Originally Posted by paulaf (Post 33066984)

As I said retired (very early) successful CFO.

Originally Posted by rockflyertalk (Post 33067011)

There’s no going back. We can only go forward.

Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 33066988)

If by end of March deaths were heading back up and hospitalisations spiking again, then of course the relaxation of lockdown should be postponed. Why shouldn’t that principle apply both ways?

Originally Posted by Silver Fox (Post 33067006)

This was not ebola.

Originally Posted by Kgmm77 (Post 33067056)

Because as has been found repeatedly over the last 12 months, hospitalisations are a lag indicator, 2-4 weeks in arrears, and if you decide on that basis, it’s too late. Even deciding on case increases is arguably too late based on the ineffectiveness of test and trace.

Originally Posted by IAN-UK (Post 33067010)

Now THAT is a gnomic response :)

....but congratulations on the promotion

Originally Posted by paulaf (Post 33067073)

Not sure I understand your point, what promotion?

Originally Posted by IAN-UK (Post 33067010)

Now THAT is a gnomic response :)

....but congratulations on the promotion

Originally Posted by flashware (Post 33066517)

With J&J now being approved as a single shot vaccine, will that make its way here? Could be another positive step in the wider program.

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33066983)

Formally, I don't think anyone had any specific idea as to what exactly the vaccines would do, what success would look like, beyond a general hope to cut the death rate and prevent the NHS from being ovewhelmed, now and in the future. The reason being is that the clinical trials produced a whole load of data, based entirely on whether vaccines would reduce the likelihood of having a positive Covid test result after the vaccine. In it is now blindingly obvious that this is merely a helpful by product, what we really want is to prevent people from getting poorly, going to hospital, dying. These were not directly in the clinical trials, but recent data is giving this huge comfort factor at the top end of expectations. There was no expectation of transmission being arrested by vaccines, but thankfully it is now demonstrated.

But I can disclose one stark fact, shared with ministers yesterday, which has sent around a very pleasant shock to everyone: as of Saturday morning there wasn't a single person in ICU in England with Covid who was over 85 years old. The first time in 11 months.

The pressure we should be putting on our elected representatives is nothing to do with lockdown, it should be about speeding up vaccinations.

Originally Posted by ahmetdouas (Post 33067372)

Cases now lower than September levels (percentage of positives) , yet everything was open then and then pray everything is closed. Not only that, we now have a good amount of the vulnerable vaccinated. Why are things closed ?

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33067398)

'Cos an average of 324 people are still dying a day from a preventable disease. Serene patience for a few more weeks will make the sweet taste of victory feel even better for everyone. [Yesterday it was 334, btw]

Originally Posted by ahmetdouas (Post 33067416)

yes but deaths are from cases a long time ago not now. We can’t dwell on the past but look to the future!