What do First Class pax look like?
Mar 6, 2008 | 3:31 pm
#91
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I tell you what, I definately don't look like FC "material". They way i dress sometimes amazes even me. I'm color blind and never match and beard half grown out, smell like cigarette smoke, eye's blood shot red from barely any sleep. Sometimes I feel like I don't belong up front 
Mar 7, 2008 | 4:43 am
#92
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I'm sure this is true in a lot of professions, but I'm in law school and I can assure you that a suit is often non-negotiable attire with the more traditional law firms. The firm I clerk for is more casual, but when my boss has an out-of-office meeting, he wears a suit.
A suit is also standard attire for court. Some judges explicitly state in their rules they require a suit (and often require a skirt or dress for women), while others rely more on custom and word of mouth to let it be known a suit is required.
If I were to show up to my Moot Court semi-finals next week not appropriately dressed in a skirt suit, pantyhose and dress shoes, I wouldn't be allowed to argue.
A suit is also standard attire for court. Some judges explicitly state in their rules they require a suit (and often require a skirt or dress for women), while others rely more on custom and word of mouth to let it be known a suit is required.
If I were to show up to my Moot Court semi-finals next week not appropriately dressed in a skirt suit, pantyhose and dress shoes, I wouldn't be allowed to argue.
Mar 7, 2008 | 10:47 am
#93
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In the US, there is no tradition or requirement for lawyers to wear the robe and wig as there is in other countries that are former British colonies. Judges often wear a black robe, though some prefer formal or conservative business wear.
The one exception is the Solicitor General - when the Solicitor General (or an assistant) argues a case before the Supreme Court of the United States, he or she wears morning dress, with striped trousers, grey ascot, waistcoat, and a cutaway morning coat.
The one exception is the Solicitor General - when the Solicitor General (or an assistant) argues a case before the Supreme Court of the United States, he or she wears morning dress, with striped trousers, grey ascot, waistcoat, and a cutaway morning coat.
Mar 7, 2008 | 2:28 pm
#94
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Depends
I like to fly in "Normal" clothes, a.k.a Jeans, Nice Shirt. - in any cabin. My brother on the other hand (he's 23), loves to wear some sweatpants and t-shirt, especially when flying in INT'L Premium Cabins 
When flying with other other passengers often try to board before him, but he stands his ground with a J/C class BP.
When flying with other other passengers often try to board before him, but he stands his ground with a J/C class BP.
Mar 7, 2008 | 2:32 pm
#95
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Very funny story indeed.
Sadly, there are many F pax out there that fit the profile of "the man" to a tee. That's why I hate waiting by the red carpet, because so many people, it seems, are trying to get a peek of the next guy over's boarding pass. Seriously, it's as if people never outgrew the high school locker room (pardon the pun).
As I don't have the corporate look, and prefer to board late, once last year I was mistaken as an NRSA. But it was a TED flight so I blew it off.
Sadly, there are many F pax out there that fit the profile of "the man" to a tee. That's why I hate waiting by the red carpet, because so many people, it seems, are trying to get a peek of the next guy over's boarding pass. Seriously, it's as if people never outgrew the high school locker room (pardon the pun
).As I don't have the corporate look, and prefer to board late, once last year I was mistaken as an NRSA. But it was a TED flight so I blew it off.
Mar 7, 2008 | 2:34 pm
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I like to fly in "Normal" clothes, a.k.a Jeans, Nice Shirt. - in any cabin. My brother on the other hand (he's 23), loves to wear some sweatpants and t-shirt, especially when flying in INT'L Premium Cabins When flying with other other passengers often try to board before him, but he stands his ground with a J/C class BP.
When flying with other other passengers often try to board before him, but he stands his ground with a J/C class BP.
Mar 7, 2008 | 5:36 pm
#97
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I like to fly in "Normal" clothes, a.k.a Jeans, Nice Shirt. - in any cabin. My brother on the other hand (he's 23), loves to wear some sweatpants and t-shirt, especially when flying in INT'L Premium Cabins When flying with other other passengers often try to board before him, but he stands his ground with a J/C class BP.
When flying with other other passengers often try to board before him, but he stands his ground with a J/C class BP.
Mar 10, 2008 | 5:18 pm
#98
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Man, this touches a nerve
Last week in F I had to convince a FA that she was standing in my seat.
Her: standing in front of my 1st row seat
Me: excuse me
Her: go on back
Me: (forced smile) no, that's my seat
Her: [surprise, no apology]
Then today when I checked in to a hotel, the SPG desk clerk asked me "how did you get this rate?". Me: "cash and points". Her, comparing my ID with my SPG account. Ohhhh, you're FIRSTNAME, Middlename Lastname (as though she'd figured it out -- I must be using my mother's account).
Me: "yeah, see how my Amex Plat card has Initial Name Lastname? I use my middle name for most things."
Her: let me know if you need anything, dear
My clients don't care what color my hair is or if I'm wearing a geek tee instead of a suit. They want good code. How long will it take for everyone else?
Meh. Everyone else should have my problems, I know. But seriously. It gets old.
Her: standing in front of my 1st row seat
Me: excuse me
Her: go on back
Me: (forced smile) no, that's my seat
Her: [surprise, no apology]
Then today when I checked in to a hotel, the SPG desk clerk asked me "how did you get this rate?". Me: "cash and points". Her, comparing my ID with my SPG account. Ohhhh, you're FIRSTNAME, Middlename Lastname (as though she'd figured it out -- I must be using my mother's account).
Me: "yeah, see how my Amex Plat card has Initial Name Lastname? I use my middle name for most things."
Her: let me know if you need anything, dear
My clients don't care what color my hair is or if I'm wearing a geek tee instead of a suit. They want good code. How long will it take for everyone else?
Meh. Everyone else should have my problems, I know. But seriously. It gets old.
Mar 10, 2008 | 5:25 pm
#99
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In my case, it's fat, ugly, casually dressed, and usually drinking a lot. I fit comfortably in an F seat (uncomfortably for me and my neighbor in Y), dress in business casual or likely a polo and jeans, and take full advantage of free drinks in F! ^
Mar 10, 2008 | 7:32 pm
#101
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While I agree dressing sloppy is not a great thing by any means, being dressed comfortably (sweats, jeans t-shirts etc) IMO is not a big deal as long as there aren't holes in the wrong places or people are mud stained or something...
"Perhaps if we dress like we are "flying first class" a FA would be more inclined to treat us as such"
As for this statement, why should an FA be allowed to make such sudden judgements when pax have BPs with them as direct evidence that the FA can examine? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
"Perhaps if we dress like we are "flying first class" a FA would be more inclined to treat us as such"
As for this statement, why should an FA be allowed to make such sudden judgements when pax have BPs with them as direct evidence that the FA can examine? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
maybe change the red carpet to a velvet rope like a night club? now that would be fun lol
Mar 10, 2008 | 9:12 pm
#102
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Here's the deal. No one likes wearing a business suit period, let alone on a plane. I mean, right now I'm sitting here in the ORD RCC in B waiting for my flight to DFW looking like a penguin not because I think I'm James Bond, but because I've been presenting a final deliverable to a client all afternoon and have not had the time to change before I got to the airport. I would imagine the majority of businesspeople in suits have the same story to tell.
Anyway, in a few minutes, I shall be walking over to the gate where the gate agent will notice my suit, determine that I am truly a man of distinction, beckon me toward her slowly with the index finger of her right hand while she begins to let down her hair with her left hand. She'll shake her head slowly to let her hair loose as I walk slowly toward the podium. By the time I reach the podium she will have a First Class Boarding Pass waiting for me on the counter. She'll write her phone number on the front and whisper "call me" as I pick up the boarding pass nonchalantly and proceed toward the red carpet to board my flight. The other gate agent will take my boarding pass, salute me and ask if he can touch my suit. I will decline and continue on down the jetway where I will be greeted and pampered by the FAs as I sit my self-important businessman arse down in seat 1B
Sometimes, it's good to wear a suit!
Anyway, in a few minutes, I shall be walking over to the gate where the gate agent will notice my suit, determine that I am truly a man of distinction, beckon me toward her slowly with the index finger of her right hand while she begins to let down her hair with her left hand. She'll shake her head slowly to let her hair loose as I walk slowly toward the podium. By the time I reach the podium she will have a First Class Boarding Pass waiting for me on the counter. She'll write her phone number on the front and whisper "call me" as I pick up the boarding pass nonchalantly and proceed toward the red carpet to board my flight. The other gate agent will take my boarding pass, salute me and ask if he can touch my suit. I will decline and continue on down the jetway where I will be greeted and pampered by the FAs as I sit my self-important businessman arse down in seat 1B
Sometimes, it's good to wear a suit!
Suit? I got married in one 39 years ago. Have not owned one since.
Still, my incredibly distinguished good looks, suave and debonair manner, and insouciant laugh guarantee that no one so much as bats an eye when I elbow my way to the front of the F line over old ladies, mothers with children too slow to complete pre-boarding on time, and make my way to the middle seat row 27.
Still, my incredibly distinguished good looks, suave and debonair manner, and insouciant laugh guarantee that no one so much as bats an eye when I elbow my way to the front of the F line over old ladies, mothers with children too slow to complete pre-boarding on time, and make my way to the middle seat row 27.
No looks, no charm, no suit, what am I ever going to do?
From looking around the boarding I have found out that I am incapable of determining who is sitting in C or F. Thankfully I have never made any comments. I'm foolish enough already.
Mar 11, 2008 | 9:33 am
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Just to clarify, the original title of this thread was "People need to give it up!" as in, people need to stop being judgmental about others. A moderator did not see the connection between the title and the content of the original post and subsequently changed the title of the thread.
Mar 11, 2008 | 10:11 am
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When flying in J on Air Canada, I tend to go a bit over casual. Other than that, I'm pretty much normal on the inside! :P Don't think because I dress a little over casual, that I have a lot of money, because that is the image I want to portray.
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