Passenger etiquette - Window Shade
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If you can't be bothered to be a decent human being for me and put your window shade down when the sun is in my eyes, then I simply can't be bothered to get up for you when you need to run to the potty. Afterall, why should my enjoyment of the flight be trumped for yours? Isn't that what the "this is my window and I'll do what I god damn well please" people say?
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I wouldn't actually do this, I'm just pointing out the apparent idiocy behind that assertion, and the fact that payback can be a b.....
Like it or not, that's not "your" window - it's the airline's window and more pointedly, the cabin crew's window. You're not in your house or your car, you're in a shared communal space. If you know it's bothering someone, why keep it open? (Because you're entitled, right?)
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I wouldn't actually do this, I'm just pointing out the apparent idiocy behind that assertion, and the fact that payback can be a b.....
Like it or not, that's not "your" window - it's the airline's window and more pointedly, the cabin crew's window. You're not in your house or your car, you're in a shared communal space. If you know it's bothering someone, why keep it open? (Because you're entitled, right?)
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I tend to find flying very drying, so even trying to hydrate, I'll often only get up twice on a TPAC. For me, windows are ideal.
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i am not a platinum or a silver or whatever. i cannot even get my medical supplies loaded in the cabin with me. that's for the elites. get a bulkhead seat, get serious. get an aisle seat, get serious. actually, i usually end up in the back of a md 80 next to the engine.
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Since I like playing with fire, here's some more kindlin'...
Does the same apply to the aisle seat occupant? Primary control of the aisle rests with them, so if you need to use the facilities, well you'll just have to wait until I'm done writing my email / brushing my teeth / clipping my toenails / you get the idea
Does the same apply to the aisle seat occupant? Primary control of the aisle rests with them, so if you need to use the facilities, well you'll just have to wait until I'm done writing my email / brushing my teeth / clipping my toenails / you get the idea
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i am not a platinum or a silver or whatever. i cannot even get my medical supplies loaded in the cabin with me. that's for the elites. get a bulkhead seat, get serious. get an aisle seat, get serious. actually, i usually end up in the back of a md 80 next to the engine.
For that matter, if I got stuck in the aisle because you had the window and you were waking me up every hour to pee, at about hour #2 or 3 you'd probably get given the choice of either swapping seats with me or having to try to step over me.
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im thankful that this issue has been brought up. very common and sometimes very hard to diffuse.
Fellow pax should understand that closing the shade of someone who is directly in front of it is rude and condescending. If you wish to request that the shade be closed when you are not in the seat in front of it, you need to be humble in the request and understand YOU ARE NOT entitled to demand it.
Someone who is not willing to be assertive about their rights does not give the aggressor the right to take advantage of the situation.
Fellow pax should understand that closing the shade of someone who is directly in front of it is rude and condescending. If you wish to request that the shade be closed when you are not in the seat in front of it, you need to be humble in the request and understand YOU ARE NOT entitled to demand it.
Someone who is not willing to be assertive about their rights does not give the aggressor the right to take advantage of the situation.