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Old May 13, 2005 | 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by joelfreak
Now, I am not one to WANT to step in urine...but if you are going to step in it with your shoes on, or barefoot, you are going to spread it in the same manner. So the ONLY health issue here is for the actual person walking themselves, and NOT to the plane in general.

what if he/she is travelling biz or first and puts his/her dirty feet on the flat bed somebody else is gonna use on the following fllight?it's all about good manners
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Old May 13, 2005 | 1:13 am
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Its going to be the same thing as if someone puts their shoes on that same bed. If they are barefeet or shoes is really not relevant, the relevant point is if they are dirty or not.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by MACH81
what if he/she is travelling biz or first and puts his/her dirty feet on the flat bed somebody else is gonna use on the following fllight?it's all about good manners
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. You'd rather they put a foot with a shoe on the flat bed rather than bare feet?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 1:19 am
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Originally Posted by rjque
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. You'd rather they put a foot with a shoe on the flat bed rather than bare feet?
just if they go barefoot to the toilets
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Old May 13, 2005 | 2:57 am
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I think AA actually encourage this when travelling international in J and F. They give you a pair of socks in the amenity kit.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 6:03 am
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I'm really surprised. I think there is a most definite safety issue for parts of the flight. If there is an emergency and people are scrambling towards exits I would want some form of protection on my fees. If you had to evacuate an aircraft in an emergency you could get a blister from the slide or step in glass or anything else just at the moment that you should be running from the aircraft. As for these socks - well they are supposed to keep your feet warm 0 and that is another reason why I always wear shoes when I am a passenger. Aircraft are frequently cold and I hate draughts around my feet.

I can never understand how people feel comfortable running round the house barefoot but each to their own. Still I do dislike people coming on board flights dressed as though they were bound for the beach. Someone mentionned shirtless - yes seen that. Swimsuits, bikinis, shorts that leave nothing to the imagination, T-shirts that cling so much that I can tell that they have got pierced nipples (how do they get through security?), and then there are the cute and witty messages on the front of the T shirt that make me wonder if the people actually speak english and realise what it means. I could provide examples but children might be reading this. If this was the BA Forum I would be happy to tell you a story about a lady who wore no shoes - but this is the AA Forum and it would not be appropriate.

Yes, been there and seen it all. They are tasteless but not a health issue to others unfortunately. Yes, people patter off to the bathroom with nothing on their feet, and then when they hurt themselves - or cut themselves guess which cabin crew member is a Nurse.

If they are adults and should know better, I have no compuction in using lots of very strong disinfectant and if it hurts - well they'll live. I give them a pillow to muffle their shrieks as in my space no one should hear you scream.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by yellow77
Not trying to troll - but it escapes me what the obvious health issue is here. I know people who barely ever put shoes on (ok, not in winter in the northern US) and live regular student city lives. They don't seem to suffer any health problems once their skin is nice and toughened. I don't do it myself, but not for health reasons (just don't have tough enough feet yet, though marathon running is getting me there). Several top marathoners run road marathons barefoot. So rather than take up the thread with a discussion of this since you all seem pretty much to agree, can someone point me to a scientific article discussing the health risks of not wearing shoes, since I just can't see what they are? Thanks.
It's not a health issue for the person who is barefoot, but for other people. If you have some kind of infection or other disgusting ailment on your foot - nobody wants to see that or have your foot exposed.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by FlyAO2
It's not a health issue for the person who is barefoot, but for other people. If you have some kind of infection or other disgusting ailment on your foot - nobody wants to see that or have your foot exposed.
Maybe nobody wants to see it, but I bet most people don't care one way or another. I sure as heck don't.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by joelfreak
Americans are VERY "foot phobic". Feet are just like hands...they touch things. ..
The big difference though is that (hopefully) people wash their hands throughout the day and should be cleaner and less smelly than someone popping out their smelly feet and cleaning out their toe jam

Anyone ever had someone CLIP their toenails onboard? Hopefully we can all agree THAT would be too much

For safety, I don't ever take off my shoes till we're airborne and I put them back on before landing so if we have to evac suddenly I have some protection.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 7:24 am
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[QUOTE=Flyer1965]The big difference though is that (hopefully) people wash their hands throughout the day and should be cleaner and less smelly than someone popping out their smelly feet and cleaning out their toe jam

[QUOTE]

I agree about cleaning ones feet on the plane. If they smell, though, they'll smell just as much with socks on...probably more. For this argument, barefoot would be at least as good as socks...probably better.


Originally Posted by Flyer1965
For safety, I don't ever take off my shoes till we're airborne and I put them back on before landing so if we have to evac suddenly I have some protection.
I do this as well. The issues about safety really only apply in these cases. Once you're at altitude, the reality is that it is very unlikely that there will be an evacuation or that slides will be used. At that point, it really doesn't matter whether ones shoes are on or off when the plane hits the ground.

Cheers.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
I'm really surprised. I think there is a most definite safety issue for parts of the flight. If there is an emergency and people are scrambling towards exits I would want some form of protection on my fees. If you had to evacuate an aircraft in an emergency you could get a blister from the slide or step in glass or anything else just at the moment that you should be running from the aircraft...
I would have agreed with your logic, but I was in a crash landing once where the landing gear was stuck in the up position and before impact the FAs instructed the PAXs to move to the front and back of the cabin and to remove all shoes.

I later learned that the apparent reasoning behind the removal of the shoes was that the impact of the landing could easily force the heel of the shoe through your foot and that there was also a real risk that shoes would rip the evacuation slides unlike barefeet or socks.

Shoeless, everyone survived and no slides were ripped.

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Old May 13, 2005 | 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by howellajohnson
I would have agreed with your logic, but I was in a crash landing once where the landing gear was stuck in the up position and before impact the FAs instructed the PAXs to move to the front and back of the cabin and to remove all shoes.

I later learned that the apparent reasoning behind the removal of the shoes was that the impact of the landing could easily force the heel of the shoe through your foot and that there was also a real risk that shoes would rip the evacuation slides unlike barefeet or socks.

Shoeless, eveyone survived and no slides were ripped.
Slightly OT, but were there enough empty seats that everyone was still in a seat and seatbelted? Why move to the front and back of the cabin, or was it mostly away from the impacted gear?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 7:46 am
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On a recent return trip from Hawaii, a girl in the seat behind me put her bare feet on the back of my armrest. Now, she was cute, but I considered it fairly rude on her part. My seat, my armrest, thank you very much.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by jabrams72
Slightly OT, but were there enough empty seats that everyone was still in a seat and seatbelted? Why move to the front and back of the cabin, or was it mostly away from the impacted gear?
We were told that planes without landing gear tend to break apart in the center first on impact...and yes, there were enough seats!
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Old May 13, 2005 | 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
If they are adults and should know better, I have no compuction in using lots of very strong disinfectant and if it hurts - well they'll live. I give them a pillow to muffle their shrieks as in my space no one should hear you scream.
LOL! Too funny
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