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Masks are being dropped everywhere around the world, we are bound to see some wild spikes, at least until the Northern Hemisphere starts warming up more. People in theirs 70s are catching it, many people of all ages I am hearing with fever, really bad throats, and at least moderate symptoms. Thank God at least this is the moment we have a decent supply of early therapeutics available (at least in the UK/US), as the prophylactic effects of the boosters may start waning a bit, too.
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Originally Posted by DaveS
(Post 34062925)
I have a relative who attended a conference recently. The first one since the start of the pandemic as the company had been careful, but they felt they had to get back to normality with restrictions being lifted. She managed to infect at least 8 people at the conference and all of her family!
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Originally Posted by DaveS
(Post 34062925)
I will speculate if I may. First of all, the hospital admissions are likely reflecting the increase in cases in general. That is admitted with covid rather than because of it - I think everyone is still tested when going into hospital. The rise in deaths may be caused by the same thing, i.e. with it rather than because of it. There would be no lag if that were the case.
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Originally Posted by DaveS
(Post 34062925)
I think everyone is still tested when going into hospital.
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Originally Posted by Misco60
(Post 34063224)
How does she know that it was she who infected all those people and not someone else? Did you know she had covid before attending the conference?
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Originally Posted by nk15
(Post 34062980)
Masks are being dropped everywhere around the world, we are bound to see some wild spikes, at least until the Northern Hemisphere starts warming up more. People in theirs 70s are catching it, many people of all ages I am hearing with fever, really bad throats, and at least moderate symptoms. Thank God at least this is the moment we have a decent supply of early therapeutics available (at least in the UK/US), as the prophylactic effects of the boosters may start waning a bit, too.
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Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 34061287)
Is Omicron making a resurgence in the UK? What's going on there? Yeah I see US is pretty low. Is that data perhaps inaccurate?
As an example, I serve on a PTO board of fourteen. These are healthy adults aged 30-52. Every single person has had covid. Most of our spouses and kids have had it. In my daughter's school of 1450 children, they've gone from dozens of cases a week to one last week to none this week so far. The vast majority of teachers have had it. It's just been around too much by now. |
Originally Posted by JNelson113
(Post 34063633)
As to the US, I'll speculate that we are finally getting herd immunity. We have been hit so hard, repeatedly, that it's finally harder for the virus to transmit.
As an example, I serve on a PTO board of fourteen. These are healthy adults aged 30-52. Every single person has had covid. Most of our spouses and kids have had it. In my daughter's school of 1450 children, they've gone from dozens of cases a week to one last week to none this week so far. The vast majority of teachers have had it. It's just been around too much by now. The main reason case numbers are so low in the US, in my opinion, is no one reports home testing. We don't even know how to report it. |
Daily data:
Cases 71,259 (45,656 last Thursday) Deaths 142 (194) Patients admitted 1,406 (1,068 the 27th) Patients in hospital 11,751 (10,714 on the 2nd) Patients in ventilation beds 266 (279 on the 2nd) Vaccinated up to and including 9 March 2022: First dose: 52,687,324 Second dose: 49,150,338 Booster: 38,437,814 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 52.9% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 0.8%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 103.6 today. |
Originally Posted by JNelson113
(Post 34063633)
As to the US, I'll speculate that we are finally getting herd immunity. We have been hit so hard, repeatedly, that it's finally harder for the virus to transmit.
As an example, I serve on a PTO board of fourteen. These are healthy adults aged 30-52. Every single person has had covid. Most of our spouses and kids have had it. In my daughter's school of 1450 children, they've gone from dozens of cases a week to one last week to none this week so far. The vast majority of teachers have had it. It's just been around too much by now. Not sure about the herd immunity either. My wife's a teacher, and teaches an age group that can't be vaccinated. They've had a few cases in her classroom, but I'm not sure it's even hit half. And as far as I know, neither she nor I have had it so far. (Not ruling out being one of those asymptomatic people at some point, but I've never had symptoms that would have made me consider testing to see if I had it.) Heck, I took a cruise as omicron was ramping up, which if you believe the CDC might be one of the most dangerous activities on the planet. |
Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 34061404)
Nobody knows what happen in the UK. Cases and hospitalizations are increasing without any lags. The only theory that can explain this is a change of population behavior. BA.2 increase ? No there would be a lag between cases and hospitalization. Test issues ? ONS would have picked that. Booster waning ? No because the rise is simultaneous along all age range and the booster administration was staggered by age.
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 34064646)
The increases in cases are in those over 55, so the ones most likely to use hospitals anyway and mostly they are boosted. All admissions are tested. It's pretty much across the board, after taking age into consideration, though some particularly steep rises are being registered in North West England, less so in London so far. So my suspicion is that this is due to the reduced wearing of masks, increased socialisations by older people, waning of antibody levels from vaccinations (though not of T cells thankfully). But it is disappointing to see cases rise so quickly again. It is largely the BA.2 version. At the moment second boosters are only being offered to the over 75s and a few other vulnerable groups, and the take up isn't great at the moment. It may be better to offer to the over 50s at least on a "it's there if you want it" basis.
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Originally Posted by nk15
(Post 34065041)
I'll be curious to know at some point when it will be the optimal time for a second booster for those over 50, April-May, Summer, or Sept-Oct...
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Originally Posted by glbltvlr
(Post 34065095)
I suspect we'll be seeing a dual flu/covid shot in the not too distant future with the same annual cadence.
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Originally Posted by nk15
(Post 34065041)
I'll be curious to know at some point when it will be the optimal time for a second booster for those over 50, April-May, Summer, or Sept-Oct...
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