Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > TravelBuzz
Reload this Page >

I hate business travelers.

I hate business travelers.

Reply

Old Jun 7, 18, 7:19 am
  #376  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K, BA Silver, Accor Plat, Marriott Gold, Carlson Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 20,538
Originally Posted by dmo580 View Post
they are semi unreachable for 4-5 hours.
Hopefully we never have cell phone usage in the sky. Can you imagine a (luxurious domestic first) cabin of self-important "businessmen" trying to out-do each other on whose widgets are more important to sell, and how proud they are of themselves for reaching the quarterly goal..... for the entire flight. *shudder*
rankourabu is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 8:48 am
  #377  
Ambassador: Emirates
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,230
Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
Hopefully we never have cell phone usage in the sky. Can you imagine a (luxurious domestic first) cabin of self-important "businessmen" trying to out-do each other on whose widgets are more important to sell, and how proud they are of themselves for reaching the quarterly goal..... for the entire flight. *shudder*
It's already possible if that's what you mean
skywardhunter is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 9:11 am
  #378  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: GE, Marriott Gold
Posts: 12,601
Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
Hopefully we never have cell phone usage in the sky. Can you imagine a (luxurious domestic first) cabin of self-important "businessmen" trying to out-do each other on whose widgets are more important to sell, and how proud they are of themselves for reaching the quarterly goal..... for the entire flight. *shudder*
Planes did use to have those phones at the back at every seat. I don't think they were used much due to the high prices, though.
tmiw is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 9:13 am
  #379  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC E75K 2MM former 14-year SE; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 27,651
Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
It depends on how "intrude" is defined. It is quite possible to talk on a cell phone at a volume no greater than a quiet conversation. In a busy airport lounge or waiting area it should be no more noticeable than other ambient noise. If however you are expecting library-quality sound levels then you will be intruded upon. It is unreasonable to expect people to hold all calls.
Exactly.
yyznomad is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 9:23 am
  #380  
Ambassador: Emirates
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,230
Originally Posted by tmiw View Post
Planes did use to have those phones at the back at every seat. I don't think they were used much due to the high prices, though.
Virtually every international flight I'm on still does, plus mobile network onboard
skywardhunter is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 10:20 am
  #381  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K, BA Silver, Accor Plat, Marriott Gold, Carlson Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 20,538
Originally Posted by skywardhunter View Post
It's already possible if that's what you mean
In North American domestic first? Hope it never happens.
This is where the worst offenders are, not in international J. Corporate peons travelling between Scranton and Des Moines to sell widgets for the bossman thinking that they are doing work crucial to the survival of their company. The less important theu are - the more of a big deal they will make out of themselves
rankourabu is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 10:37 am
  #382  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 6,495
Originally Posted by atomicfront View Post
You mention "we". I had multiple bags and it was just me and my daughter. If it weren't my daughter beside me it would be my bags. Whatever get over yourself.
The Japanese have figured out how to make it work.


Originally Posted by pinniped View Post
400 is up there. There are lots of pilots who don't fly that many segments per year.
I'm a 737 pilot. In 2017 I flew 231 flights as a crewmember plus a few (<5) deadheading. Probably another 60, at most, commuting. Can't imagine how someone flying 400 would have any time left over to be productive at their job.
84fiero and Great_circle like this.
LarryJ is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 10:45 am
  #383  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K+K
Programs: *G
Posts: 4,213
At this minute in the lounge a leisurely dressed woman on my left is shouting on the phone to her daughter while a man to my right is commanding a conference call.

Both are competing to see who is the loudest guest in the room.

It's not to do with business, or leisure travelers.
deniah is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 7, 18, 10:54 am
  #384  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,107
Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
Hopefully we never have cell phone usage in the sky.
Amen
cheaptom is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 18, 12:48 am
  #385  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,925
Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
It depends on how "intrude" is defined. It is quite possible to talk on a cell phone at a volume no greater than a quiet conversation. In a busy airport lounge or waiting area it should be no more noticeable than other ambient noise. If however you are expecting library-quality sound levels then you will be intruded upon. It is unreasonable to expect people to hold all calls.
I think we all know the type of calls (and callers) being discussed.
ft101 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 18, 4:16 am
  #386  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Rowley, MA / Edgartown, MA / Christiansted, St. Croix
Programs: UA LT GS/4.6MM, Marriott LT Plat, IHG Spire Elite, Global Entry, TSA Pre✓, Korea SeS, APEC
Posts: 482
Originally Posted by cheaptom View Post
I truly believe that the phone calls they make between boarding and taxiing are a power trip to let the other passengers know that they are important businessmen. I have never once overheard a pre-takeoff call that was urgent. It's for show, and it's always the same: "Hey, it's me. I just got on the plane in ____. Should be landing in ____ and I'll call you then. Oh, did so-and-so get back to you about ____? I'll have to deal with that later."
Have we reached the point where we are judging the personal value of phone calls others are making! It's nice to see some us are without flaws, certified as both judge and jury! If everyone simply used basic common curtesy and remained aware of their surroundings travel would be much better for everyone. As for business travelers being better or worse, the answer is, yes. There are business travelers of all kinds plus, people have bad days and good days. At the same-time, the fact is, the exact same thing can be said of leisure travelers.
John Aldeborgh is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 18, 8:18 am
  #387  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: UA 1K, AF Silver
Posts: 1,412
I personally would prefer no cell phone usage while in the air. Just for the peace and quiet.Perfectly happy to rely solely on wifi. I'm also hoping some airlines can make that work better.And I’m okay with calls while still at the gate and upon landing.If you want to return an urgent call to a client while waiting for the rest of the plane to board, okay.Just use your indoor vioice.Want to call you significant other on landing so they know they can drive to the airport to get you, again okay.
Artpen100 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 18, 8:47 am
  #388  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA AA
Posts: 53
less intrusive than drunk partiers

Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
Exactly.
The occasional phone call, especially when done at a normal / soft volume, is nothing compared to groups "going on a trip" and have had a few before boarding.
tbuccelli is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 18, 9:29 am
  #389  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LTPP, HH Diamond
Posts: 46,108
Originally Posted by tmiw View Post
Planes did use to have those phones at the back at every seat. I don't think they were used much due to the high prices, though.
Those prices were a wonderful thing, sort of like $10 beers at NFL games.

Originally Posted by deniah View Post
At this minute in the lounge a leisurely dressed woman on my left is shouting on the phone to her daughter while a man to my right is commanding a conference call.

Both are competing to see who is the loudest guest in the room.

It's not to do with business, or leisure travelers.
You should tell them to jack it up a notch - tell them their volume will determine the winner of a business vs. leisure internet thread.

Originally Posted by Artpen100 View Post
I personally would prefer no cell phone usage while in the air.
Yes!! Some airlines are giving people free chat/text access. (Whatsapp, etc.) Hopefully that suffices for people who absolutely cannot survive a few hours in the air without two-way interaction with the rest of the world.
pinniped is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 18, 2:35 pm
  #390  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC E75K 2MM former 14-year SE; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 27,651
Originally Posted by John Aldeborgh View Post
Have we reached the point where we are judging the personal value of phone calls others are making! It's nice to see some us are without flaws, certified as both judge and jury! If everyone simply used basic common curtesy and remained aware of their surroundings travel would be much better for everyone. As for business travelers being better or worse, the answer is, yes. There are business travelers of all kinds plus, people have bad days and good days. At the same-time, the fact is, the exact same thing can be said of leisure travelers.
Exactly!

Originally Posted by tbuccelli View Post
The occasional phone call, especially when done at a normal / soft volume, is nothing compared to groups "going on a trip" and have had a few before boarding.
Of course! And I think this is in the same vein as in what @Badenoch and others are saying.
yyznomad is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread