Dresscode on Commercial flights in First Class
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I don't know when the last time you went out to discotheque's was, but enforcement of a "dress code" as you think of it is a thing of the past. Most of the "coolest" places now don't want people who look well dressed in the FT sense of the word, and they certainly don't require it. I see MUC as one of your locations...for example, go survey the crowd at any random night at the P1.
To give you a quick idea of more sophisticated places that enforce a silent "dress code":
Costes in Paris
Sheraton Diana Majestic in Milan
Hotel de Paris (except in August) and Jimmy'z in Monaco
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P1 has a relatively unsophisticated crowd. Too much Ed Hardy and FC Bayern.
To give you a quick idea of more sophisticated places that enforce a silent "dress code":
Costes in Paris
Sheraton Diana Majestic in Milan
Hotel de Paris (except in August) and Jimmy'z in Monaco
To give you a quick idea of more sophisticated places that enforce a silent "dress code":
Costes in Paris
Sheraton Diana Majestic in Milan
Hotel de Paris (except in August) and Jimmy'z in Monaco
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Nightclubs/discotheques are entertainment venues, not transportation, nor do they have any common carrier obligations, nor is there a risk of someone showing up with prepaid tickets and then having to deal with IDB because they're inadequately dressed. You're comparing apples and ball bearings.
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Nightclubs/discotheques are entertainment venues, not transportation, nor do they have any common carrier obligations, nor is there a risk of someone showing up with prepaid tickets and then having to deal with IDB because they're inadequately dressed. You're comparing apples and ball bearings.
Airlines are in the business of providing transportation. People don't say, "I want to fly Air France because it makes me feel like I'm part of something exclusive." They fly AF because of the price, the schedule, the non-stop route, the loyalty program, or some other tangible benefit.
I would also argue that the nightclub goer seeks a "shared" experience, and hence, the nattiness of the fellow guests may be an important component of that. I personally, have no desire to share anything with other people on an airplane, except maybe a little shared conversation.
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If I were riding First Class on a long-haul flight then I will wear my usual sweats, t-shirt, and sneakers. Of course I will have a sweater with me just in case it gets too cold.
If I were riding FC on a domestic flight then I would wear whatever I would wear when I'm in the back as well.
If I were riding FC on a domestic flight then I would wear whatever I would wear when I'm in the back as well.
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Obviously said in jest, but I wonder whether anyone can actually think of ways in which the two are similar? It might be more amusing than discussing whether there is a dress code in F (there isn't).
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Given his comments in this topic, I am not so sure that was meant in jest. I know I can't enjoy my suite at a nice hotel just knowing there are riff-raff in the lobby not dressed in suits.
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Here is an innovative way of style control in hotels: http://www.sohohouseberlin.com/membership/application/
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Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
The German language (-> Sigmund Freud / Angst / ber-Ich / ...) has a word for the phenomenon which doesn't exist in English: "Schwellenangst".
Translates as "threshold anxiety" or "(Psych) fear of entering a place (fig)".
The German language (-> Sigmund Freud / Angst / ber-Ich / ...) has a word for the phenomenon which doesn't exist in English: "Schwellenangst".
Translates as "threshold anxiety" or "(Psych) fear of entering a place (fig)".
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Here is an innovative way of style control in hotels: http://www.sohohouseberlin.com/membership/application/
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Originally Posted by TrophyCollector
Aesthetic environmental pollution is similar to passive smoking.
Especially if you fly in F or stay in the best hotels.
Especially if you fly in F or stay in the best hotels.
my lungs and the pollutant. When someone chokes on my jeans and plaid
flannel shirt in first class, that's his or her choice.
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Nonetheless, this reminds me of the scene in Pretty Woman where the manager of the Beverly Hills Hotel gets his hackles up when Julia Roberts' character presents in the lobby in an outfit that leaves little to the imagination. Perhaps the hotel manager (played by Hector Elizondo) has a legitimate concern that the presence of a prostitute in the hotel will be offensive to the othe guests. He's, in part, in the business of selling "exclusivity."
I would expect few first class fliers--even those who pay for it--to rank "exclusivity" high on their list of reasons to fly up front.


