Taking control of the Overheads
Jun 15, 2017 | 9:32 am
#77
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA & DL / SPG & HGP
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Take it out, put your bag there, politely ask if this is anyone's bag, and if the person doesn't respond simply tell the attendant you found this under the seat, it may have been left there by the previous passenger. Perhaps they should take it out and page someone over the intercom in the airport terminal.
Jun 17, 2017 | 11:52 am
#78
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: EMA (how boring) but BHX is more convenient.
Posts: 3,185
There's something I'm really failing to 'get' concerning overheads. Given that there is one overhead per seat, and that they seem to handle the correct number of correctly sized bags, why do we run out of overhead space?
It seems to me that if they enforce carry on bag size, that they could do so in a way that guarantees sufficient overhead space with not too complicated correct placement of bags. So, why not?
I was on a flight Thursday where Easyjet made a lot of people check their carry-ons. (Not me fortunately).
It seems to me that if they enforce carry on bag size, that they could do so in a way that guarantees sufficient overhead space with not too complicated correct placement of bags. So, why not?
I was on a flight Thursday where Easyjet made a lot of people check their carry-ons. (Not me fortunately).
Jun 17, 2017 | 11:57 am
#79
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: AA, DL, Avis, Enterprise, National, IHG, HH, SPG/MR
Posts: 1,852
There's something I'm really failing to 'get' concerning overheads. Given that there is one overhead per seat, and that they seem to handle the correct number of correctly sized bags, why do we run out of overhead space?
It seems to me that if they enforce carry on bag size, that they could do so in a way that guarantees sufficient overhead space with not too complicated correct placement of bags. So, why not?
I was on a flight Thursday where Easyjet made a lot of people check their carry-ons. (Not me fortunately).
It seems to me that if they enforce carry on bag size, that they could do so in a way that guarantees sufficient overhead space with not too complicated correct placement of bags. So, why not?
I was on a flight Thursday where Easyjet made a lot of people check their carry-ons. (Not me fortunately).
The problem is people choose flights solely on cost. So to be competitive and still turn an acceptable profit, airlines have to cram more seats in. Obviously the number of overheads does not increase correspondingly, so the result is a shortage of overhead space.
Jun 17, 2017 | 1:16 pm
#80
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Mass
Programs: Independent
Posts: 4,863
Well, look at the math. Seat pitch today runs about 33in. Actually less, but it makes the math easier. If a row had 3 seats in it, that would mean 3 bags to fit in 33in, or 11in per bag. Even wheels first, the bag width is 14in maximum, meaning you are 6 in short every row. Multiply that by 22 rows, you end up with 132in per side short. That's over 9 bags a side! And that does not take into account space lost to bin side wall and other stuff stored in the overhead. It's actually pretty amazing that they so few bags end up having to get gate checked.
And every inch that they reduce seat pitch means another 2 or 3 bags per side have to go into the hold. Those edge loading bins suddenly start to look really good.
And every inch that they reduce seat pitch means another 2 or 3 bags per side have to go into the hold. Those edge loading bins suddenly start to look really good.
Jun 17, 2017 | 2:55 pm
#81
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: EMA (how boring) but BHX is more convenient.
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What equipment on what airline has one overhead bin per row? Every flight I've been on, the bin straddles two rows, meaning you'll run out of space eventually.
The problem is people choose flights solely on cost. So to be competitive and still turn an acceptable profit, airlines have to cram more seats in. Obviously the number of overheads does not increase correspondingly, so the result is a shortage of overhead space.
The problem is people choose flights solely on cost. So to be competitive and still turn an acceptable profit, airlines have to cram more seats in. Obviously the number of overheads does not increase correspondingly, so the result is a shortage of overhead space.
They could specify smaller bags so that six would fit per locker, but they would be considerably smaller bags. I guess that if one airline did that, then people would consider the small carry-on a competitive disadvantage. So, we get lack of overhead space, and some bags going in the hold.