Coronavirus - what are companies doing
#46
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The first case reported in Germany was a worker based there infected by a Chinese colleague who was visiting from Shanghai- except that she'd recently been with family who live in Wuhan. She appeared healthy but developed symptoms on her flight home. Here's a link from Scientific American- I got the Wuhan detail from Tagesschau, a German news podcast.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...omatic-person/
I'd say employers should err on the side of caution.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...omatic-person/
I'd say employers should err on the side of caution.
#47
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Virus particles aren't really going to be floating free in the air anyway. They're carried in water droplets from coughs and sneezes, and those are almost universally larger than 5 micron, with most much larger. A filter that stops 0.5 micron particles is going to be fine for that. When I was looking through some published reports, medical workers who wore N95 masks in environments where they were caring for people with related viruses contracted them at much lower rates. But if you don't have good bio lab hygiene in addition to the mask (washing hands, gloves, keeping hands away from your face) then you can transmit a virus from a surface to yourself despite the mask. And if you're in an environment that has a low probability of the virus even being present (i.e. most places outside of the coronavirus ward at the hospital) it's not going to make much difference. Preventing spread from the source by having sick people wear masks will have more effect than having healthy people wear masks everywhere.
#48
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I am betting that it’s not limited to being spread by just water droplets in cough and sneezes. Given what medical researchers have said, I would suspect that this stuff may also be spread by more than just saliva and upper respiratory tract expulsions — especially as leaping from animal feces to humans has happened with previous zooish coronaviruses and thus suggest that contact with human fecal matter can also be a vector to spread it. If you want to ask how often people come in contact with fecal matter from other people, the answer is way more than most people realize: those seats you sit on, those bathroom door handles/locks and fixtures, pump-action soap-dispensers, used toilet paper rolls, and perhaps even at times from electronics such as remote controls, cell phones and laptops that are shared.
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Just received an email from the NSW Chamber of Commerce. This was the last point.
However, in this event, the employer should pay for the employee to see the doctor as well as for their time away from the workplace if the employee does not agree to take paid leave. The employer will be responsible for paying the employee until such time as medical confirmation is obtained that the employee is unfit for work. Once an employee is certified as unfit, then the employee can be required to take a form of leave (whether paid or unpaid).
However, in this event, the employer should pay for the employee to see the doctor as well as for their time away from the workplace if the employee does not agree to take paid leave. The employer will be responsible for paying the employee until such time as medical confirmation is obtained that the employee is unfit for work. Once an employee is certified as unfit, then the employee can be required to take a form of leave (whether paid or unpaid).
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Just received an email from the NSW Chamber of Commerce. This was the last point.
However, in this event, the employer should pay for the employee to see the doctor as well as for their time away from the workplace if the employee does not agree to take paid leave. The employer will be responsible for paying the employee until such time as medical confirmation is obtained that the employee is unfit for work. Once an employee is certified as unfit, then the employee can be required to take a form of leave (whether paid or unpaid).
However, in this event, the employer should pay for the employee to see the doctor as well as for their time away from the workplace if the employee does not agree to take paid leave. The employer will be responsible for paying the employee until such time as medical confirmation is obtained that the employee is unfit for work. Once an employee is certified as unfit, then the employee can be required to take a form of leave (whether paid or unpaid).
#51
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just a recommendation. I get we dont want virus to spread but a small business paying for doctors then 2 weeks off?
#52
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What are passengers doing at US airports
I haven't flown since mid-January and won't until later in the month so I have no recent experience.
Are many people wearing masks at major US airports, such as JFK, ORD, DEN, PHX, SEA, SFO, LAX? Or does it vary between airports? (Maybe fewer at DFW and more at JFK?)
Are many people wearing masks on US domestic flights?
Should I get a mask? Was also thinking of gloves so that I can take off gloves when eating.
Are many people wearing masks at major US airports, such as JFK, ORD, DEN, PHX, SEA, SFO, LAX? Or does it vary between airports? (Maybe fewer at DFW and more at JFK?)
Are many people wearing masks on US domestic flights?
Should I get a mask? Was also thinking of gloves so that I can take off gloves when eating.
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Wash your hands regularly.
#54
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i would aim for a certified n100 or p100 respirator which would filter out 99.7% IF worn correctly but fact is the disposable type don't make the best seal even if attempted to be worn properly
definitely dont touch mouth, nose, eyes, etc
if you have runny eyes, wear an eye mask as airborne particles can possibly enter through eyes
so in summary, a proper mask, worn properly, and other precautions taken, you can protect yourself from the virus but not 100%
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I haven't flown since mid-January and won't until later in the month so I have no recent experience.
Are many people wearing masks at major US airports, such as JFK, ORD, DEN, PHX, SEA, SFO, LAX? Or does it vary between airports? (Maybe fewer at DFW and more at JFK?)
Are many people wearing masks on US domestic flights?
Should I get a mask? Was also thinking of gloves so that I can take off gloves when eating.
Are many people wearing masks at major US airports, such as JFK, ORD, DEN, PHX, SEA, SFO, LAX? Or does it vary between airports? (Maybe fewer at DFW and more at JFK?)
Are many people wearing masks on US domestic flights?
Should I get a mask? Was also thinking of gloves so that I can take off gloves when eating.
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The pax next to me last night IAH-LAX had a mask (surgical type, not respirator) on. She seemed to have a very mild cold and was probably wearing it to avoid spreading it. She didn't talk much and I didn't ask. She coughed a little with a cough that sounded like a cold, but wasn't really very cough-y or sneezy.
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last Levening there was an email sent to every employee our corporate office in Singapore requesting to fill travel declaration form documenting recent (14 days) travel to/from China, including transit, for both business/leisure. In the corresponding email it was said that request came from ministry of health and it was sent to every employer in Singapore.
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Son in Law works for a billion dollar world wide known company. They are sending him to Thailand in two weeks. They say they have investigated everything and they should be safe. Hmm.
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Finnish-Swedish pulp, paper and forest products manufacturer Stora Enso did yesterday announce that they have banned their employees to travel by air for this month. Air travel ban does not apply to free time, only work trips, although they may still suggest telecommunting for a while if one has spent time in areas where there is significant infection risks. Stora Enso has some production in China too.