TK is useless
#31


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I lived in Riyadh for three years and Jeddah was a shining halcyon beacon in comparison.
#33




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Once suit is instituted against TK (I'm an attorney and this suit is going to be a pleasure to pursue) there's a great Federal law that allows me to get a Federal Marshall to seize any TK assets that might be removed from the Court's jurisdiction, such as one of their planes. Hopefully the plane seized (yes, like LH learned the hard way years back, they can eventually bond the seized plane out, but in he former instance it took 3-days as I made sure I filed at 5-minutes to 5PM on a Friday and the motion does NOT require TK to be noticed or even be represented) won't be the one your flying on.
1) You realize you actually have to win your suit and they have to not pay you before any asset seizing is going to take place, right?
2) In preparation for your brief, please explain why you think any District Court is going to have jurisdiction over a ticket bought outside the United States for travel occurring completely outside the United States.
3) For extra credit, please explain why you think your claim will allow for punitive damages despite the fact that the Montreal Convention does not allow for them.
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When can we finally expect the seizure of TK jets ?
Note to the OP: I would highly appreciate if you could arrange that the ones with old business class seats are taken off the market first!
Note to the OP: I would highly appreciate if you could arrange that the ones with old business class seats are taken off the market first!
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#39
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This has NEVER been about $$$$$$$$, but only protecting ones rights to
(1) receive the difference between C & Y refunded, (2) have TK either comply with *A rules regarding lounge access and/or their own written statements that access is allowed for guest (fraud in the inducement/ deterimental reliance) and (3) have them comply with their own tariffs regarding Senior discounts.
As to my rates, that's up to the trial judge to determine reasonableness, but these are my offices stated rates and I've never been denied our office rates in the past.
As to having TK assets that are to be removed from the Ct's jurisdiction, that's not only the law, but logical. Once seized, no one is suggesting that the asset can be immediately sold, however after the seizure of assets being removed a bond will be put up in lieu of the seized asset and the asset released. If this incoveniences TK, well, they've brought this upon themselves.
(1) receive the difference between C & Y refunded, (2) have TK either comply with *A rules regarding lounge access and/or their own written statements that access is allowed for guest (fraud in the inducement/ deterimental reliance) and (3) have them comply with their own tariffs regarding Senior discounts.
As to my rates, that's up to the trial judge to determine reasonableness, but these are my offices stated rates and I've never been denied our office rates in the past.
As to having TK assets that are to be removed from the Ct's jurisdiction, that's not only the law, but logical. Once seized, no one is suggesting that the asset can be immediately sold, however after the seizure of assets being removed a bond will be put up in lieu of the seized asset and the asset released. If this incoveniences TK, well, they've brought this upon themselves.
#40




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This has NEVER been about $$$$$$$$, but only protecting ones rights to
(1) receive the difference between C & Y refunded, (2) have TK either comply with *A rules regarding lounge access and/or their own written statements that access is allowed for guest (fraud in the inducement/ deterimental reliance) and (3) have them comply with their own tariffs regarding Senior discounts.
As to my rates, that's up to the trial judge to determine reasonableness, but these are my offices stated rates and I've never been denied our office rates in the past.
As to having TK assets that are to be removed from the Ct's jurisdiction, that's not only the law, but logical. Once seized, no one is suggesting that the asset can be immediately sold, however after the seizure of assets being removed a bond will be put up in lieu of the seized asset and the asset released. If this incoveniences TK, well, they've brought this upon themselves.
(1) receive the difference between C & Y refunded, (2) have TK either comply with *A rules regarding lounge access and/or their own written statements that access is allowed for guest (fraud in the inducement/ deterimental reliance) and (3) have them comply with their own tariffs regarding Senior discounts.
As to my rates, that's up to the trial judge to determine reasonableness, but these are my offices stated rates and I've never been denied our office rates in the past.
As to having TK assets that are to be removed from the Ct's jurisdiction, that's not only the law, but logical. Once seized, no one is suggesting that the asset can be immediately sold, however after the seizure of assets being removed a bond will be put up in lieu of the seized asset and the asset released. If this incoveniences TK, well, they've brought this upon themselves.
#41
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As an attorney, by and through my Code of Ethics, I am required to give the potential defendant Notice of Pending litigation outlining any claims I might have. This was provided to TK on not once, but documented 5-times WITHOUT any reply.
Just out of curiosity: it is not clear from this thread, but have you actually tried writing them a letter explaining the situation in black and white (perhaps without threatening a lawsuit to seize their assets), and given them time to respond? If so, what was their reply?
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I've flown them before and though that the service was very good.^ I'll be flying on them again in December. ^