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RNOHoosier Aug 25, 2005 11:38 am

Whenever someone complains about pets in hotels or on planes, I always think of an experience we had on a flight from OAK-ORD with one of our dogs (only had then one back then). We got on board (in mileage plus seating) and the guy two rows behind us commented upon seeing the dog "I think you should get that dog off the plane, it belongs underneath." At the time she was in her pet carrier and not making a peep. I told the guy off and pointed to the receipt for the $75 we'd paid to bring her on board. She was fine on the plane, other then a little crying at take off that you could barely hear. This guy, however, was traveling with two miserable kids, who screamed and threw tantrums the whole flight. As we're deplaning the woman in the seat behind me turned to me and said, loud enough that the man could hear it, "personally, I think most of us would have preferred to have your dog on the plane and these brats underneath any day!" The look on the guy's face when he heard that was priceless. Needless to say he didn't say a thing.

BigLar Aug 25, 2005 12:20 pm


Originally Posted by RNOHoosier
To say taking pets with you on travel is "not fair to the dog" is ridiculous.

I'm on business travel every week. Leaving him in the hotel room is not a good option.

He's a tan Lab. Extremely well behaved, but I still can't imagine carrying him on a plane. I can't imagine his reaction to take-off, either. :)

We have taken him to the woods, the beach, etc.

When we're on vacation, it's typically to Europe, so....

the_nomad Aug 25, 2005 12:24 pm

Personally I'd MUCH rather have a dog around in the breakfast room than a typically annoying young child any day!

oklAAhoma Aug 25, 2005 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by mommyistravelin
I travel to fort worth at least 3 times a month for business. Does anyone have another hotels for refer? I will never stay at this property again

It would be hard to make a recommendation without more info. Do you fly or drive to FW? In which area do you work? Have you searched for a different HH property on their website? Or do you prefer a different brand?

RNOHoosier Aug 25, 2005 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by BigLar
I'm on business travel every week. Leaving him in the hotel room is not a good option.

We have taken him to the woods, the beach, etc.

Well I wouldn't leave our dogs in the room either. If we have to go out somewhere, we usually will either take them, or if we can't do that, we find a doggy day care. Heck in Vegas they have 24 hour doggy day care centeres. You can drop off or pick up at any time.

Our little pups don't mind take off or landing too much. We recently got a bigger dog, however, so that may constrain our travel with them a bit. :)

se94583 Aug 27, 2005 1:15 am


Originally Posted by mommyistravelin
I attempted to ask for 100% but they denied.
What other options to do i have. I travel to fort worth at least 3 times a month for business. Does anyone have another hotels for refer? I will never stay at this property again

Sounds like you were trying to take advantage of the situation by asking for a refund. Find some kind of real injury! It's a DOG, for Christ's sake. Who was probably less smelly and less obnoxious than any infant in the area. It's not like the dog took a dump in the food area! Lots of people have dogs sitting at their dinner tables, and live another day!

the_nomad Aug 27, 2005 7:02 am


Originally Posted by se94583
Who was probably less smelly and less obnoxious than any infant in the area.

So true!
Plus I never seen a dog pick his nose and flick the boagie into the fruit bowl or scratch his bum, pick up a bagel, then put it back or throw food around the breakfast room. :mad:

Children below like age 8 or 9 shouldn't be allowed out in public.

Dogs are WAY more sanitary than most children.

flyerer Aug 27, 2005 10:32 am

Settle down
 
We all have the responsibility to be considerate to those around us.
Some people are afraid of dogs. Some people are afraid of children.
Health codes are there for a reason.

Have a nice weekend

BamaVol Aug 27, 2005 11:04 am


Originally Posted by the_nomad
So true!
Plus I never seen a dog pick his nose and flick the boagie into the fruit bowl or scratch his bum, pick up a bagel, then put it back or throw food around the breakfast room. :mad:

Children below like age 8 or 9 shouldn't be allowed out in public.

Dogs are WAY more sanitary than most children.

Disclaimer: I am a parent and a dog owner.

Why am I constantly reading statements on FT disparaging children? Were you not one yourself? Perhaps you have a problem with children who are poorly parented, but even the best children can be a handful at times ... ask your mother.

The essential difference for me between dogs and children is not the noise, or smell or pooping in public - they have that in common. I am allergic to most dogs! And I'm an 11 on a scale of 1-10 when it comes to cats. I am one of about 10% of the human population. Put me in a home with an animal or two and I will have difficulty breathing in about 30 minutes. On top of that, the sneezing, itchy eyes and general malaise are a royal PITA. If there were guaranteed designated no-pet rooms, I would have no problem with hotel properties allowing pets in selected rooms. But, let's face it, we've all been given non-smoking rooms and rental cars that reeked of cigarets. Until I can get an ironclad guarantee, I will continue to seek out hotels that permit pets under any condition (Excepting guide animals of course) and cross my fingers. They don't belong in the public rooms in a hotel.

Kids are everywhere and they have God-given rights like any adult human. I've learned to love some and tolerate others. Dogs are everywhere but they are possessions. Like handguns and steamer trunks, there are places where they belong and places where they don't. I don't expect everyone to understand this but hope that the majority of the population can empathize.

birdyy Aug 27, 2005 1:42 pm

Before I say anything, so I don't get attacked at the earliest convenience, let me say that I love animals absolutely love them but I don't think animals (other than service animals and they should be wearing the proper identification) belong in hotels. I once woke up in a hotel covered in flea bits. Unless the hotels fumagates every room that had an animal in it they can't clean it enough. The regular hotel cleaning would never take care of animal dander or fleas or take care of all the unseen stuff that some people can be so allergic to. I have also noticed that service animals and their humans are much better behaved then your average pet owner. The people with service animals I think are very aware of not imposing their companions on other people. I have never seen a service dog act like some of these pocket accessories that certain people insist on dragging everywhere. Yes, we all love our pets but must we make everyone love them?

the_nomad Aug 27, 2005 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol
Why am I constantly reading statements on FT disparaging children?

Because there are many, many, MANY good reasons.

Sure, ban pets from all public places but ban young children first. They are way more of a problem all around.

Cheers

the_nomad Aug 27, 2005 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by birdyy
Yes, we all love our pets but must we make everyone love them?

I have been saying the same thing about peoples' unruly brats for a long time.

If I'm expected to put up with them, folks are going to have to tolerate my pets who are cleaner, quieter, and generally more pleasant to be around.

No double standards.

flyinbob Aug 27, 2005 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by the_nomad
I have been saying the same thing about peoples' unruly brats for a long time.

If I'm expected to put up with them, folks are going to have to tolerate my pets who are cleaner, quieter, and generally more pleasant to be around.

No double standards.

No double standard involved. The brats (who can annoy the hell out of me) are human, and have rights. The dogs are animals, and don't. That's it. Agree or not, dogs are not people and do not have any rights at all. Any rights of the animal are strictly by their owners (yes, OWNERS). They must control the animal at all times, and in a conflict between animal and human, the human's considerations not only come first, they are the only ones that exist.

Bondiboy Aug 27, 2005 3:14 pm

Dog Owners have rights ... also
 

Originally Posted by flyinbob
Agree or not, dogs are not people and do not have any rights at all. Any rights of the animal are strictly by their owners (yes, OWNERS). They must control the animal at all times, and in a conflict between animal and human, the human's considerations not only come first, they are the only ones that exist.


I do not think that anyone has inferred or suggested that dogs have rights .. although there are recent court cases which would suggest that they may have some limited rights. However, the dog owners DO have rights, including the right to be accompanied by the dog, subject of course to the dog being under control.

Please do not tell me that I can't have my dog with me in the public areas of a hotel just because you don't happen to like dogs.

I have NEVER seen dogs in an Executive lounge handling the bread rolls; taking candy and then returning it to the plate; or watching cartoons on the television with very loud sound. All dogs that I have seen in hotels have been well behaved.

BamaVol Aug 27, 2005 8:07 pm


Originally Posted by Bondiboy
Please do not tell me that I can't have my dog with me in the public areas of a hotel just because you don't happen to like dogs.

I'm pretty sure your rights as a hotel guest are the same as mine. If you want to take your doggie to breakfast and I want to eat in a pet-free environment, whose right prevails? I'm no lawyer or philosopher but I say mine does because it imposes less on others.


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