Ever self-upgraded to E+?
Nov 10, 2014 | 2:12 pm
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Ever self-upgraded to E+?
I recently flew FLL-EWR and booked myself in a cheap Y seat. I noticed the flight was more than 50% empty, so I noticed an E+ row that was completely empty on the seat map minutes before departure, and moved to that row. Didn't get any heat from the flight attendants.
Nov 10, 2014 | 2:38 pm
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If so, sounds like you had a crew that didn't notice or was not inclined to ask you to pony up $$$ that you should have paid, or been entitled to with status.
Many, many threads on this topic over the years, including
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...t=self-upgrade
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...t=self-upgrade
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...t=self-upgrade
Nov 10, 2014 | 2:55 pm
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IME, DL does a good job keeping pax who did not pay out of EC seats. I've heard announcements on numerous occasions that non-EC pax can move around, but not to the EC seats with gray headrests.
Nov 10, 2014 | 3:03 pm
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I'm unfamiliar with this mythical 50% full flight. 
On every UA flight I've been on in the past 3-4 years, nearly every seat is occupied: no one is self-upgrading anywhere.
On every UA flight I've been on in the past 3-4 years, nearly every seat is occupied: no one is self-upgrading anywhere.
Nov 10, 2014 | 3:22 pm
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I was on a flight on AA, had an empty row by myself in "main cabin extra" (their version of E+) and prior to takeoff another lady moved into the row with me. I had the window, she took the aisle.
I was somewhat unhappy at having another person, but whatever.
I was somewhat unhappy at having another person, but whatever.
Nov 10, 2014 | 3:41 pm
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Nov 10, 2014 | 4:02 pm
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The fun games we play on airplanes....
Nov 10, 2014 | 4:13 pm
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It's a completely empty row, therefore affecting exactly ZERO people other than OP himself.
I'm slightly amazed at the rush to defend airlines after they do their best to work us over day after day after day for things that were standard 10 years ago.
Dear OP: I would do the same thing and not think twice about it. If anyone has a serious problem with it they really need to take a moment and think for a second. It's different if someone moves into an already-occupied row, but seriously...we're all in cattle class, some of us are in marginally better cattle class, don't be so godawfully miserable.
I'm slightly amazed at the rush to defend airlines after they do their best to work us over day after day after day for things that were standard 10 years ago.
Dear OP: I would do the same thing and not think twice about it. If anyone has a serious problem with it they really need to take a moment and think for a second. It's different if someone moves into an already-occupied row, but seriously...we're all in cattle class, some of us are in marginally better cattle class, don't be so godawfully miserable.
Nov 10, 2014 | 4:24 pm
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That is because if 50% of the flights are at 50% load and 50% of the flights are at 100% load, 67% of the passengers are on full flights even though half the flights are empty. Or a similar calculation. 
If 50% of the flights are at 25% load and 50% of the flights are at 100% load, 80% of the passengers are on full flights even though half the flights are empty!
If 50% of the flights are at 25% load and 50% of the flights are at 100% load, 80% of the passengers are on full flights even though half the flights are empty!
Nov 10, 2014 | 4:48 pm
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Dear OP: I would do the same thing and not think twice about it. If anyone has a serious problem with it they really need to take a moment and think for a second. It's different if someone moves into an already-occupied row, but seriously...we're all in cattle class, some of us are in marginally better cattle class, don't be so godawfully miserable.
Nov 10, 2014 | 5:16 pm
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So you stole something and got away with it?
Nov 10, 2014 | 5:18 pm
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That is because if 50% of the flights are at 50% load and 50% of the flights are at 100% load, 67% of the passengers are on full flights even though half the flights are empty. Or a similar calculation.
If 50% of the flights are at 25% load and 50% of the flights are at 100% load, 80% of the passengers are on full flights even though half the flights are empty!
If 50% of the flights are at 25% load and 50% of the flights are at 100% load, 80% of the passengers are on full flights even though half the flights are empty!
"Figures don't lie; liars figure!"
