Is Global Entry worthwhile?
#556




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It's not just which country at a given time, but which part of the country. The one time I had a can of foie gras confiscated was during a bird flu outbreak in France. The agriculture officer spent several minutes showing me the memo which enumerated which areas of France were infected. It wasn't possible to determine from the label exactly where the foie gras was from, so he erred on the side of caution.
At least I didn't get fined, as I had declared what I was bringing in.
At least I didn't get fined, as I had declared what I was bringing in.I can see why its easier to just say "no meat". Here's the information from the website:
The regulations governing meat and meat products are stringent. You may not import fresh, dried or canned meats or meat products from most foreign countries into the United States. Also, you may not import food products that have been prepared with meat.
The regulations on importing meat and meat products change frequently because they are based on disease outbreaks in different areas of the world. APHIS, which regulates meats and meat products as well as fruits and vegetables, invites you to contact them for more information on importing meats. A list of countries and/or regions with specific livestock or poultry diseases can be found at the Animal Disease Status page. ( Animal Disease Status )
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If you click through to the "Animal Disease Status" page you'll find a list of about 12 categories of diseases - including "African Horse Sickness" and long lists of areas under each of them. I don't see how anyone could quickly determine "meat from France is OK this month".
The regulations governing meat and meat products are stringent. You may not import fresh, dried or canned meats or meat products from most foreign countries into the United States. Also, you may not import food products that have been prepared with meat.
The regulations on importing meat and meat products change frequently because they are based on disease outbreaks in different areas of the world. APHIS, which regulates meats and meat products as well as fruits and vegetables, invites you to contact them for more information on importing meats. A list of countries and/or regions with specific livestock or poultry diseases can be found at the Animal Disease Status page. ( Animal Disease Status )
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If you click through to the "Animal Disease Status" page you'll find a list of about 12 categories of diseases - including "African Horse Sickness" and long lists of areas under each of them. I don't see how anyone could quickly determine "meat from France is OK this month".
#557
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It's not just which country at a given time, but which part of the country. The one time I had a can of foie gras confiscated was during a bird flu outbreak in France. The agriculture officer spent several minutes showing me the memo which enumerated which areas of France were infected. It wasn't possible to determine from the label exactly where the foie gras was from, so he erred on the side of caution.
At least I didn't get fined, as I had declared what I was bringing in.
At least I didn't get fined, as I had declared what I was bringing in.
#558
Join Date: Apr 2002
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So, since it was bottled and sealed (both items in their own way), I did nothing wrong, correct? I wasn't given the opportunity to declare the truffle oil or foie gras, but I wrote it down on the blue declaration form even though it wasn't over the duty free allowance just to be sure.
I just want to make sure I did the right thing...
I just want to make sure I did the right thing...
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Then you actually did declare all of the items, as they were explicitly listed on your blue customs declaration form. It would be impossible for them to claim you were trying to sneak these items in when it was written out for any CBP officer to read right on your form...and if anything, writing it on the form is even better than a verbal declaration, as you have significantly better evidence that you did declare these items (rather than it being just my word against hers) should anyone claim you were trying to sneak something in.
The blue form is just there in case you get an X.
It is best to err on the side of caution: if the kiosk asks if you have "food", then say yes. If the CBP officer then admonishes you for declaring your breath mint, too bad for him. You still get front of line access.
#560
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I just received my Global Entry sticker and authorisation today at Schiphol Airport (FLUX Alliance, ie. Global Entry and Dutch Privium). It was painless. The immigration officer just asked me if I had any criminal convictions or customs offences (obviously not) and told me how to use the machine, making sure to remind me to queue-barge at any available opportunity and to show my sticker. Looking forward to trying it in practice, although I will no doubt be self-conscious the first few times I do it. Interestingly, she made it clear that if I was just bringing back some chocolate or a bottle of duty-free booze, that I should not mark that I am carrying food. Then a nice chat in Dutch with the Marechaussee official about iris scans (we were talking about the UK Iris programme -- apparently the Dutch one is more reliable, which I would find easy to believe based on experience), one more payment to Flux Alliance and off I go. The Privium lounge at Schiphol is really very nice, stylish, something to see. I think it's a good thing that Dutch passport holders can take part in Global Entry and that US nationals can use Privium and it will be interesting to see how this programme is expanded when other countries are added in 2010.
ps: I heartily agree that Global Entry should also be brought to Denver.
ps: I heartily agree that Global Entry should also be brought to Denver.
#561


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One of the best uses for international traveler's $$
I used Global Entry for the first time today at IAH and it was so painless and so quick. As others have noted, there was a CBP officer there to assist at the kiosk.
As you would expect, I did receive some stares when I skipped the US citizen immigration line to go to the kiosks. When I got to customs, the officers pointed out the Global Entry lines on the far left and right sides and told me to be sure to take them in the future so as to speed my way out. We discussed the fact that the sight of some travelers skipping immigration lines and going to the head of customs lines was about the best advertising for the program. One CBP agent at customs said, 'Well, you paid for the privilege."
There appeared to be only about one plane's worth of passengers in the US immigration line today at 5:30 am when I arrived at immigration. When the surge hits out of South America later in the morning and out of Europe, Central America and Mexico in the afternoon, the GE registration process would have to seem even more worthwhile.
As you would expect, I did receive some stares when I skipped the US citizen immigration line to go to the kiosks. When I got to customs, the officers pointed out the Global Entry lines on the far left and right sides and told me to be sure to take them in the future so as to speed my way out. We discussed the fact that the sight of some travelers skipping immigration lines and going to the head of customs lines was about the best advertising for the program. One CBP agent at customs said, 'Well, you paid for the privilege."
There appeared to be only about one plane's worth of passengers in the US immigration line today at 5:30 am when I arrived at immigration. When the surge hits out of South America later in the morning and out of Europe, Central America and Mexico in the afternoon, the GE registration process would have to seem even more worthwhile.
#562
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I arrived to MIA on AA 2110 from Lima yesterday and once again breezed through Immigration.
I wish MIA had a designated GE exit point at baggage claim.
One the CBP agents asked me to tell all my friends about the GE program, which I have.
I wish MIA had a designated GE exit point at baggage claim.
One the CBP agents asked me to tell all my friends about the GE program, which I have.
#563
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The last two times I used the kiosk it actually took longer than the regular line because I was one of the first persons to arrive and I had to check off things on the screen rather than just hand over the pre-filled blue form.
However, even without a line I love the kiosks because I don't have to talk to the agents. It's worth the $20 a year.
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Aren't the CBP folks great? They seem so proud of the program and happy people are using it. It's so unlike the sourpuss TSA guys.
The last two times I used the kiosk it actually took longer than the regular line because I was one of the first persons to arrive and I had to check off things on the screen rather than just hand over the pre-filled blue form.
However, even without a line I love the kiosks because I don't have to talk to the agents. It's worth the $20 a year.
The last two times I used the kiosk it actually took longer than the regular line because I was one of the first persons to arrive and I had to check off things on the screen rather than just hand over the pre-filled blue form.
However, even without a line I love the kiosks because I don't have to talk to the agents. It's worth the $20 a year.
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#567
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Future GE changes
went through the GE interview process about a week or so ago and in casual conversation with the cbp officer he mentioned a couple of interesting things that I didn't know about the program.
1. GE allows you to avoid filling out the blue forms entirely, unless you are traveling in a party with non GE members. In this case, you and your party still must fill out those forms but can skip to the front of the line entirely.
2. CBP and TSA are apparently in early stages of cooperation with some kind of Registered Traveler program ( a government run Clear Card, if you will) based on the results of the GE program.
3. GE will be expanded and special dedicated lanes set up depending on whether the number of travellers on average surpasses some metric at various airports.
Has anyone else heard this or am I just misinformed?
1. GE allows you to avoid filling out the blue forms entirely, unless you are traveling in a party with non GE members. In this case, you and your party still must fill out those forms but can skip to the front of the line entirely.
2. CBP and TSA are apparently in early stages of cooperation with some kind of Registered Traveler program ( a government run Clear Card, if you will) based on the results of the GE program.
3. GE will be expanded and special dedicated lanes set up depending on whether the number of travellers on average surpasses some metric at various airports.
Has anyone else heard this or am I just misinformed?
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went through the GE interview process about a week or so ago and in casual conversation with the cbp officer he mentioned a couple of interesting things that I didn't know about the program.
1. GE allows you to avoid filling out the blue forms entirely, unless you are traveling in a party with non GE members. In this case, you and your party still must fill out those forms but can skip to the front of the line entirely.
1. GE allows you to avoid filling out the blue forms entirely, unless you are traveling in a party with non GE members. In this case, you and your party still must fill out those forms but can skip to the front of the line entirely.
2. CBP and TSA are apparently in early stages of cooperation with some kind of Registered Traveler program ( a government run Clear Card, if you will) based on the results of the GE program.
3. GE will be expanded and special dedicated lanes set up depending on whether the number of travellers on average surpasses some metric at various airports.
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+1.
#570
Join Date: Feb 2008
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This March I will be using my Global Entry for the first time. I have never used or even been shown how to use the machine. Should I make an apointment with the people in ORD to be shown how to use the machine when I return or could I just walk up and explain the situation.
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance


a very accurate summation.