Why did I get the dreaded SSSS despite my GE/Pre✓/Nexus status? [merged threads]
#421
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Same to me, not my wife or child 3 years years ago. I was carrying my child with me and gave backpack to my wife. couple of security check agents shouted I got SSSS but they didn't bother me thankfully and didn't stop me.
My wife unfortunately got her first ever SSSS on her return trip from YYZ on UA flight and she was with our minor child. I applied redress for her anyway cos it is ugly to get SSSS when you have a minor autistic child with you at airports. I wish Redress STOPS this SSSS thing but unfortunately it doesn't help much!
My wife unfortunately got her first ever SSSS on her return trip from YYZ on UA flight and she was with our minor child. I applied redress for her anyway cos it is ugly to get SSSS when you have a minor autistic child with you at airports. I wish Redress STOPS this SSSS thing but unfortunately it doesn't help much!
#422
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I have GE and on my return Thanksgiving trip from CUN couldn't get my boarding pass online on AA (but I was able to check-in). Got SSSS'ed. They take it very seriously there. Took over 5 minutes of searching and swiping which completely negated my group 1 boarding number. I also didn't get Pre-Check on my MIA connecting ticket
#423
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The answer to not getting pre on your conencting flight BP is to go to an AA desk / kiosk at MIA and reprint it and that usually 'restores' it.
#424
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Have GE/TSA, and I've never gotten SSSS on domestic flights. But, I do get them occasionally when returning from abroad from, say, Europe or SE Asia on both US and foreign carriers. They both assure me it's a directive (I've been selected) from US Customs/Immigration.
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
#425
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Have GE/TSA, and I've never gotten SSSS on domestic flights. But, I do get them occasionally when returning from abroad from, say, Europe or SE Asia on both US and foreign carriers. They both assure me it's a directive (I've been selected) from US Customs/Immigration.
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
#426
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Have GE/TSA, and I've never gotten SSSS on domestic flights. But, I do get them occasionally when returning from abroad from, say, Europe or SE Asia on both US and foreign carriers. They both assure me it's a directive (I've been selected) from US Customs/Immigration.
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
While this might just be selection bias -- I personally doubt the selection criteria is truly "random" though. My SSSS rate is roughly 60% ex-Europe and maybe in the 20% range ex-Asia. I guess I fit some kind of profile?
#427
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One way ticket, ok, I get it. Flying a foreign Airline for the first time, sure. Leaving a borderline hostile nation, perhaps. But, RT to Paris? You've got to be kidding.
If I felt this was carrier driven by, say, AA, I'd never fly them again on general principle if they played any part on sticking me in that SSSS list.
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#429
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Received one here on an AA RT SFO/CDG, and assumed it was because of their security contractor. Only reason I can imagine it'd be from US customs is if they'd wanted to ensure I wasn't smuggling? If that's the case, why not just get me with the "X" in SFO and do it right?
One way ticket, ok, I get it. Flying a foreign Airline for the first time, sure. Leaving a borderline hostile nation, perhaps. But, RT to Paris? You've got to be kidding.
One way ticket, ok, I get it. Flying a foreign Airline for the first time, sure. Leaving a borderline hostile nation, perhaps. But, RT to Paris? You've got to be kidding.
#430
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Have GE/TSA, and I've never gotten SSSS on domestic flights. But, I do get them occasionally when returning from abroad from, say, Europe or SE Asia on both US and foreign carriers. They both assure me it's a directive (I've been selected) from US Customs/Immigration.
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
Anyone know if it's indeed I've been selected by US Immigration or from the carriers' or their securities contractor?
I have had SSSS hits on domestic connecting flights coming off an international flight that had an SSSS hit. Sometimes the airline reps can reissue the boarding pass in such a way as to get rid of the SSSS hit, but not all of them are able and/or willing to do so. And an attempt to reprint out the boarding pass at the US gateway after the SSSS-hit international flight doesn’t always work .... at least not without manual intervention.
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#431
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Folks,
It is time for the periodic reminder that the Trusted Travelers forum is informational.
Members come here in search of practical information and advice about applying for and using the various Trusted Travelers programs.
Please limit your postings in this thread to sharing experiences of trusted travelers receiving the SSSS designation on their boarding passes and offering advice on how to deal with such situations or minimize their occurrences.
Rants, opinion and commentary about SSSS designations belong in the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum where we have a thread discussing SSSS on boarding passes:
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It is time for the periodic reminder that the Trusted Travelers forum is informational.
Members come here in search of practical information and advice about applying for and using the various Trusted Travelers programs.
Please limit your postings in this thread to sharing experiences of trusted travelers receiving the SSSS designation on their boarding passes and offering advice on how to deal with such situations or minimize their occurrences.
Rants, opinion and commentary about SSSS designations belong in the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum where we have a thread discussing SSSS on boarding passes:
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#433
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Suspected I had the dreaded SSSS when we couldn’t do OLCI for our NRT-LAX flight today on SQ.
Sure enough discovered at airport check in that I had it printed on my boarding pass (but not my husband) Thankfully it was no more than a minor inconvenience.
Data points: we were flying FC on reward tickets. I have GE. I suspect it was random- perhaps triggered by the fact that our trip was booked as two one-way flights. I also changed our return date a week before we flew to Japan.
We had no issues LAX to NRT 2 weeks ago.
Sure enough discovered at airport check in that I had it printed on my boarding pass (but not my husband) Thankfully it was no more than a minor inconvenience.
Data points: we were flying FC on reward tickets. I have GE. I suspect it was random- perhaps triggered by the fact that our trip was booked as two one-way flights. I also changed our return date a week before we flew to Japan.
We had no issues LAX to NRT 2 weeks ago.
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I think it's more likely a flaw in their system. Note that his flights are originating outside the US.
My wife is very prone to getting SSSSed on foreign-origin flights (although generally at an airport where SSSS means nothing!) However, on domestic-origin flights she is about 100% on getting pre-check. If there really was something evil tied to her name (very unlikely, her name likely is unique in the world) she wouldn't be getting pre-check.
My wife is very prone to getting SSSSed on foreign-origin flights (although generally at an airport where SSSS means nothing!) However, on domestic-origin flights she is about 100% on getting pre-check. If there really was something evil tied to her name (very unlikely, her name likely is unique in the world) she wouldn't be getting pre-check.
Wondering if there is perhaps a match with another person on the list, or just programming that flags one-way international flights?
Is there a way to get off the SSSS list? I know there are procedures for contesting the "no fly" and using FOIA for GE denial, but haven't read anything about SSSS. Everybody in my family has had GE and precheck for years.
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#435
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We have the same problem! Every time we fly back from Mexico, Mrs. B receives an SSSS on her BP. This does not happen to anyone else in the family, and it does not matter if we fly back to SFO or LAX, she always gets the SSSS. She has taken numerous domestic and international flights on UA, AA, WN, DL with precheck and no problems. It's very strange but I do not believe it is random because it happens every time on a one-way ticket from Mexico. She believes this began after she flew TLV-SFO, we all know the Middle East can generate SSSS.
Wondering if there is perhaps a match with another person on the list, or just programming that flags one-way international flights?
Is there a way to get off the SSSS list? I know there are procedures for contesting the "no fly" and using FOIA for GE denial, but haven't read anything about SSSS. Everybody in my family has had GE and precheck for years.
Wondering if there is perhaps a match with another person on the list, or just programming that flags one-way international flights?
Is there a way to get off the SSSS list? I know there are procedures for contesting the "no fly" and using FOIA for GE denial, but haven't read anything about SSSS. Everybody in my family has had GE and precheck for years.