Are there any guidelines as to when to stop serving alcohol to a passenger?
Oct 11, 2005 | 11:20 am
#16
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Piedmont (remember them) got written up and fined by the FAA for over-serving pax after a serious runway overrun accident where two pax were so inebriated they didn't realize the plane had crashed and it took a couple of F/As (maybe assisted by able-bodied pax) to drag them from the plane during the evacuation. Word to the wise about getting trashed on your flights. If that plane had been on fire I doubt 4 people would be risking their own lives to drag a couple of drunks out of the flaming wreckage.
Oct 11, 2005 | 11:44 am
#17
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Yesterday flying from Chicago to Dulles the guy next to me was so smashed that when the FA came by and told him that he had to either put his bag all the way under the seat or in the overhead he just mumbled. Then when she came back 5 minutes later he still had not done it, so she just did it. Sad thing is that he didn't even realize it had been done till she told him that was what had happened. Scary part is that he was in the exit row and passed out. this could have been a flight safety issue.
Oct 12, 2005 | 11:11 pm
#18
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Originally Posted by wintersummer
I was on flight one time and FA continued to serve female pax in exit row. I guess I saw pax drink about 6 beers, to point she was standing up, singing, starting taking her top off. I was across aisle. I tend to take the exit row stuff seriously and there was no way in the world she could "follow commands, issue instructions" in her state. I was disappointed in FA for continuing to serve someone they had delegated responsibilities to.
Now that's BAD! Oh my gosh, that kind of stuff just never happens to me. I have to say that this was the FA's fault. There's quite a bit of time between beer 1 and stripping! Daddy's little girl, huh? Yikes!
Oct 13, 2005 | 12:28 am
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Speaking of exit row drunks:
I was on a flight from ORD-AMS 6 years ago with my partner and our 3 kids (aged at time time 6-9 years old). We were 2 rows behind the exit row where 2 middle aged 'gentlemen' were having a little party. The FA kept bringing them handfulls of airline booze bottles, and soon a 20 something from a few rows up was sitting in the flight attendant seat opposite them.
They were obnoxiously loud all night but the FA kept serving them anyway. After another hour or so, the 20-something was friggin' LAP DANCING on them and there was up-the-skirt groping going on. I swear I saw the chick's hoo-hah...and I'm not kidding. The FA ignored it all and if my kids hadn't been sound asleep I would have freaked. As it was I didn't want to raise a stink although looking back I should have.
About two hours before landing, the FA brought the men a paper bag (about lunch bag sized)...they opened it and it was FULL of airline booze bottles. I had seen money change hands before that and clearly this was what it was for. Yep, in the exit row, and the life of myself and my children depended on not only them, but the F/A's making sure that able bodied people sat in those seats. And here the F/A was taking a bribe for a sack full of booze after these two were already trashed. I got the impression these guys were frequent flyers on the route and the F/A knew them, and so they were 'excused' from proper behaviour.
For me personally, I find that drinking any alcohol in flight makes my feet swell up to the size of an elephants. I'm sure it's partly the long flights themselves, but a glass of wine with dinner and I can barely put my shoes back on...and my feet HURT. So I just avoid it. Although I did have a nice First Class from MSP-BOI where I had three wines and must say it was the shortest flight ever...it made sitting next to the professional Amway salesgirl much more tolerable LOL.
I was on a flight from ORD-AMS 6 years ago with my partner and our 3 kids (aged at time time 6-9 years old). We were 2 rows behind the exit row where 2 middle aged 'gentlemen' were having a little party. The FA kept bringing them handfulls of airline booze bottles, and soon a 20 something from a few rows up was sitting in the flight attendant seat opposite them.
They were obnoxiously loud all night but the FA kept serving them anyway. After another hour or so, the 20-something was friggin' LAP DANCING on them and there was up-the-skirt groping going on. I swear I saw the chick's hoo-hah...and I'm not kidding. The FA ignored it all and if my kids hadn't been sound asleep I would have freaked. As it was I didn't want to raise a stink although looking back I should have.
About two hours before landing, the FA brought the men a paper bag (about lunch bag sized)...they opened it and it was FULL of airline booze bottles. I had seen money change hands before that and clearly this was what it was for. Yep, in the exit row, and the life of myself and my children depended on not only them, but the F/A's making sure that able bodied people sat in those seats. And here the F/A was taking a bribe for a sack full of booze after these two were already trashed. I got the impression these guys were frequent flyers on the route and the F/A knew them, and so they were 'excused' from proper behaviour.
For me personally, I find that drinking any alcohol in flight makes my feet swell up to the size of an elephants. I'm sure it's partly the long flights themselves, but a glass of wine with dinner and I can barely put my shoes back on...and my feet HURT. So I just avoid it. Although I did have a nice First Class from MSP-BOI where I had three wines and must say it was the shortest flight ever...it made sitting next to the professional Amway salesgirl much more tolerable LOL.
Oct 13, 2005 | 1:05 pm
#20
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Originally Posted by IrishRed
Speaking of exit row drunks:
I was on a flight from ORD-AMS 6 years ago with my partner and our 3 kids (aged at time time 6-9 years old). We were 2 rows behind the exit row where 2 middle aged 'gentlemen' were having a little party. The FA kept bringing them handfulls of airline booze bottles, and soon a 20 something from a few rows up was sitting in the flight attendant seat opposite them.
They were obnoxiously loud all night but the FA kept serving them anyway. After another hour or so, the 20-something was friggin' LAP DANCING on them and there was up-the-skirt groping going on. I swear I saw the chick's hoo-hah...and I'm not kidding. The FA ignored it all and if my kids hadn't been sound asleep I would have freaked. As it was I didn't want to raise a stink although looking back I should have.
About two hours before landing, the FA brought the men a paper bag (about lunch bag sized)...they opened it and it was FULL of airline booze bottles. I had seen money change hands before that and clearly this was what it was for. Yep, in the exit row, and the life of myself and my children depended on not only them, but the F/A's making sure that able bodied people sat in those seats. And here the F/A was taking a bribe for a sack full of booze after these two were already trashed. I got the impression these guys were frequent flyers on the route and the F/A knew them, and so they were 'excused' from proper behaviour.
For me personally, I find that drinking any alcohol in flight makes my feet swell up to the size of an elephants. I'm sure it's partly the long flights themselves, but a glass of wine with dinner and I can barely put my shoes back on...and my feet HURT. So I just avoid it. Although I did have a nice First Class from MSP-BOI where I had three wines and must say it was the shortest flight ever...it made sitting next to the professional Amway salesgirl much more tolerable LOL.
I was on a flight from ORD-AMS 6 years ago with my partner and our 3 kids (aged at time time 6-9 years old). We were 2 rows behind the exit row where 2 middle aged 'gentlemen' were having a little party. The FA kept bringing them handfulls of airline booze bottles, and soon a 20 something from a few rows up was sitting in the flight attendant seat opposite them.
They were obnoxiously loud all night but the FA kept serving them anyway. After another hour or so, the 20-something was friggin' LAP DANCING on them and there was up-the-skirt groping going on. I swear I saw the chick's hoo-hah...and I'm not kidding. The FA ignored it all and if my kids hadn't been sound asleep I would have freaked. As it was I didn't want to raise a stink although looking back I should have.
About two hours before landing, the FA brought the men a paper bag (about lunch bag sized)...they opened it and it was FULL of airline booze bottles. I had seen money change hands before that and clearly this was what it was for. Yep, in the exit row, and the life of myself and my children depended on not only them, but the F/A's making sure that able bodied people sat in those seats. And here the F/A was taking a bribe for a sack full of booze after these two were already trashed. I got the impression these guys were frequent flyers on the route and the F/A knew them, and so they were 'excused' from proper behaviour.
For me personally, I find that drinking any alcohol in flight makes my feet swell up to the size of an elephants. I'm sure it's partly the long flights themselves, but a glass of wine with dinner and I can barely put my shoes back on...and my feet HURT. So I just avoid it. Although I did have a nice First Class from MSP-BOI where I had three wines and must say it was the shortest flight ever...it made sitting next to the professional Amway salesgirl much more tolerable LOL.
I hate to say it, but I bet the rowdy bunch were employees of the airline.
Oct 13, 2005 | 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by nwaflygirl
I hate to say it, but I bet the rowdy bunch were employees of the airline.
Oct 13, 2005 | 2:40 pm
#23
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Originally Posted by Scandalous
I'd say the limit should be zero drinks for obnoxious, rowdy drunks and polite, quiet, well behaved, unobtrusive drunks should be allow to drink until unconsciousness if that is there wish. (in which case they really won't be bothering anyone). Cutoff should come the second someone starts to make a nuisance of themselves, not based on raw number of drinks. For some folks that number would be very low and other cases very high. Behavior should be the determining factor.
I would agree that you can drink as much as you would like if you are sitting by the window, so someone doesn't have to climb over your mouth breathing passed out carcass in case of emergency or if you are in the exit row.
Oct 13, 2005 | 3:02 pm
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[QUOTE=Scandalous] Now if something about my behavior bothers my fellow passengers that would be a different story and I'd knock it off just to be polite but if a guy downs 10 drinks and remains a perfect gentleman, I don't see why anyone should have a problem with it.
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Ahhh..but you can HANDLE your drinks, and seem to be considerate of your neighbors. A lot of people are polite ladies or gentlemen until the booze catches up with them, which can easily happen when someone has 9 drinks in less than three hours. Do you want to wait and see if the PAX next to you is a 10 drink gentlemen, or if that tenth drink turns him into a complete a$$, when it's too late and you have to sit next to him for another hour?
I do agree that behaviour should be the determining factor overall, but some common sense on both the PAX and FA should be exercised as well. Especially if the PAX is in the exit seat
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Ahhh..but you can HANDLE your drinks, and seem to be considerate of your neighbors. A lot of people are polite ladies or gentlemen until the booze catches up with them, which can easily happen when someone has 9 drinks in less than three hours. Do you want to wait and see if the PAX next to you is a 10 drink gentlemen, or if that tenth drink turns him into a complete a$$, when it's too late and you have to sit next to him for another hour?
I do agree that behaviour should be the determining factor overall, but some common sense on both the PAX and FA should be exercised as well. Especially if the PAX is in the exit seat