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trajanc May 5, 2018 12:00 am

I hate business travelers.
 
I find nothing sucks the joy out of travel quicker than being around business travelers. They are a at once a reminder of everything I am trying to escape from when I travel and a too frequent source of painful distraction.
I hate the shop talk. I don’t need to hear the two of you discuss your marketing goals for your stupid f’ing wine cooler.
I hate the safe soulless banter that passes for your personal conversations. You don’t want to be there having the conversation. I don’t want to be next to you having to listen to it.
I hate the office you create with your lap top and whatever other crap you drag around and I hate how you go into a full clench if anyone intrudes by say reclining a seat or trying to walk past you or just breathing.
I hate your status. Your DYKWIA gold platinum diamond elite status that has polluted your very soul. ‘This place sucks because they didn’t acknowledge my status.’ ‘This hotel was the worst because they didn’t give me my upgrade.’ ‘This airline is garbage because they didn’t offer me a golden throne.’
I hate it when you swarm the bar or crowd the dance floor. What’s the term for a group of overly competitive a’holes who don’t really like each other but are still trying to party down? A clench? A puke? A puke. That works.
If I could I’d build a big beautiful lounge that could hold every business traveler far away from me. Really, you have all earned it.

LondonElite May 5, 2018 12:17 am

Maybe a moderator can merge this into one of the ‘I need to vent’ or ‘pointless things to moan about’ threads. At least you didn’t lump everyone together!

abmj-jr May 5, 2018 1:08 am


Originally Posted by trajanc (Post 29717826)
... I hate the shop talk. I don’t need to hear the two of you discuss your marketing goals for your stupid f’ing wine cooler.
...

For your edification, the accepted term among those of us in the same camp is "SIBT" (Self Important Business Traveler.)

You are not alone.

Silver Fox May 5, 2018 1:13 am

I'd have given you a 1000 likes if I could. One I heard the other week was "I turned down being the CEO as I enjoy the day to day blah blah blah".

evergrn May 5, 2018 1:28 am

This is actually a good topic.
I only wish the OP phrased things a bit differently so that the topic could be discussed more constructively and hence be given more credibility.

Biz travelers are good and bad.
GOOD (as you'll see, they're only good at hotels):
- They often check in later and check out earlier, facilitating early check-in / late check-out for others.
- Quick in/out with breakfast, allowing for faster table turnover..
- Less likely to use pools.
- Make for quieter neighbors than leisure families/couples, when staying in hotel rooms.

BAD:
- Worst manners at airport lounges (talk loud, prop feet up on tables).
- More carry-on volume.
- Myopic, misguided sense of entitlement wrt their program status and how they're better than leisure travelers, which is SO PERVASIVE here on FT. (I earned my Hilton Diamond status. You got yours through match/cc.)

Silver Fox May 5, 2018 1:32 am

Personally I think the OP was spot on and put it in a way that was close to the heart and one which chimes with me, and probably a lot of others. Genuine posts that are from the heart, that I like. It's like the sort of chat you would have in a bar with a mate when you have just had enough of something.

LondonElite May 5, 2018 1:58 am


I’m a frequent business traveller, yet I don’t recognise myself in either quote. How can this be?

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Originally Posted by trajanc (Post 29717826)
I find nothing sucks the joy out of travel quicker than being around business travelers. They are a at once a reminder of everything I am trying to escape from when I travel and a too frequent source of painful distraction.
I hate the shop talk. I don’t need to hear the two of you discuss your marketing goals for your stupid f’ing wine cooler.
I hate the safe soulless banter that passes for your personal conversations. You don’t want to be there having the conversation. I don’t want to be next to you having to listen to it.
I hate the office you create with your lap top and whatever other crap you drag around and I hate how you go into a full clench if anyone intrudes by say reclining a seat or trying to walk past you or just breathing.
I hate your status. Your DYKWIA gold platinum diamond elite status that has polluted your very soul. ‘This place sucks because they didn’t acknowledge my status.’ ‘This hotel was the worst because they didn’t give me my upgrade.’ ‘This airline is garbage because they didn’t offer me a golden throne.’
I hate it when you swarm the bar or crowd the dance floor. What’s the term for a group of overly competitive a’holes who don’t really like each other but are still trying to party down? A clench? A puke? A puke. That works.
If I could I’d build a big beautiful lounge that could hold every business traveler far away from me. Really, you have all earned it.


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 29717958)
This is actually a good topic.
I only wish the OP phrased things a bit differently so that the topic could be discussed more constructively and hence be given more credibility.

Biz travelers are good and bad.
GOOD (as you'll see, they're only good at hotels):
- They often check in later and check out earlier, facilitating early check-in / late check-out for others.
- Quick in/out with breakfast, allowing for faster table turnover..
- Less likely to use pools.
- Make for quieter neighbors than leisure families/couples, when staying in hotel rooms.

BAD:
- Worst manners at airport lounges (talk loud, prop feet up on tables).
- More carry-on volume.
- Myopic, misguided sense of entitlement wrt their program status and how they're better than leisure travelers, which is SO PERVASIVE here on FT. (I earned my Hilton Diamond status. You got yours through match/cc.)


evergrn May 5, 2018 3:15 am


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 29717977)

I’m a frequent business traveller, yet I don’t recognise myself in either quote. How can this be?

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Most business travelers are fine. But business travelers are more likely to be this way (referring to what I said above) than leisure travelers.

Low Roller May 5, 2018 4:28 am

I'm not a business traveler, but I'd prefer to deal with that sort of behavior instead of the leisure traveler who:
- holds up the security line because they have no idea what has to be removed or put in bins
- holds up boarding while they try to jam their clearly-oversized bag into the overhead bin
- bring along a hoard of children who run around screaming in the airport, on the plane and in the hotel hallways

Badenoch May 5, 2018 5:05 am

What should really suck the joy out of the OP's travel is knowing that the business traveller he resents so much:

Has elite status on the airline and gets perks and upgrades he can only dream of and are permanently beyond his grasp.

Is probably sitting in the front in a comfortable seat that was paid for by someone else while he paid out of his own pocket to be crammed into tiny seat in the back.

Will be seated first, will always find sufficient room in the overhead and might even enjoy the burning stares of people seated in Zone 4 who are waiting in a long line while he goes to the front.

And if your hate becomes so overwhelming my advice to the OP is to take the bus. Fewer business people on buses and a social class probably more suitable for his position in life.

rbwpi May 5, 2018 5:10 am

As a frequent leisure traveler I appreciate the fact that business travelers subsidize the costs of my travel.

deniah May 5, 2018 5:11 am

To be honest I rarely encounter or overhear this sort of stuff

NYTA May 5, 2018 5:12 am

I'm a frequent business and leisure traveler and the only difference is that when I travel for business I'm alone and when I travel for leisure I'm with my wife and/or kids, all of whom are worse travelers than I am so we probably end up disturbing other people like the OP a lot more when traveling for leisure. (Usually me shouting at the kids to stop misbehaving or whatever). When it's just me alone on a business trip, I'm at my window seat usually asleep, reading or watching a movie - not even talking to other people. I don't even talk to other people in the lounge unless I run into someone I know and usually it's a less than 5 minute conversation. I enjoy the solitude of business travel.

"crowd the dance floor"? Where are business travelers going dancing? I have been traveling for business for 25 years and the very rare times I ever danced while traveling for work were at private, corporate sponsored parties arranged around a conference which, by definition, was exactly what you were hoping for - a lounge for only business travelers where you wouldn't see them as you wouldn't be invited!

fotographer May 5, 2018 5:47 am

I am the kind of business traveler, that when at the airport/plane/hotel, all my business comes to a stop. (well it helps that I work for myself.)

NoTravelIsFree May 5, 2018 6:00 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29718243)
And if your hate becomes so overwhelming my advice to the OP is to take the bus. Fewer business people on buses and a social class probably more suitable for his position in life.

Exhibit A


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