMO) and definitely #firstworldproblem ... but I'm inclined to pick 8D to avoid the galley traffic/light. Thoughts?
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 6:11 pm
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Family of four in BF, LAX-SYD

For a family of four in Business First, LAX-SYD, what would you pick between these two choices:

A. Seats 16 A,B,J,K in the upper deck. These seats are all aligned in the same row, so the passenger in 16B will be right next to the passenger in 16J.

B. Seats 14 A,B and 13 J,K. In that part of the cabin, the rows are not quite aligned, and 13 J,K is closer to 14, A,B then it is to 14 J,K. Just by looking at the diagram I assume that passengers sitting in 13 J,K can have eye contact with those in 14 A,B throughout the flight.

Thank you, in advance, to anyone who is familiar with the UD of the 747 and who would be willing to assist us with this choice.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by txp
For a family of four in Business First, LAX-SYD, what would you pick between these two choices:

A. Seats 16 A,B,J,K in the upper deck. These seats are all aligned in the same row, so the passenger in 16B will be right next to the passenger in 16J.

B. Seats 14 A,B and 13 J,K. In that part of the cabin, the rows are not quite aligned, and 13 J,K is closer to 14, A,B then it is to 14 J,K. Just by looking at the diagram I assume that passengers sitting in 13 J,K can have eye contact with those in 14 A,B throughout the flight.

Thank you, in advance, to anyone who is familiar with the UD of the 747 and who would be willing to assist us with this choice.
Have done upper deck numerous times with both UA and LH. I would pick upper deck every day of the week, as it is very private and service tends to be more attentive.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
Have done upper deck numerous times with both UA and LH. I would pick upper deck every day of the week, as it is very private and service tends to be more attentive.
Thank you. Do you have a recommendation between my choices (A) and (B), above?
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by txp
Thank you. Do you have a recommendation between my choices (A) and (B), above?
I would go with A. Also know that B is not an option if your family of four consist of two children requiring car seats as they have to sit facing forward and in the window seat.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by USFdonWill
I would go with A. Also know that B is not an option if your family of four consist of two children requiring car seats as they have to sit facing forward and in the window seat.
Thank you. The kids are past the car seat age, but choice A seems to be the better for us, and I selected these seats. Unless someone can point out an advantage to B, I will stay with A.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 2:35 pm
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8D or 9J on 747?

Originally Posted by malgudi
Neither are optimal (IMO) and definitely #firstworldproblem ... but I'm inclined to pick 8D to avoid the galley traffic/light. Thoughts?
Absolutely wrong, and not because 8D is a middle seat in a section of four, while 9J is an aisle.

Avoid central section of Row 8 (CDGH) at all cost. Unless you like to look into the toilet rooms every time someone enters or leaves. It actully is worse than that. The doors open in such a way that you have a direct view of the toilet itself. You have to take action (closing your eyes or look away) to avoid having the full view. In this regard the central seats (DG) are slighly protected from the aisles (GH) with less smell.

Adding to this is the fact that B747s are so old and rundown. Most of the toilet room doors need bepushed to full close. Many passengers leave without a positive push, so the door will remain open and you can enjoy the view of the toilet until someone else enters.

It is ironic that SeatGuru now color 8D and 8F desirable seats. I guess that is because the movies have been boring.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by txp
Thank you. Do you have a recommendation between my choices (A) and (B), above?
Personally, I'd go for B, but you'll be good either way. 13J (rear facing, very dark / quiet) is the best seat on the plane hands down.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 3:10 pm
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Just got off a HKG-ORD flight.

I can say with 100% certainty I will never fly on a 744 with United until they update coach. If you are coming to this thread looking for the best coach seats for the 744- change your flight =)
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by paulyras
Personally, I'd go for B, but you'll be good either way. 13J (rear facing, very dark / quiet) is the best seat on the plane hands down.
The middle of the cabin (15A/K) are also a good choice.. No lav sounds, especially when the pilots come out for their break, and both lav doors are locked into the open position..

Originally Posted by inthemix
Just got off a HKG-ORD flight.

I can say with 100% certainty I will never fly on a 744 with United until they update coach. If you are coming to this thread looking for the best coach seats for the 744- change your flight =)
What part of the Y cabin were you in?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 11:06 pm
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Originally Posted by inthemix
Just got off a HKG-ORD flight.

I can say with 100% certainty I will never fly on a 744 with United until they update coach. If you are coming to this thread looking for the best coach seats for the 744- change your flight =)
No doubt that is a tough slog even if UA Y was updated. The worst feeling in the world when crammed into a UA 747 Y seat is looking at your watch, noticing that 7 hours of your flight have gone by and then realizing that you still have 7 more hours to go.

I lucked out on my last trip in UA 747 Y SFO-HKG and got an empty seat next to me (and the person sitting in the aisle seat was a 4'10" 82 year old, so she took up no space at all). I was still saddlesore and my legs were cramped when I deplaned, but at least I was able to squirm around a bit and keep the pain in the rear end away.....
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 11:36 pm
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Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on a United 747

Just to reiterate, I always take a stroll through the entire plane at least once per flight, usually taking mental notes of the best seat in each cabin. After two walk-throughs on the 747 I can say honestly that there are no good seats in economy.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by harryhood
The worst feeling in the world when crammed into a UA 747 Y seat is looking at your watch, noticing that 7 hours of your flight have gone by and then realizing that you still have 7 more hours to go.
I know that feeling . . . and I get it regardless of the plane.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 12:03 pm
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Thanks! I ended up in 6B both ways ... can't complain

Originally Posted by PanAmWT
Absolutely wrong, and not because 8D is a middle seat in a section of four, while 9J is an aisle.

Avoid central section of Row 8 (CDGH) at all cost. Unless you like to look into the toilet rooms every time someone enters or leaves. It actully is worse than that. The doors open in such a way that you have a direct view of the toilet itself. You have to take action (closing your eyes or look away) to avoid having the full view. In this regard the central seats (DG) are slighly protected from the aisles (GH) with less smell.

Adding to this is the fact that B747s are so old and rundown. Most of the toilet room doors need bepushed to full close. Many passengers leave without a positive push, so the door will remain open and you can enjoy the view of the toilet until someone else enters.

It is ironic that SeatGuru now color 8D and 8F desirable seats. I guess that is because the movies have been boring.
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Old Mar 1, 2013, 11:30 pm
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E+ window vs. E aisle?

Have not followed this thread for a while. Search did not provide me much useful info so I will ask my question here:

Seems there is no chance to make a Y to C upgrade for a 12 hr. flight. E+ has been almost full, but E is still wide open. I managed to grab 25A, a window seat in E+ section (last row) but hesitate whether it will be good for me.

I barely sit in a window seat for long or short flights when I have to stay in Y. But will also concerned the leg room if I pick an aisle seat in regular E.

What will be your comment/opinion? Thanks.
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