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enviroian Mar 6, 2021 8:59 am

I hope I as a US citizen can benefit from the local lockdowns come June 10th.

I'll be armed with:

1. Entry negative test
2. Day 2 negative test
3. Last and but not least I'll be vaccinated (getting my jab Monday).

ahmetdouas Mar 6, 2021 9:07 am


Originally Posted by enviroian (Post 33081551)
I hope I as a US citizen can benefit from the local lockdowns come June 10th.

I'll be armed with:

1. Entry negative test
2. Day 2 negative test
3. Last and but not least I'll be vaccinated (getting my jab Monday).

What local lockdown June 10?

enviroian Mar 6, 2021 9:31 am


Originally Posted by ahmetdouas (Post 33081563)
What local lockdown June 10?

sorry I wasn't clear. I'm referring to June 10th as that's when I'll be visiting. I'm hoping the 10 day quarantine for visitors will be lifted.

HB7 Mar 6, 2021 10:35 am

158 deaths reported today vs the 290 last Saturday. That's a 45% drop, which is massive and it's been at a very high rate for the last week or so, with the last 7 days lower than last week by 34%, which is great to see.

Schools go back next week, so we probably will see a plateau in cases, but hopefully deaths continue to tumble down. I think the important thing with cases from next week would be to pay more attention to the positivity rate, which currently stands at approximately 0.6%.

By late April, assuming the UK hits its vaccination target, deaths really should have been almost completely stopped.

ahmetdouas Mar 6, 2021 10:47 am


Originally Posted by enviroian (Post 33081606)
sorry I wasn't clear. I'm referring to June 10th as that's when I'll be visiting. I'm hoping the 10 day quarantine for visitors will be lifted.

I think may 17 they will make a list of naughty/not naughty

paulaf Mar 6, 2021 11:25 am


Originally Posted by HB7 (Post 33081723)
158 deaths reported today vs the 290 last Saturday. That's a 45% drop, which is massive and it's been at a very high rate for the last week or so, with the last 7 days lower than last week by 34%, which is great to see.

Schools go back next week, so we probably will see a plateau in cases, but hopefully deaths continue to tumble down. I think the important thing with cases from next week would be to pay more attention to the positivity rate, which currently stands at approximately 0.6%.

By late April, assuming the UK hits its vaccination target, deaths really should have been almost completely stopped.

Its good news indeed that deaths are falling so quickly, according to my simple spreadsheet, not like CWS's, we may see single figure daily deaths by around 12th April +/- a few days. Average weekly deaths over 7 days now at 220, getting closer to the 200 mark - hopefully in a few days.

Dan1113 Mar 6, 2021 12:37 pm

To not lose the progress, I am worried that Scotland will continue to make it illegal to not only go abroad but even the rest of the UK throughout all of summer, with a hotel quarantine for all destinations. :(

Silver Fox Mar 6, 2021 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33081986)
To not lose the progress, I am worried that Scotland will continue to make it illegal to not only go abroad but even the rest of the UK throughout all of summer, with a hotel quarantine for all destinations. :(

Very simple, when you come back through and they ask where have you been, just say "I don't recall".

:)

ahmetdouas Mar 6, 2021 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33081986)
To not lose the progress, I am worried that Scotland will continue to make it illegal to not only go abroad but even the rest of the UK throughout all of summer, with a hotel quarantine for all destinations. :(

doesn’t Scotland want to separate from England anyway? Wasn’t Nicola’s intention for a Berlin Wall? Covid seems to have come in handy for her political agenda !

Misco60 Mar 6, 2021 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33081986)
To not lose the progress, I am worried that Scotland will continue to make it illegal to not only go abroad but even the rest of the UK throughout all of summer, with a hotel quarantine for all destinations. :(

The Scottish government will do what it believes is best for Scotland. And it seems to work: the covid death rate in Scotland is a third less than that in England, effectively saving 3,000 lives, which I think is a fair trade-off for not being able to go on holiday.

CKBA Mar 6, 2021 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by HB7 (Post 33081723)
158 deaths reported today vs the 290 last Saturday. That's a 45% drop, which is massive and it's been at a very high rate for the last week or so, with the last 7 days lower than last week by 34%, which is great to see.

The only problme with such numbers is that a covid 'death' is only counted if the person tested positive in the last 28 days. If they have covid and survive 29 days, they don't count in the UK government statistics - therefore there is an imposed tail-off in the number of deaths purely due to the reporting, rather than the actual number of people dying of covid (or covid-related complications).

cauchy Mar 6, 2021 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by Misco60 (Post 33082107)
The Scottish government will do what it believes is best for Scotland. And it seems to work: the covid death rate in Scotland is a third less than that in England, effectively saving 3,000 lives, which I think is a fair trade-off for not being able to go on holiday.

There's a minor problem with this analysis. Scotland has 171 deaths per 100k (death certificate, not the 28 day figure). Sweden has 127 per 100k. That's equivalent to an extra 2500 deaths in Scotland. Has Scotland's lockdown done more harm than good?

flyertalker0013223 Mar 6, 2021 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by cauchy (Post 33082429)
There's a minor problem with this analysis. Scotland has 171 deaths per 100k (death certificate, not the 28 day figure). Sweden has 127 per 100k. That's equivalent to an extra 2500 deaths in Scotland. Has Scotland's lockdown done more harm than good?

You'd probably want to know that according to the death certificate, Sweden has less Covid-19 deaths than the "official" count, because the Public Health Authority counts as a Covid death anyone who died within 28 days of a positive test result. The latest document from the Swedish national statistics authority revealed that in fact roughly 1,000 Covid deaths were not due to Covid after all.

Misco60 Mar 6, 2021 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by cauchy (Post 33082429)
There's a minor problem with this analysis. Scotland has 171 deaths per 100k (death certificate, not the 28 day figure). Sweden has 127 per 100k. That's equivalent to an extra 2500 deaths in Scotland. Has Scotland's lockdown done more harm than good?

Well, no, because Scotland's death toll would undoubtedly have been even higher if there had been no lockdown.

None of the UK nations has performed well during the pandemic, and bringing Sweden into it doesn't change the fact that on almost every measure Scotland has done better than England.

Silver Fox Mar 6, 2021 11:52 pm


Originally Posted by cauchy (Post 33082429)
There's a minor problem with this analysis. Scotland has 171 deaths per 100k (death certificate, not the 28 day figure). Sweden has 127 per 100k. That's equivalent to an extra 2500 deaths in Scotland. Has Scotland's lockdown done more harm than good?

Additionally, outside of current reality Scotland has a very poor health record and has the lowest life expectancy in the UK for both men and women. It was pretty poor compared to other countries in western Europe last time I looked. Anyway, thread drift.


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