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Jade_BR Jun 10, 2013 11:35 am

Thank you!! I wrote to the ombudsman already, and left a voicemail at the enrollment center at Dulles airport (no one has called back yet). The issue is that there is no paperwork involved. No proof. My husband paid the fine in cash and neither of us can remember if we had to sign anything. I do recall filling out the customs form because he was asleep - therefore, it is in my name. Other than that, I have no clue what kind of paperwork was filed by the customs agent, and what it said.

mgcsinc Jun 10, 2013 11:41 am

You should always be very careful about just paying fines because it seems easier or cheaper. This goes for everything on down to a simple speeding ticket. Many people don't realize that such a payment often involves admitting that you're guilty of a crime, which can come back and really bite you later on.

Jade_BR Jun 10, 2013 11:46 am


Originally Posted by mgcsinc (Post 20897332)
You should always be very careful about just paying fines because it seems easier or cheaper. This goes for everything on down to a simple speeding ticket. Many people don't realize that such a payment often involves admitting that you're guilty of a crime, which can come back and really bite you later on.

That's an interesting perspective. I never stopped to think about what would happen if my husband had refused to pay. Quite frankly since it was his luggage, his stupid lunch meat, and his money, I was mostly annoyed because of the delay. Could he have refused to pay? Do they arrest people for lunch meat? :)

dunkie26 Jun 17, 2013 1:02 pm

sry for lack of follow-up. Not been on the site for a while. I have finally (after burying my head in the sand for almost a year), started the procedure with the Ombudsman.

One other item that may have caused this was that I had changed jobs at one point. Perhaps they did a background check at some point after the fact and my job addresses / names did not match my original application. Still an unknown. Will revert back later.

flyingpolarbear Jun 17, 2013 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by dunkie26 (Post 20938853)
One other item that may have caused this was that I had changed jobs at one point. Perhaps they did a background check at some point after the fact and my job addresses / names did not match my original application. Still an unknown. Will revert back later.

I am also quite curious of what you find out, because my membership was also mysteriously revoked, and I also had a change of address of my employment since the original application. In my case I am with the same company but the physical address changed (facility was shut down and moved to another city). I couldn't figure out how to update the address online. One would think that GE would tell us if the revocation was because of such a simple paperwork reason. Or if it's not the address thing, they must know something about me that I don't know about me.

dunkie26 Jun 17, 2013 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by flyingpolarbear (Post 20939047)
.... Or if it's not the address thing, they must know something about me that I don't know about me.

I feel exactly the same. I know that I am clean, in all areas I can possibly think of, yet somewhere, something is disconnected. Maybe something to do with my extensive global travel, address change, some algorithm of risk, who knows, but I intend to get to the bottom of this, possibly get a lawyer.

GUWonder Jun 17, 2013 3:51 pm

One of the reasons that DHS/CBP is looking to bring in private contractors to get further involved in this "trusted traveler" nonsense: additional background checks/background check backlogs.

rubesl Jun 18, 2013 6:15 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 20939938)
One of the reasons that DHS/CBP is looking to bring in private contractors to get further involved in this "trusted traveler" nonsense: additional background checks/background check backlogs.

Along those lines, I heard Edward Snowden was going to be doing GE interviews at HKG!

GUWonder Jun 18, 2013 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by rubesl (Post 20942866)
Along those lines, I heard Edward Snowden was going to be doing GE interviews at HKG!

:D

If only he actually knew and released more than was already shared here. Hopefully he got a lot of frequent flyer miles too.

Dubai Stu Jun 19, 2013 5:09 am

I recently spent a few weeks at Point Roberts, Washington. Point Roberts is a US exclave in the middle of British Columbia. To get there from the mainland US, you have to drive for close to an hour through Canada. I learned when I was there that US CBP had recently starting giving this group some flexibility on Nexus applications. Some minor customs violations (e.g. old non-commercial agriculture violations) were being overlooked. Additionally, old US drunk drivings with the appropriate Canadian waivers were getting the ok in some situations. Apparently residents in Lake in the Woods, MN and Campobello Island, NB were also getting this treatment. If this is true, this may be a slight crack in the door.

Townshend Sep 26, 2013 4:58 am


Originally Posted by flyingpolarbear (Post 20785286)
That was the original reason for my post, to reduce my own speculation by learning from other people's experience navigating the system. This is a unique process and I am trying to understand better how the review process works. The strange position I found myself in was staring at a blank sheet of paper not knowing what to speculate about (so I could write something to the Ombudsman). I wrote a letter anyway.

According to an article, between 2002 and 2009, 6,534 NEXUS memberships were revoked, and another article says that Sentri revokes about 2,000 cards per year. GOES is in the same family with these programs, and I figure has a similar rate. So I'm probably asking a common question on behalf of a lot of people. Maybe they can update the GOES FAQ to provide some guidance on what information the Ombudsman is looking for when the applicant has no clue of the specific reason they are not eligible anymore.

Did you end up writing? If so what was the outcome?

flyingpolarbear Sep 26, 2013 10:29 am


Originally Posted by Townshend (Post 21507591)
Did you end up writing? If so what was the outcome?

I wrote to the Ombudsman back in May. In October it will be 5 months, no response.

I remember the words of one of the officers at the airport "you're not the only one."

I had almost forgotten about it and concluded I got caught up in some error from a program experiencing its growing quirks.

Townshend Sep 27, 2013 10:06 am

I was just revoked for GE as well. Here's my story:

Applied and received GE last year. In 2010 I was arrested and given supervision for DUI (I do not have a conviction). CBP was fully aware of this and admitted me after I supplied official court documentation showing the judgement.

Applied for NEXUS a few months ago and got an interview. Towards the end a CBP officer asked for additional documentation which I provided (same documentation I gave during the GE process). Never the less, my NEXUS was denied and subsequently GE was revoked.

Anyone have a similar experience? Tips/suggestions?

rwmiller56 Sep 27, 2013 11:13 am

"Does not meet program strict standards for membership."

The same nebulous reason they give everyone who is denied or revoked. If you try to find out the exact reason why, they will probably tell you that they cannot release information obtained from 3rd parties, i.e. background checks. That is what happened to me.
Good luck....

rwmiller56 Sep 27, 2013 11:21 am


Originally Posted by flyingpolarbear (Post 21509109)
I wrote to the Ombudsman back in May. In October it will be 5 months, no response.

I remember the words of one of the officers at the airport "you're not the only one."

I had almost forgotten about it and concluded I got caught up in some error from a program experiencing its growing quirks.

When you finally do get your reply, it will probably just reiterate that you "do not meet the strict program requirements", and that they do not disclose information obtained from 3rd parties, i.e. background checks. That was my experience.
Good luck....


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