Is the standard now for window shades to be closed on all flights at all times?
#32
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Unsure how effective an eyeshade is to reduce the glare on screens when reflected thru the window. The person sitting in the window seat is often least affected by reflected glare. It can be blinding. Many times, it is the screen glare from the window seat occupant that is blinding. They're oblivious
#33
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As stated in other comments, I sit at the window to view the outside. It does sound like a new norm. Not saying I am for it though. I have worked on things via my laptop/tablet and the window was up. I think to each their own. As long as the airlines don’t start requiring it. Which would make no sense. I would need a scientific back reason why haha. No really enjoy your flights with the shades up and enjoy the view !!!
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Planes are like "sardine" cans, with the shades open the inside and outside merge giving me the perception of a more spacious plane. I also like to see the landscape below, spotting landmarks is also nice.
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The big question is why doesn’t the FAA mandate shades up for takeoff/landing like many other countries? If all the shades are down there is no situational awareness of what is going outside and your eyes would have trouble adjusting to daylight in the event of an evacuation.
#38
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I got used to it, and think it's ok.
Pre-Covid, I did LAX-JFK roundtrips several times a year in Business Class. I have always preferred window seats (avoids being bumped by passengers and crew walking past) and have always enjoyed looking out, especially for daytime cross country trips where I can work but also periodically look out the window and remind myself what an extraordinary country this is. So I was somewhat annoyed when the informal protocol of keeping the shades closed took hold many years ago, but I also realized that a lot of people needed to sleep, the glare of the sun really was disturbing for working or watching movies depending on the plane's angle, etc. So I'm now fine with closing the shades and keeping them closed throughout the flight. On most flights, they were required to be open for takeoff and landing, for safety reasons, and some cabin crews enforced this policy but most didn't.
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The big question is why doesn’t the FAA mandate shades up for takeoff/landing like many other countries? If all the shades are down there is no situational awareness of what is going outside and your eyes would have trouble adjusting to daylight in the event of an evacuation.
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Sunday I was flying MXP-JFK all day flight. As soon as lunch was served everyone put down their window shades presumably to sleep and watch IFE. I get it , and closed mine. However I connected onto a lga-dfw flight also day (albeit late afternoon) and everyone had their shade down...everyone...except me the whole way. I like to look out the window, sorry folks.
#42
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What I hate is when the window seat person insists on shades down all the way through landing! I really like to see how close the plane is to the ground so that BUMP doesn't startle me.
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( we were both in the F cabin)
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I'm one of those folks who gets a lot of work done on my laptop during flights, so I like a darker cabin. I prefer window seats as well, and close the shade. But I also enjoy looking out the window from time to time, for example, while eating lunch/dinner. I think if the window-seat occupant is enjoying the view, that's fine. But if they are going to sleep, I'd appreciate it if they would close the shade first.
I thought it was an FAA regulation to have the shades up for takeoff and landing.
I thought it was an FAA regulation to have the shades up for takeoff and landing.