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Welcome to the Travel Safety/Security Trusted Travelers Forum Nexus Information Wiki! This resource will appear at the top of every page within this thread to help users learn more about this program.

About NEXUS

NEXUS is designed to expedite the border clearance process for low-risk, pre-approved travellers into Canada and the United States.

The Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) and U.S. Customs & Border Patrol (CBP) are cooperating in this joint venture to simplify border crossing for members while enhancing security.

Program benefits

If you are approved to participate in NEXUS, you will receive a membership identification card to use when entering Canada or the United States at all designated NEXUS air, land and marine ports of entry.

Membership will enable airline passengers to save time by:
  • using automated self-serve kiosks in dedicated areas at designated international airports;
  • using NEXUS/SENTRI lanes at land crossings when/where available. NEXUS lanes entering Canada will likely have a constant red traffic signal. This is to discourage non-NEXUS members from using the lane. Canada-bound NEXUS land crossing operating hours. All occupants must have NEXUS cards when using NEXUS lane entering Canada. At some locations, the NEXUS lane, the inspection booth is not staffed but there should be a call button. When entering US in a NEXUS/SENTRI lane, all occupants must carry either NEXUS, Global Entry, or SENTRI cards (or any combination thereof). Notable exception is Whirlpool Bridge which requires a NEXUS card to open the toll gate on the Canadian side to cross to the US..
  • As of 17 MAY 2017 - NEXUS members no longer need to complete a paper CBSA Declaration Card (Form E311) when using a NEXUS self-serve kiosk at any Canadian airport where NEXUS is available. (Refer to post #10421)
  • using the Trusted Traveller Canadian Air Transport Security Authority (CATSA) Security Line at major and select medium-sized Canadian airports to expedite airport pre boarding security screening. For detailed information, please visit the CATSA Web site.

Join NEXUS

Here are the steps for becoming a member. There is a non-refundable processing fee of CAN$50 or US$50 per applicant for a five-year membership card.

About NEXUS
Eligibility
How to apply
Enrolment process


Key points about the program as found by forum members:
  • NEXUS cardholders must advise of ANY changes to their vital information such as passport numbers/validity, visa status, legal names, primary residence, criminal convictions, and employment if it impacts your eligibility in the program.
  • It's normal to find the first in-person NEXUS interview to be months into the future, but a little patience and regular checks on the TTP website almost always yields an interview date much sooner.
  • Each person who wants to participate in the NEXUS program must fill out a separate application form. There is no fee for applicants under the age of 18.
  • If traveling with non-NEXUS family members NEXUS cardholders are required to use the regular customs lines.
  • There is a zero tolerance policy and membership can be terminated for infractions including not having your NEXUS card on you and using the NEXUS lane and not declaring items on your customs declaration card, though members have reported some leniency being granted for such infractions in the past.
  • Private companies may offer services for submitting your application and charge an additional processing fee but these extra charges are not part of the official NEXUS application fee. Expedited services offered by such companies will not assist in speeding up the application process.


Updating Passport with Canada for NEXUS

As per CBSA website, updates to passport information can be handled on TTP.
Please note that NEXUS members are not required to report to an Enrolment Centre to update or change their passport information with the CBSA.
This is supported by data points in post 11122 and 11132.

Some FT members don't trust instructions provided by CBSA and recommend the following:
Call the Canadian Processing Centre with responsibility for residents of the United States:
  • 800-842-7647 --- Monday to Friday, 8:30 am to 4:30 pm (Eastern Time)

After going through the phone tree to reach a Nexus representative, advise them that you need to update your US passport with Canada.

The representative will give you an email address and instructions to scan your updated passport picture page (include your trusted traveler number on the scan) and then email it to a particular email address. I was advised to put the representative's name in the email message so that he could process the update on the Canadian side. He confirmed that any passport update in TTP does not reach Canada. NOTE: FT members have been able to enter Canada without any issues by updating passport online only.

He specifically requested that only the telephone number be posted (and not the email address).

In case the telephone number doesn't work, here's the webpage where the phone number is posted: Canada Border Services Agency - NEXUS - General Information
Note:

US citizens/residents who have both Global Entry and NEXUS cards and who renew the Global Entry membership whilst their NEXUS card is active, will not be able to renew the NEXUS card until after it expires. The option to do so disappears from the TTP website.
Dear mxzblftspk,

Your NEXUS membership is not set to expire until July 11 2016.

As an approved NEXUS member, you added Global Entry for an additional $100. When you completed your Global Entry application, you received a Global Entry card. When you activated the Global Entry Card, your NEXUS Card was deactivated and the option to renew NEXUS was removed from your account.

If you wish to renew NEXUS, you will have to wait for your NEXUS membership to expire. Once it expires, you will have the option within your TTP online account to renew NEXUS. After you follow all of the steps to become a NEXUS member again, including the completion of an interview at a NEXUS Enrollment Center near the Canadian border, you will receive a new NEXUS card and will have Global Entry benefits at no additional cost.

When your Global Entry account expires 5 years after your application, do not renew it. Global Entry benefits are included with your NEXUS membership.

It is our goal to provide you the best information we have in response to your question. If you follow the information provided in our response, and still need assistance, please reply to this email and we will investigate how we may further assist you.

Thank you again for contacting the CBP INFO Center.

Sincerely,

CBP INFO Center
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Old Jan 4, 2018, 11:47 pm
  #10831  
 
Join Date: May 2012
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Originally Posted by Kiraly
Point of info regarding crossing at the land border from Canada into the United States and brining passengers with you who are Global Entry members (and have GE RFID cards) but who are not NEXUS members. CBP agent told me two days ago that while some CBP agents may allows this, it is a violation of the NEXUS rules, and not to do it. I looked carefully at the rules and they don't contradict what he said. The GE rules say that It says GE members may use the NEXUS lane when entering the US, but the NEXUS rules say the driver must be a NEXUS member and must ensure that all passengers also be NEXUS members when using the NEXUS lane to enter the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say passengers may have GE only.

Presumably if you have a GE-only passenger, you should switch seats, get him to drive through, and you'd all then be in compliance.
Curious, was this an agent in the Nexus lane at the border?
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Old Jan 5, 2018, 6:31 am
  #10832  
 
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Originally Posted by seawolf
Maybe US law blocking it? Only the locations located in US lack iris scan capability. Non-airport locations located in Canada can take iris scan.
I have always assumed it had to do with InfoSec, since the iris scan is NEXUS-only and the initial scanning (creation) and kiosk use (access) of the iris scan data only occurs in Canada. The data may be held in a system that is isolated from extra-national (to Canada) access. Even though some of the NEXUS program data is shared with CBP, the iris scan data appears to be Canada-only.

Interestingly, I had my interview at Whirlpool (Niagara), where the interview occurs on the US side of the bridge. The interview involved CBSA followed by CBP and fingerprinting for GE. I was then sent to the office on the Canadian side for my NEXUS iris scan. That setup tells me the putting iris scan on Canadian soil was intentional, since the offices are literally 300 yards from each other.
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Old Jan 5, 2018, 8:32 am
  #10833  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by iamflyer
Curious, was this an agent in the Nexus lane at the border?
No, it was a CBP officer at the YVR NEXUS enrollment centre telling me not to bring passengers with GE cards but not NEXUS through the land border NEXUS lane.
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Old Jan 6, 2018, 11:20 am
  #10834  
 
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Originally Posted by Kiraly
No, it was a CBP officer at the YVR NEXUS enrollment centre telling me not to bring passengers with GE cards but not NEXUS through the land border NEXUS lane.
For entry into Canada, that's true. Only NEXUS members can use the NEXUS lane heading north. However, for heading into the US, NEXUS, Global Entry, and SENTRI members can all use the NEXUS lanes heading south, as long as everyone has their cards in hand.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-t...bal-entry/card

Using Your Global Entry Card

We accept Global Entry cards for lawful U.S. entry at land and sea ports of entry.

Global Entry cards have radio frequency identification chips, which enable their use at Secure Electronic Network for Travelers Rapid Inspection (SENTRI) and NEXUS travel lanes when entering the United States at the land borders. You must follow all program rules for SENTRI when using this card at the Southern land border ports of entry.

You may use this card for expedited entry into the United States via the SENTRI and NEXUS lanes. The card is not valid for entry into Canada via the NEXUS lanes.
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Old Jan 6, 2018, 6:20 pm
  #10835  
 
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Originally Posted by dustman81
For entry into Canada, that's true. Only NEXUS members can use the NEXUS lane heading north. However, for heading into the US, NEXUS, Global Entry, and SENTRI members can all use the NEXUS lanes heading south, as long as everyone has their cards in hand.
Nit: "heading north" and "entering Canada" are not always the same thing. For people crossing the border via the Ambassador Bridge or Detroit-Windsor Tunnel (and, arguably, the Blue Water Bridge since it runs slightly northwest-southeast), heading south gets you into Canada and would therefore require NEXUS rather than accepting other US-based TTP cards.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:29 am
  #10836  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by dustman81
For entry into Canada, that's true. Only NEXUS members can use the NEXUS lane heading north. However, for heading into the US, NEXUS, Global Entry, and SENTRI members can all use the NEXUS lanes heading south, as long as everyone has their cards in hand.
Correct, but if the vehicle driver has NEXUS, then he is bound by the NEXUS rules, which say that all passengers must also have NEXUS when using the NEXUS lane in to the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say you can bring passengers who have GE but not NEXUS through the NEXUS lane. This is what the CBP officer was explaining to me, that while some CBP agents at the border will allow NEXUS drivers to do this, others won't, because it's a violation of the NEXUS rules. He emphasized that I should NOT do this.

It's easy to get around this though, by switching seats and having your GE-only passenger drive when using the NEXUS lane into the US. Then you'll both be in compliance.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 11:33 am
  #10837  
 
Join Date: May 2016
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Originally Posted by Kiraly
Correct, but if the vehicle driver has NEXUS, then he is bound by the NEXUS rules, which say that all passengers must also have NEXUS when using the NEXUS lane in to the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say you can bring passengers who have GE but not NEXUS through the NEXUS lane. This is what the CBP officer was explaining to me, that while some CBP agents at the border will allow NEXUS drivers to do this, others won't, because it's a violation of the NEXUS rules. He emphasized that I should NOT do this.

It's easy to get around this though, by switching seats and having your GE-only passenger drive when using the NEXUS lane into the US. Then you'll both be in compliance.
When I first read this, I assumed that CBP was angry that people were using GE in NEXUS lanes, but I was confused since having NEXUS gives you GE. This makes more sense...
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 3:23 pm
  #10838  
 
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Originally Posted by Kiraly
Correct, but if the vehicle driver has NEXUS, then he is bound by the NEXUS rules, which say that all passengers must also have NEXUS when using the NEXUS lane in to the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say you can bring passengers who have GE but not NEXUS through the NEXUS lane. This is what the CBP officer was explaining to me, that while some CBP agents at the border will allow NEXUS drivers to do this, others won't, because it's a violation of the NEXUS rules. He emphasized that I should NOT do this.

It's easy to get around this though, by switching seats and having your GE-only passenger drive when using the NEXUS lane into the US. Then you'll both be in compliance.
This sounds like one of those rules thats technically a rule but no one could care less about. To be honest if I got my Nexus revoked because of something stupid like that I'd probably just never go to the US again, not really much of a loss, most of it is a shithole anyway (and a lot of the people are worse...).

It's almost as bad as SSSS on just one passenger in a multi passenger booking, as you can just give all your crap to whoever your travelling with and there is nothing to be searched. You know because terrorists never travel in groups?

I really wish Canada would have a 5 year Canada only version of Nexus (Not Canpass which only lasts for a year at a time)
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 6:35 am
  #10839  
 
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Does anyone have recent experience with passport renewal and updating the information with NEXUS? I do remember the CBSA agent mentionning that I would have to go in-person to update my passport information but the NEXUS website now says that updates can be done through the TTP portal and "that NEXUS members are not required to report to an Enrolment Centre to update or change their passport information with the CBSA".

If I can avoid a trip to the airport just to update my NEXUS/passport data, that would be great, but I want to make sure the information posted online is correct!
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 8:55 am
  #10840  
 
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I would suggest to give them a call first, it may save you a trip. I believe that the general consensus here in regards to passport information update is to do online update first and follow up with a visit to NEXUS enrollment centre as apparently the online update does not propagate to CBSA systems.

You may be able to do it via phone call as per post 10229 here - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trus...l#post27776191

I did the passport info update in December 2017 in person at YYZ NEXUS office (after updating same info online first) and based on comments from both agents, CBSA did not see the new info while CBP did see it.

Last edited by Iceland; Jan 10, 2018 at 8:56 am Reason: typo
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 10:49 am
  #10841  
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Originally Posted by jasdou
Does anyone have recent experience with passport renewal and updating the information with NEXUS? I do remember the CBSA agent mentionning that I would have to go in-person to update my passport information but the NEXUS website now says that updates can be done through the TTP portal and "that NEXUS members are not required to report to an Enrolment Centre to update or change their passport information with the CBSA".

If I can avoid a trip to the airport just to update my NEXUS/passport data, that would be great, but I want to make sure the information posted online is correct!
CBSA website has indicated NO visit required for updates to passport (changes to due to expiry not changes to citizenship) for several years. An online change would suffice. My prior passport expired early Dec 2017 and I updated in TTP in early Nov 2017 with new passport; have been using NEXUS three times ever since old passport expiry without any issues. I've even crossed land border where I interacted with CBSA agent. No mention of NEXUS record containing the old passport.

My first hand experience confirms you don't need to update passport (assuming update is merely to passport# and expiry date) in person; only an update online is necessary.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 3:43 pm
  #10842  
 
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Originally Posted by pa3lsvt
I have always assumed it had to do with InfoSec, since the iris scan is NEXUS-only and the initial scanning (creation) and kiosk use (access) of the iris scan data only occurs in Canada. The data may be held in a system that is isolated from extra-national (to Canada) access. Even though some of the NEXUS program data is shared with CBP, the iris scan data appears to be Canada-only.

Interestingly, I had my interview at Whirlpool (Niagara), where the interview occurs on the US side of the bridge. The interview involved CBSA followed by CBP and fingerprinting for GE. I was then sent to the office on the Canadian side for my NEXUS iris scan. That setup tells me the putting iris scan on Canadian soil was intentional, since the offices are literally 300 yards from each other.
Other than the Seattle location, are there any locations that aren't essentially on the border or on Canadian soil? If the office is on the border, there should be a CBSA checkpoint on Canadian soil that could have an iris scanner if needed. (Interestingly, when I did my interview, I actually did the US side at the CBP office/checkpoint, then was instructed to drive to the CBSA checkpoint on the other side of the border to finish there.)
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 5:31 pm
  #10843  
 
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Originally Posted by jebr
Other than the Seattle location, are there any locations that aren't essentially on the border or on Canadian soil? If the office is on the border, there should be a CBSA checkpoint on Canadian soil that could have an iris scanner if needed. (Interestingly, when I did my interview, I actually did the US side at the CBP office/checkpoint, then was instructed to drive to the CBSA checkpoint on the other side of the border to finish there.)
Seattle is the only one but they are so booked up, you are better off traveling to Vancouver and getting it over with.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 6:32 pm
  #10844  
 
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I recently renewed my passport information on line and had crossed the border multiple times with no problem. For some reason I could not enter the information for my renewed drivers license. Because I live so close to the B.C./Washington state border I made a trip to the Birch Bay Village Nexus office mainly to make sure all other information was o.k. for international travel. The only thing they were interested in was updating my drivers license but they couldn't tell me about my iris scan. The Canadian office is about 5 minutes away right at the Truck crossing so made a trip there and all was o.k. Very few people at the Birch Bay location just off of I-5 and no one at the iris scan location. I know, I am paranoid but wanted to make sure I wouldn't have to go through a secondary inspection.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 6:53 pm
  #10845  
 
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Originally Posted by seawolf
CBSA website has indicated NO visit required for updates to passport (changes to due to expiry not changes to citizenship) for several years. An online change would suffice.
This info card, which says passport updates must be done in person, was given to me by a CBSA officer at the Vancouver urban enrollment centre five months ago. Curiously, it also gives a fax number for document updates.

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