Reporting on Turkish airline subpar experience
#16
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While for the broken seat, the crew could have easily filed a report ( which TK crew have done before during these kinds of issues and the customer service department would proactively offer an apology ) it looks like on this occasion this was not made.
However, I don't know any airline who would apologize other than sending "we are sorry for the inconvenience, etc..." kinds of texts/e-mails or similar announcements via the speaker at the gate area for a non-significant delay. It would also be great what was wrong with the check-in process.
Also, the additional security checks for UK, Canada, USA, and Israel flights are made on the demand of the authorities of the arrival country. TK has no control on this. When Air Canada flying was operating the same route in the past, they had similar measures as request of the Canadian authorities. For reference, even Wizzair flights to LTN have the same security that you have encountered due to the request of UK authorities. Albeit, Gözen Aviation Security ( which TK contracts for this service ) could actually purchase scanning devices and make this search more customer-friendly ( like in Doha Airport ), but they prefer to do that hand-search tradition, in order to cost cut and raise profits as they are a monopoly for this service at IST.
However, I don't know any airline who would apologize other than sending "we are sorry for the inconvenience, etc..." kinds of texts/e-mails or similar announcements via the speaker at the gate area for a non-significant delay. It would also be great what was wrong with the check-in process.
Also, the additional security checks for UK, Canada, USA, and Israel flights are made on the demand of the authorities of the arrival country. TK has no control on this. When Air Canada flying was operating the same route in the past, they had similar measures as request of the Canadian authorities. For reference, even Wizzair flights to LTN have the same security that you have encountered due to the request of UK authorities. Albeit, Gözen Aviation Security ( which TK contracts for this service ) could actually purchase scanning devices and make this search more customer-friendly ( like in Doha Airport ), but they prefer to do that hand-search tradition, in order to cost cut and raise profits as they are a monopoly for this service at IST.
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As for your comment what does “many” mean? Twelve FT posts? A valid independent survey? A one time poster?
#18
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It is relevant to the fact the OP might be out of touch with current conditions. Not saying everything went perfectly but secondary screening most likely wasn’t humiliating and the rest seems a bit over the top.
As for your comment what does “many” mean? Twelve FT posts? A valid independent survey? A one time poster?
As for your comment what does “many” mean? Twelve FT posts? A valid independent survey? A one time poster?
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In any case, I agree with OP that he/she should boycott TK in the future based on his/her own experience.
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#20
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Everyone take a deep breath and spend a little time reviewing our FT rules https://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules and in particular how we should interact with another. I also would like to remind everyone that sarcasm or tongue in cheek comments do not always translate well across cultural and language differences and the great diversity we have here in FT.
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#21
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OP didn't say if it was a full flight. But OP could have made the request to move to a different seat or just moved himself/herself and deal with the FA on the spot. Why didn't OP do it?
In any case, I agree with OP that he/she should boycott TK in the future based on his/her own experience.
In any case, I agree with OP that he/she should boycott TK in the future based on his/her own experience.
I have had half broken table on my seat, IFE not working, charging port didn't work. It is certainly a common occurrence.
Not all airlines/countries have compensation culture like the US. Mr. said, "did the ticket specify that they shall provide you IFE?"
I agree with you, OP is free to vote with his wallet - he should patronize the businesses that take good care of him.
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Usually, those customer service departments in the Philippines or India who read complaints and award compensation, don't action anything and the same issue persists over and over.
#23
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I flew TK to/from US in early October, 3 years after my last TK flight (DEC 2019 to Asia). The onboard service and cabin crew interaction was definitely worse than I expected /remembered from the past.
Based on the above experience, I would not be surprised if the cabin crew on the OP flight couldn't care to log a report or be a bit proactive in fixing or minimizing the issue.
Based on the above experience, I would not be surprised if the cabin crew on the OP flight couldn't care to log a report or be a bit proactive in fixing or minimizing the issue.
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Also the compensation structure of US companies is a bit weird, those vouchers are usually thrown for purposes of "shut-up and go-away" rather than solving the issue.
Usually, those customer service departments in the Philippines or India who read complaints and award compensation, don't action anything and the same issue persists over and over.
Usually, those customer service departments in the Philippines or India who read complaints and award compensation, don't action anything and the same issue persists over and over.
I wouldn't say overall TK crew has gotten worse or something, I have met both nice and bad crew.
#25
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I used TK a few times these last couple of weeks - all in business class. The gate screening applied to my flights to Athens as well as Gothenburg and Hamburg - it may be a US and Canadian thing but was also a German, Swedish and Singaporean thing.
I flew SIN-IST and we were ready to depart. We then sat for 90 minutes without a word from the cockpit. Finally departed with the pilot saying they had to change the flight plan because of our delay (but what delayed you in the first place - they notified me the night before that we were going to be delayed, so we compounded the delay). I felt sorry for the connecting pax to ATH/CAI etc - TK personnel meeting the plane shrugged and said you have 15 minutes so run.
I hate IST as an airport. I had to show my passport six times to get on the plane. (getting into the terminal, check in, security, immigration, pre-gate check, boarding check). Everywhere is a huge walk in this stupidly big airport. My flight ATH-IST took 50 minutes and the airport taxi time to gate took 40 minutes.
The private coach service from the TK domestic lounge to the plane was nice though. I think TK majors on the onboard food offering as everything else is just what one would expect from DXB/FRA or LAX.
I flew SIN-IST and we were ready to depart. We then sat for 90 minutes without a word from the cockpit. Finally departed with the pilot saying they had to change the flight plan because of our delay (but what delayed you in the first place - they notified me the night before that we were going to be delayed, so we compounded the delay). I felt sorry for the connecting pax to ATH/CAI etc - TK personnel meeting the plane shrugged and said you have 15 minutes so run.
I hate IST as an airport. I had to show my passport six times to get on the plane. (getting into the terminal, check in, security, immigration, pre-gate check, boarding check). Everywhere is a huge walk in this stupidly big airport. My flight ATH-IST took 50 minutes and the airport taxi time to gate took 40 minutes.
The private coach service from the TK domestic lounge to the plane was nice though. I think TK majors on the onboard food offering as everything else is just what one would expect from DXB/FRA or LAX.