Petition for full trip reports before starting threads
Jul 10, 2013 | 11:11 am
#106
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil
Posts: 312
Agree with no pre-trip reports. At least the 1st instalment should be posted.
Jul 10, 2013 | 11:42 am
#107
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I'd only ask that we don't have lots of those 'reserved' posts. If I subscribe to a thread it doesn't alert me when you go in and update it from reserved. Therefore I have to keep oing into the thread to see if it's been updated which is frustrating when it isn't updated for weeks on end.
Jul 10, 2013 | 12:01 pm
#108
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Planet Earth(most days)
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In a way, I am surprised by this thread, and in some ways, I am not.
I can bet the lot of you don't read past the first or second page of the forum. So what difference does it make if they finish it or not?
Quite honestly, I would suspect that almost everyone out there thinking about posting a trip report here would like to get some sort of feelers out there concerning how well they are writing a thread. As opposed to working hard on it, posting it in full, and then getting absolutely no attention or some negative feed back.
You are going to have your superstars like Moomba, Seat 2A, your drunk uncle Eightblack, and your snide cousin Ung1 complaining once again how they felt gypped because there was only four lovely SQ ladies fanning them with palm frond instead of their normal 8, or how their soup was too hot and the F/A didn't come over and blow on the soup to cool it off.
I jest, but we have some great writers on this board, and I would hate to see someone who could be up there among the greats get discouraged because of forming rules because they don't want to see a thread pop up with no continuation. After a week, those threads drop out of site, and we avert our focus onto bigger and better things. As someone said, they have lives outside of this little world of ours.
I vote no.
I can bet the lot of you don't read past the first or second page of the forum. So what difference does it make if they finish it or not?
Quite honestly, I would suspect that almost everyone out there thinking about posting a trip report here would like to get some sort of feelers out there concerning how well they are writing a thread. As opposed to working hard on it, posting it in full, and then getting absolutely no attention or some negative feed back.
You are going to have your superstars like Moomba, Seat 2A, your drunk uncle Eightblack, and your snide cousin Ung1 complaining once again how they felt gypped because there was only four lovely SQ ladies fanning them with palm frond instead of their normal 8, or how their soup was too hot and the F/A didn't come over and blow on the soup to cool it off.
I jest, but we have some great writers on this board, and I would hate to see someone who could be up there among the greats get discouraged because of forming rules because they don't want to see a thread pop up with no continuation. After a week, those threads drop out of site, and we avert our focus onto bigger and better things. As someone said, they have lives outside of this little world of ours.
I vote no.
Jul 10, 2013 | 12:50 pm
#109
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
Programs: FT
Posts: 7,281
given how BBB pulled his report because of those that could not wait, i would not support anything that would desuade those from doing TR's, done or not done.
Jul 10, 2013 | 12:51 pm
#110
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
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I'd only ask that we don't have lots of those 'reserved' posts. If I subscribe to a thread it doesn't alert me when you go in and update it from reserved. Therefore I have to keep oing into the thread to see if it's been updated which is frustrating when it isn't updated for weeks on end.
Jul 10, 2013 | 1:39 pm
#111
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Did my post deserve a reply like that? Do you talk to people like that?
Whilst i certainly don't owe you an explanation but as maybe the subtly of my point was lost on you. I'll try to explain my reasoning to you.
Firstly, I was making no demands for reform, I was merely saying that reserved posts don't help people who are keen to follow interesting trip reports via subscription updates.
Further, if you make it hard for me to read your reports I might give up and won't bother. Not just me, perhaps others. Most people who write these reports presumably want people to read those reports and enjoy it. If they don't care about the person reading it, fair enough, but why waste your time spending hours writing reports people will never read?
I have never criticised anyone for being slow on writing a report, but when half way through for whatever reason someone deletes their report I won't be encouraged to read their future reports.
Whilst i certainly don't owe you an explanation but as maybe the subtly of my point was lost on you. I'll try to explain my reasoning to you.
Firstly, I was making no demands for reform, I was merely saying that reserved posts don't help people who are keen to follow interesting trip reports via subscription updates.
Further, if you make it hard for me to read your reports I might give up and won't bother. Not just me, perhaps others. Most people who write these reports presumably want people to read those reports and enjoy it. If they don't care about the person reading it, fair enough, but why waste your time spending hours writing reports people will never read?
I have never criticised anyone for being slow on writing a report, but when half way through for whatever reason someone deletes their report I won't be encouraged to read their future reports.
Jul 10, 2013 | 2:04 pm
#112
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 1,782
Even an eighblack post about trip reports is great. I guess you know the squirrel is a male one?
I will readily admit that I am all over the place when it comes to trip reports. I am merely a hack, and dont have the patience or skill of the resident experts such as Seat 2A, matthandy or SFO777.
There's a thing called life that gets in the way. Kids, spouses, dogs, cats, in-laws and parents. And then work.
When I write a TR, I do it on the fly. I dont set the alarm, wake up, have a wash and then sit down at the desk in my underwear and look longingly through the bedroom window at a squirrel enjoying the morning sunshine, playing with his nuts.
A post might take me 30-mins. Or a couple of hours. Just depends what happens. And if I think there's nothing worth writing about, I just dont write it. Take the Japan Do this year. I thought it was a good idea to start off a TR. Then it wasnt. Was more important to me to have a good time - and to be honest, while it was a great event, it was pretty uneventful.
I'd hate to see writers be stifled on this forum with a whole bunch of rules. I have enough aggravation in my life without adding any more...
As an aside, I had to go London a few weeks ago for work. Probably the funniest trip home on AA in J I have had (LHR to MIA) Sat beside a mad Columbian called Carlos. His son Carlos Jnr was down the back. It still makes me smile as I remember the experience. Or what I can remember of it.
But the rest of trip was as boring as blazes. I wont write TR's anymore unless I have finished them and to me, they need to be interesting. I'm also not a fan of reserving places (post holders) for future updates.
I have no idea how I got to this thread. I thought I was looking at soft porn and then all of a sudden, I ended up here...
There's a thing called life that gets in the way. Kids, spouses, dogs, cats, in-laws and parents. And then work.
When I write a TR, I do it on the fly. I dont set the alarm, wake up, have a wash and then sit down at the desk in my underwear and look longingly through the bedroom window at a squirrel enjoying the morning sunshine, playing with his nuts.
A post might take me 30-mins. Or a couple of hours. Just depends what happens. And if I think there's nothing worth writing about, I just dont write it. Take the Japan Do this year. I thought it was a good idea to start off a TR. Then it wasnt. Was more important to me to have a good time - and to be honest, while it was a great event, it was pretty uneventful.
I'd hate to see writers be stifled on this forum with a whole bunch of rules. I have enough aggravation in my life without adding any more...
As an aside, I had to go London a few weeks ago for work. Probably the funniest trip home on AA in J I have had (LHR to MIA) Sat beside a mad Columbian called Carlos. His son Carlos Jnr was down the back. It still makes me smile as I remember the experience. Or what I can remember of it.
But the rest of trip was as boring as blazes. I wont write TR's anymore unless I have finished them and to me, they need to be interesting. I'm also not a fan of reserving places (post holders) for future updates.
I have no idea how I got to this thread. I thought I was looking at soft porn and then all of a sudden, I ended up here...
Jul 10, 2013 | 2:04 pm
#113
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You don't have to plough through pages, I subscribe to the trip reports I'm interested in reading, whenever they're added to it it appears on my home page
Jul 10, 2013 | 2:08 pm
#114
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 1,782
Could FT make a sub-forum for complete reports. That way, the OP can either post directly to that one if they are posting a complete report or it could be moved by a mod into that sub-forum once it was complete. I'm reading Tall Travel's trip to Dubai/Bali etc. and if he never finishes it would be ok. Sad that posters delete their posts.
Jul 10, 2013 | 2:34 pm
#115
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Brighton England
Programs: AA Plat, various hotels
Posts: 1,220
It was proposed upthread that this thread should be closed.
I suggest that it now be closed, the more I read, the less likely I am to post another report and if other feel the same ( and clearly BBB does) then there wont be a trip reports section worth reading.
I suggest that it now be closed, the more I read, the less likely I am to post another report and if other feel the same ( and clearly BBB does) then there wont be a trip reports section worth reading.
Jul 10, 2013 | 3:12 pm
#116
Join Date: Mar 2007
Programs: UA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,578
Agreed. Some of the responses (subsequently deleted by mods) I got after posting the intro page of my already completed trip really discouraged me from continuing to post.
Jul 10, 2013 | 4:48 pm
#117
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kent, UK
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Guys, a polite request to stay civil and on-topic please.
As a reminder, if you see any post on FT (this forum or others) that you find offensive, inappropriate or suspect has broken the posting rules of FT, please use the 'Report Bad Post' button
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Back on topic...
Moomba and I are keen to hear member's feedback regarding the forum, however, please bear in mind that this forum is about celebrating travel and encouraging creativity. It's not about putting in place a series of stringent rules that would discourage that.
This is certainly disappointing to hear Gatwick Alan, however we are keen to hear everyone's feedback, so please continue to post your thoughts and opinions.
As a reminder, if you see any post on FT (this forum or others) that you find offensive, inappropriate or suspect has broken the posting rules of FT, please use the 'Report Bad Post' button
to the left of each post. This will alert the moderators, they will review the post and then appropriate action can be taken.Back on topic...
Moomba and I are keen to hear member's feedback regarding the forum, however, please bear in mind that this forum is about celebrating travel and encouraging creativity. It's not about putting in place a series of stringent rules that would discourage that.
This is certainly disappointing to hear Gatwick Alan, however we are keen to hear everyone's feedback, so please continue to post your thoughts and opinions.
Jul 10, 2013 | 7:44 pm
#118
Join Date: Jan 2008
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I think nixing "Reserved" type posts is a good idea, for 2 reasons:
1) Subscribed users don't get notices when the new parts are up
2) If a writer finishes their TR, there is a glut of pictures on one page and it can make them difficult to load. In addition, the following comments don't make sense sometimes if they came after part 4 was put up but before part 5. I'd rather read the TR and comments in a natural order.
1) Subscribed users don't get notices when the new parts are up
2) If a writer finishes their TR, there is a glut of pictures on one page and it can make them difficult to load. In addition, the following comments don't make sense sometimes if they came after part 4 was put up but before part 5. I'd rather read the TR and comments in a natural order.
Jul 10, 2013 | 8:42 pm
#119
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I've written a couple of trip reports now and I find them a lot of work. Fun, but a lot of work. I can't speak for other authors - maybe it's just me.
So if the rule was either a complete trip report or nothing, I would never get around to it. I start the trip report as soon as possible after returning and try to write up one leg per day. But the real world often gets in the way.
Is it possible for authors to rename a thread? If so it could start with the usual inviting title and once complete change the title by adding the word COMPLETE or something similar to the end of the title.
Anything too difficult will just discourage new content and I think we all want to see lots of trip reports.
So if the rule was either a complete trip report or nothing, I would never get around to it. I start the trip report as soon as possible after returning and try to write up one leg per day. But the real world often gets in the way.
Is it possible for authors to rename a thread? If so it could start with the usual inviting title and once complete change the title by adding the word COMPLETE or something similar to the end of the title.
Anything too difficult will just discourage new content and I think we all want to see lots of trip reports.
Jul 10, 2013 | 9:10 pm
#120
Join Date: Jul 2008
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It's not possible for the author to change the title, however, moderators can. You can send us a PM or 'Report Bad Post' and we can change it for you.