Oct 15, 2020, 6:45 pm
Local lockdowns in the UK
Mar 18, 2021, 4:04 am
#2506
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I don't think there is any "finger-pointing" but rather a straightforward search for the reasons behind the anticipated shortage, which the government is strangely reluctant to share despite them probably being outside the government's control.
Mar 18, 2021, 4:25 am
#2507
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So in terms of projections - it would seem that 40-49 is likely now first half of May and 30-39 second half of May? Anyone disagree with the projections there? And maybe that slides forward a bit if Moderna comes fully online (and back a bit if there’s another batch issue or what not).
We had written off going to the US to get the vaccine (we are US citizens and have residency documents in New York, nevermind that not all states require residency - e.g., Texas who will take anyone who is eligible in a particular county for an appointment based on age/health/occupation even if they live on the moon) but are now reconsidering it.
My wife and I are healthy and are in our late 30s. I don’t think we would travel to get the vaccine a couple weeks earlier. But if you combine the potential to get it in the US in at least later half of April (Several states plan to move to all adults even prior to Biden’s May 1 deadline) and the fact that second doses come much faster - it may result in full vaccination by late May rather than August. That has us at least thinking about reevaluating. We had definitely been operating under the assumption we would have our first dose in the UK in April which now seems nearly impossible.
Moving back closer to the thread topic - I am optimistic that this issue only is a psychological hits to people’s increasing expectations and not the overall timeline which informed lockdown easing.
We had written off going to the US to get the vaccine (we are US citizens and have residency documents in New York, nevermind that not all states require residency - e.g., Texas who will take anyone who is eligible in a particular county for an appointment based on age/health/occupation even if they live on the moon) but are now reconsidering it.
My wife and I are healthy and are in our late 30s. I don’t think we would travel to get the vaccine a couple weeks earlier. But if you combine the potential to get it in the US in at least later half of April (Several states plan to move to all adults even prior to Biden’s May 1 deadline) and the fact that second doses come much faster - it may result in full vaccination by late May rather than August. That has us at least thinking about reevaluating. We had definitely been operating under the assumption we would have our first dose in the UK in April which now seems nearly impossible.
Moving back closer to the thread topic - I am optimistic that this issue only is a psychological hits to people’s increasing expectations and not the overall timeline which informed lockdown easing.
Mar 18, 2021, 4:29 am
#2508
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I would have thought that the increased risk of exposure through the very process of travel would go some way towards countering the benefits of earlier vaccination. As you say, not worth the hassle (or cost) for what is still in all likelihood a relatively short period of time.
Mar 18, 2021, 4:49 am
#2509
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From Sky news, but doesn't say when in April:
"Moderna jabs to arrive in UK from next monthDeliveries of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine to the UK will start from next month, a spokesman for the company said."
"Moderna jabs to arrive in UK from next monthDeliveries of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine to the UK will start from next month, a spokesman for the company said."
Mar 18, 2021, 5:06 am
#2510
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13901 maybe you want to try your lost puppy look again, today specifically
Mar 18, 2021, 5:07 am
#2511
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You presumably have an AZ jab. If so I would leave it for two reasons: Firstly there may be a knee jerk reaction on the schedules thanks to yesterday's letter (though that was entirely about first jabs incidentally) and secondly for AZ there is a lot of evidence that says "later the better" in terms of overall effectiveness. Pfizer does not have this evidence, in fact almost the opposite, so that's different, but in immune theory terms a delay ought to be better to spread the T cell timeline. One of the reasons why vaccine theory has tended to the earlier slots is purely human behaviour - in more boring circumstances if you leave 2nd dose vaccines too long, people just forget about them and don't turn up for the second dose - but I really don't think that is going to be a problem here. If your second jab is scheduled for close to 11 weeks AND you are past 5 weeks right now, then I guess there is an element of having nothing to lose if you cancel and rebook, but I wouldn't recommend it personally. You will get some slightly badly worded screens which suggests you didn't turn up for your appointment, but ignore those.
Why do you mention 5 weeks? And once the original is cancelled then I guess she could be offered an even later date? Is there no way of seeing availability before cancelling?
Mar 18, 2021, 5:17 am
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Flicked back to see that 11 weeks prior to April 1st is Jan 11th. From about Jan 13th, we average quite a high number of first doses, probably about 400k a day. So vaccination centres and overall jab figures will be high during April, even if it’s very few first jabs. Real shame as we could of got most of the first dosing finished during April
Edit.. would most of the Jan jabs of been Pfizer?
Edit.. would most of the Jan jabs of been Pfizer?
Mar 18, 2021, 5:20 am
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13901 maybe you want to try your lost puppy look again, today specifically
Mar 18, 2021, 5:31 am
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13901 maybe you want to try your lost puppy look again, today specifically
Paulaf, do you do tutorials?
Mar 18, 2021, 5:44 am
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Mar 18, 2021, 5:48 am
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The bills in the post. I think mine and Professor Yaffle worked because we tagged along with someone who was booked in, so you need to ring around your slightly older friends or a older relative going for their 2nd jab maybe. Call it the tag along technique. If you do this just keep pushing forward if a bouncer appears hesitant.
Last edited by paulaf; Mar 18, 2021 at 5:55 am
Mar 18, 2021, 5:56 am
#2517
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Tagging along was definitely the solution - you have to get past the security guys on the door who seemed trained to limit entry - once inside it was a whole different story.
Mar 18, 2021, 5:58 am
#2518
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Agree, the further along the queue of volunteers it seemed to get easier and once sat down don't think they care it's just another arm to be done.
Mar 18, 2021, 6:03 am
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The bills in the post. I think mine and Professor Yaffle worked because we tagged along with someone who was booked in, so you need to ring around your slightly older friends or a older relative going for their 2nd jab maybe. Call it the tag along technique. If you do this just keep pushing forward if a bouncer appears hesitant.
Maybe I did wrong by staying in the car and waiting for them to ask!
Mar 18, 2021, 7:06 am
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-55571793