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Old Sep 12, 2012, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by susiesan
We will be going to Indonesia next year and will probably use CX 881 to HK over the ocean. With the layout of the new business class, should a couple traveling together get seats in the middle? It looks like if you put the divider down, if it goes down, you can actually talk to each other.
I really enjoyed The Pavilion Hotel as well! Unfortunately, I didn't get to try the pool as I just ran out of time. Maybe next time

If you are traveling as a couple, I would definitely go for the middle seats. I'm actually not sure if there is a full divider that can go up and down (I don't think there is), but if you are sitting next to a stranger, you could always open the little door to the headphone cubby and it will act as a (very) small divider. But traveling as a couple, you can definitely chat with one another during the meal or share food/drinks, etc. However, the seats are a bit far apart, so you may need to lean in a little... the seat can also move forward in the sitting position as well. Still, this is a much better option than taking the window seats, and way better than the old business seats!

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Very nice trip report - and the photos of Cambodia and The Killing Fields and the prison bought back memories. I went there about 18 months ago and while I have been to Cambodia many times for work, this short holiday was simply great (although somewhat depressing).

I'm glad the hotel resolved your unpleasant incident - at my age though, I have given up caring who sees me naked and if it had have happened to me, it would have been the staff member who would have been screaming at me to put clothes on

Keep up the excellent work. You write very well and the photos are a nice balance.
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very enjoyable reading - looking forward to the next installments
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glu: you talk about paying $5 to see KF...is USD a standard to use as currency while there for hotels, entrance fees, etc??? Or should I be exchanging USD in for Cambodian Riels??

Can I get by using USD in PP and SR? If so, which banks are available to get USD from?

Thank you.
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Thanks for an interesting report glu800.

I am looking to maybe go to Cambodia next year around the same time. What was the weather like when you were there?
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 1:35 pm
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Thanks eightblack for the kind words, I appreciate it Some of those places definitely aren't for the squeamish, and it can be a very heavy experience. But I like history a lot, so it was a good experience. LOL @ the hotel comment

Thanks Tartegnin!

dgoedken, everyone in Cambodia actually prefers USD. Almost everything there is listed in USD... and only the smallest purchases are usually done in Riels. You can definitely get by with just USD in both PP and SR. It was actually very convenient. I just brought enough with me for the week that I was there. I believe I saw a number of banks and ATMs in both cities, so you shouldn't have a problem withdrawing money... though watch out for the fees.

Thanks Moomba! I went in early April, which is the hottest month of the year. It was around 90-95 degrees every day I was there, though I actually felt like the humidity wasn't terrible. Vietnam was a lot worse if you've been. Also, April sort of marks the end of the dry season and beginning of the wet season. There was almost no rain when I was there, but unfortunately, the rivers were also very dry. I wanted to see the flooded mangrove forest in the Kompong Phluk floating village near Siem Reap, but the water level was too low. You'll see how low the water was when I post pictures in the next installment... the floating village wasn't really floating... it was mostly on stilts haha.
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Cambodia April 2012 - Exploring Angkor Archaeological Park And Siem Reap

As with most people, when I first started doing research for this trip, I didn't realize just how many temples there actually were in the area surrounding Siem Reap. I only knew of Angkor Wat, of course, and a couple of other famous sites like Ta Prohm and Bayon, and thought that was pretty much all there was to see. Boy was I wrong. There are literally hundreds of ruins within an area stretching out hundreds of miles from Angkor Wat, all in varying stages of decay or restoration.

Because I was traveling solo, I was a little more wary of exploring the entire Angkor Archaeological Park on my own, so I decided to hire a personal guide for the three full days that I would be there. Luckily, my housemate had been to Cambodia years earlier and recommended his guide, Nicky (or Yem in Khmer). Email correspondence setting up the itinerary was quick and easy, and I thought the $185 rate (excluding entrance fees) he charged was reasonable enough. He also seemed fairly proficient in English, which was very important since I tend ask a lot of questions.

Typically, almost all visitors to Angkor Archaeological Park will do the Little Circuit, which includes the most famous sites like Angkor Thom, Ta Keo, Ta Prohm, and of course, Angkor Wat. For those with more time, the Big Circuit encompasses temples that are a little more obscure and farther away. However, some of these temples are definitely worth a visit, especially because they don't attract the massive crowds seen on the Little Circuit. And for those who are a bit more adventurous, the outlying temples 20-50 miles beyond the immediate Angkor area boasts some of the most unique and stunning ruins, in my opinion.

I'll go ahead and list the temples/sites I visited on each of the three days, and then describe in detail some of the more interesting events along the way.

Day 1: Angkor Thom + Big Circuit + Banteay Srey
- Angkor Thom (Bayon, Baphuon, Phimeanakas, Terrace of the Elephants, Terrace of the Leper King)
- Preah Khan
- Ta Som
- Banteay Srey (outlying temple 23 miles north of Angkor area)
- East Mebon
- Pre Rup

Day 2: Beng Mealea + Kompong Phluk
- Beng Mealea (outlying temple 45 miles east of Siem Reap)
- Kompong Phluk (floating village)

Day 3: Angkor Wat + Little Circuit
- Angkor Wat (sunrise and afternoon)
- Ta Prohm
- Ta Nei
- Ta Keo
- Banteay Kdei

The first day actually turned out to be the longest and most strenuous, which, in hindsight, was probably a good plan. By the third day, I was pretty worn out by all the walking in the intense heat. The best advice I can give is to start the day as early as you can. Not only will you avoid some of the harshest daytime sunlight, but arriving at 6:00 or 7:00 am also affords you the opportunity to bypass the massive crowds of tourists that descend on the ruins later in the morning. Unfortunately, we arrived a little late at Angkor Thom on the first day, and Bayon was absolutely packed to the brim. It was even difficult to walk along the pathways at times because of the congestion. Still, it was quite amazing to see the famous stone faces that adorn just about every facet of the temple.


Bayon





We visited the other famous sites within the ancient city of Angkor Thom, and finished off the morning hours exploring Preah Khan and Ta Som, both along the Big Circuit route. Afterwards, we headed out to Banteay Srey, approximately 23 miles north of the Angkor area. Banteay Srey is actually a very small temple built primarily from red sandstone and dedicated to the Hindu god Shiva. It is famous for its elaborate decorative wall carvings, the intricacy of which struck me as simply astonishing. When viewing the expansive carvings, you can't help but wonder how many years or even decades it must have taken to complete. Finally, in the afternoon, we returned to the Big Circuit and visited two large temples, East Mebon and Pre Rup.


Baphuon


Banteay Srey




Banteay Srey wall carvings


Pre Rup

After the first day tour had ended, I requested to be dropped off near Pub Street in Siem Reap. While I really liked how beautiful and clean Siem Reap was, I wasn't a huge fan of this touristy area filled with bars and restaurants catering to tourists. Still, I looked around for a bit and visited the local market to pick up some souvenirs for family and friends.







The second day was spent away from the Angkor area. We started very early with a one-hour drive east of Siem Reap, reaching the farthest temple on our itinerary: Beng Mealea. Archaeologists theorize that this temple perhaps served as a precursor to Angkor Wat due to similarities in design. However, unlike Angkor Wat, it largely remains in a state of ruin, with no attempt at restoration by the government of Cambodia. The result is an absolutely surreal (and almost eerie) atmosphere of overgrown trees and vines swallowing up the walls and canopying the entire complex. Massive stone ceilings that have caved in on itself cover virtually every inch of the temple grounds, allowing visitors to literally rock-climb their way through the corridors and halls. A light fog permeated the central courtyard while I was there, further shrouding the already dark jungle-like setting and creating a scene that was straight out of a Hollywood movie.


Beng Mealea moat





The was by far my favorite temple, perhaps even more so than Angkor Wat. You really feel as if you are an explorer discovering a lost civilization. And best of all, if you get there early enough, you have the entire place to yourself. Recent improvements made to the roads have facilitated the arrival of larger buses, and after about two hours of climbing and clambering through the structure, I noticed that a number of tour groups started arriving. While it got a bit more crowded, the good thing is that these groups tend to stay on the guided wooden paths that only take you through a limited portion of the temple. If you really want to explore Beng Mealea, get off the path and start climbing! I believe this is the only major temple where you are still allowed to do so.







We had decided to visit the floating village on the same day since it was on the way back from Beng Mealea. Now, I had read plenty of negative reviews about visiting these places since they seem to exist for one purpose only: separating as much money as they possibly can from each and every tourist. The worst offender by far is a village known as Chong Kneas (take a look at the reviews on TripAdvisor). I specifically told Nicky that I did not want to go there despite his suggestion that we do so (I'm pretty sure drivers and guides get large commissions bringing tourists there).

Luckily, I did my research beforehand and was set on visiting Kompong Phluk instead. A bit more out of the way, Kompong Phluk has managed to retain some of its original character, and residents still seem to go about their daily lives despite having to cater to the large influx of tourists that now arrive on a daily basis. The bad news about my visit was that I was going during the end of the dry season, meaning water levels were at their lowest. It was astonishing to see just how low the water level was compared to the height of the houses, which were all built on wooden stilts. The good news, however, was that I was also going during the low tourist season... meaning that the tour groups and massive crowds were all thankfully absent.

There were only a few cars parked at the boat launch area just outside the village, and I saw a couple of tourists milling about. Since I was on my own, I decided to just hire an entire boat, which cost $25 (I'm pretty sure I was gouged a little bit, but didn't bother raising a fuss since I liked having the boat to myself). The boat driver was a young kid who claimed he was 16 when I asked, but I swear he looked about 13 at most.

We slowly made our way through the village, and at times, the water level was so low that it became difficult to navigate the crowded river (more like a creek at this point). However, it was amazing to see the villagers going about their daily lives, hardly paying any attention to me. Little kids were happily waiving though, which brought a smile to my face. The houses on both sides felt like skyscrapers, and I wondered aloud how they managed to build an entire village on stilts. After passing through, we arrived at a vast expanse of mangrove trees near the mouth of Tonle Sap Lake. During the wet season, the water level rises above the tree trunks, and you can take a smaller boat in for a serene ride through the flooded forest. I've read some spectacular reviews about this experience, and was really disappointed I wouldn't be able to see it for myself.


Kompong Phluk



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Cambodia April 2012 - Exploring Angkor Archaeological Park And Siem Reap - Continued


Mangrove forest in the dry season

Finally, we arrived at Tonle Sap Lake. It's hard to describe the feeling of sitting at the bow of the small boat, staring out at the massive expanse of water ahead of me, dotted with small floating houses. Needless to say, it was a very cool experience that I will never forget. We stopped at a floating restaurant, where I was the only patron. I ordered a drink out of courtesy and relaxed for a bit. Afterwards, we returned back to the village.


My boat driver/guide on Tonle Sap Lake



I thought that would be the end of the tour, but my young guide then asked if I wanted to get off the boat and visit the village. I was pretty stoked, since I didn't see the few other tour boats stopping at all. I had no idea what to expect, so I just followed him into the village, until we arrived at his house. He invited me up the ladder, and introduced me to his mom, brother, and sister-in-law. His brother and sister-in-law were busy making fishing nets while his mother was taking care of their baby girl. So there I sat, just watching them go about their business, hoping I wasn't intruding or being rude! I kept thinking to myself how cool was this? I chatted with my guide for a bit, asking about their daily lives and experiences, but soon realized I had already been gone for hours and my real guide, Nicky, was still waiting in his car at the launch area! So we decided to return to the boat and slowly made our way back.


Kompong Phluk village in the dry season





My visit to Kompong Phluk was definitely a highlight of this trip to Cambodia. I have no idea if the experience is identical during the high season, but I have my doubts. Even though I missed out on the flooded mangrove forest, I had the benefit of seeing the village when it wasn't bombarded with tourists, which I really appreciated. My guide was extremely friendly, and I got the unique opportunity to go into the village and even visit his house. It was very cool indeed. We returned to Siem Reap by early afternoon, but I was quite exhausted and decided to head directly back to the hotel.

The third day started around 4:45 am, when we left in total darkness to be the first at Angkor Wat for the sunrise. Maybe I was a little too eager, since we were literally the first ones there. Even the security guards were questioning us under flashlights when we arrived at the entrance (I think my tour guide probably told them in Khmer that I was crazy). As time passed and the sky brightened, the crowds around us also grew until it looked somewhat like a rock concert with hundreds of people simultaneously snapping photos of the famous silhouette under the beautiful sunrise.





Going into Angkor Wat at this time was perfect since most tourists get up for the sunrise, then head back to their hotels for breakfast, and return later in the morning. This meant there were very few people inside the actual complex. We explored for a bit, and continued on to the Little Circuit, hitting up Ta Prohm (made famous by Angelina Jolie and Tomb Raider) first to avoid the crowds. There was a lot of restoration work in progress, and various parts of the temple were blocked off. Luckily, the famous sites from the movie were all still open to visitors.








"Tomb Raider" tree at Ta Prohm


Hidden smile





Later, we explored Ta Nei, a small temple off the main road rarely visited by the larger tour groups. We then finished off with Ta Keo and Banteay Kdei. To be honest, despite all of these temples being entirely amazing on their own, after three day of non-stop touring, I was all templed out. Luckily, we had also finished seeing just about all the main sights within Angkor Archaeological Park, not to mention the two spectacular outlying temples, Banteay Srey and Beng Mealea. As a final goodbye, I decided to head back to Angkor Wat and spend some additional time walking around and taking pictures before returning to the hotel in the early afternoon.


Ta Nei


Ta Keo


Back to Angkor Wat





Angkor Archaeological Park definitely lived up to the hype, and I was at times amazed and inspired. I was also glad I got to experience some fairly unique activities that may not have been possible had I joined a large tour group. I have no doubt I will return someday... though I do hope that the temples and the local population can withstand the ever-increasing influx of tourists that hunger for a piece of this spectacular landmark.

One quick note regarding my guide, Nicky. Although I felt like he was generally pleasant and knowledgeable, towards the end of the tour, he became a bit lazy in terms of being an actual guide. For many of the temples, he would literally say, "Okay go take a look, I'll wait here"... and he would inevitably start playing with his cell phone. In addition, not only did he try to steer me to places I didn't want to go, like Chong Kneas or touristy restaurants where I knew he was getting a commission, he even got out of paying for his lunch by telling the waitress to give me the entire bill (is this normal practice?). I was a bit appalled, and decided to just skip lunch the next day. However, I must say he was very informative whenever I had any questions, and his English was excellent. Overall, I was satisfied with him as a guide, but I don't know if I would go out of my way to recommend him. If anyone is interested in contacting Nicky, send me an email and I will get you his information.
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Very nice. I almost died at Beng Mealea. Climbing on top of the temple can be a little hazardous. And if you do it wearing sandals it is REALLY hazardous. I just about slipped and fell off the top. Luckily my guide caught me just in time.

When I went we combined it with a trip up Phnom Kulen which I wholeheartedly recommend. There's a nice waterfall , some interesting carvings on the riverbed. And you can get a picnic lunch cooked on site. We had a roasted chicken that is served with these little cups of salt and pepper and local limes. You squeeze the limes in to the salt and pepper and dip the chicken in it. It was very good. Mostly it was locals out for a day at the waterfall.
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Old Sep 24, 2012, 3:51 pm
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You've single handedly inspired me to visit Cambodia with this amazing trip report... Thank you! I never knew there was so much to do there, and the amount of ruins look brilliant. Looking forward to any more installments!
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 11:13 am
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glennaa11 - Yeah, climbing around Beng Mealea can be VERY hazardous, especially if you don't have the right shoes. I would caution people to make sure you can physically handle it before attempting! Definitely not worth injuries or even death I wish I had more time to see Phnom Kulen and other places... there really is so much to do around that area, and there is never enough time Hope to head back there someday.

Farseer - thanks for the kind words! I've been really slow with these trip reports lately... busy with work and life The next few installments will be rather short though... there were some disappointing experiences unfortunately - especially with the Thai Airways Royal First Lounge in BKK.
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I'm with you 100% about Beng Mealea. Total Indiana Jones experience! And to top it off, we found a nest of huge spiders!
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 2:55 pm
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Very welcome
Don't blame you especially when you make them as in depth as this. But quality over frequency is best! Can't wait regardless
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 3:30 pm
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Great updates thanks. It looks a really lovely trip.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 4:46 am
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Thank you for this great report, it brings back nice memories to a trip to Phnom Peng and Angkor back in June 2001 and to Phnom Penh in January 2004.

I have encountered a nearly similar incident in a hotel in Berlin in 2006 and since this time I lock the door - although as German and someone whow loves to go to a Sauna I might have a slightly different point of view to such a situation (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauna for reference).
But this gets off topic


I am looking forward to read more about your trip ^
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