Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Jul 22, 2018, 8:23 am
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10. Boeing’s 720 was extremely popular amongst Middle Eastern airlines. Just off the top of my head I can think of 7 middle eastern airlines that operated it. And yet, the 720 was an extremely rare sight at both Dubai and Doha in 1976. Just a single airline served each airport with the 720. Identify that airline.
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1st guess - Saudia
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1st guess - Saudia
Jul 22, 2018, 9:25 am
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20. Identify the two longest flights operated in North America by Boeing 727s. Each flight serves the same destination airport but originates from different airports and is operated by different airlines.
NA TPA-LAX identified. Now looking for the Eastern route into either TPA or LAX (Not ATL-LAX)
Based on the question as stated, it would be arriving in LAX, so my guess would be MIA-LAX, as Eastern had a large hub out of Miami. However, as widebodies had already made their appearance by this time, it would probably be a once a week thing only.
Welcome back, Teddy! MIA to LAX is a fine guess as Northeast showed it could certainly be done with a 727-100 some years earlier. However, by 1978 MIA-LAX was exclusively served by widebodied aircraft. That said, you are getting closer. Please guess again!
NA TPA-LAX identified. Now looking for the Eastern route into either TPA or LAX (Not ATL-LAX)
Based on the question as stated, it would be arriving in LAX, so my guess would be MIA-LAX, as Eastern had a large hub out of Miami. However, as widebodies had already made their appearance by this time, it would probably be a once a week thing only.
Welcome back, Teddy! MIA to LAX is a fine guess as Northeast showed it could certainly be done with a 727-100 some years earlier. However, by 1978 MIA-LAX was exclusively served by widebodied aircraft. That said, you are getting closer. Please guess again!
Jul 22, 2018, 9:34 am
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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1978 NORTH AMERICAN OAG
19. It’s time to fly from Miami back home to Milwaukee. What a shame that Northwest is on strike given that they offer the only nonstop service up to Milwaukee. Not so says the travel agent. There’s another airline – a relative newcomer to the market – that offers a single daily nonstop flight from MIA direct to MKE. The only downside is that the flight departs Miami at the dreadful hour of 3:00am. Good lord! Who would ever fly at that time of night? Insomniacs?! There’s not even a meal served! Given the affordable night coach price however, it’s too good of a deal to pass up. Identify the airline and aircraft involved here.
Ah, not RC, you say, as they had not quite come into existence back then. Well, that is indeed true.....and I think we can safely rule out Hughes Airwest here as well......
So perhaps we once again have a route example of service operated by that "blue duck" air carrier: North Central. If so, this would also be a rare example of NC operating a red eye flight.
Indeed it would, JL. Under newly deregulated skies Herman had spread his wings to Miami, albeit in the middle of the night. Here's the northbound schedule out of MIA:
NC 31 Miami (MIA) 300a – 455a Milwaukee (MKE)
Equipment: D9S
Frequency: Daily
21. It’s been a chilly week in Peoria, Illinois so when the boss calls and asks if you’d be willing to willing to spend a few days in sunny Santa Monica, California on a sales and service call with one of your company’s largest customers, you’re only too happy to accept. A quick consult with your trusty pocket flight guide reveals to your great surprise a single daily one stop flight direct from Peoria to LAX. Oh yeah! Gotta love these new post deregulation times! Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop if you please.
I seem to recall that following deregulation of the industry Continental did institute new service into several smaller markets and that Peoria (PIA) was one of them. So let's go with CO operating a B727-200. As for the intermediate stop, I really want to say Denver (DEN). However, I think it actually may have been Kansas City (MCI).
Continental via Kansas City is correct! Here's the schedule:
CO 31 Peoria (PIA) 300p – 354p S Kansas City (MCI) 425p – 537p D Los Angeles (LAX)
Eq. 727-100
Fr. Daily
19. It’s time to fly from Miami back home to Milwaukee. What a shame that Northwest is on strike given that they offer the only nonstop service up to Milwaukee. Not so says the travel agent. There’s another airline – a relative newcomer to the market – that offers a single daily nonstop flight from MIA direct to MKE. The only downside is that the flight departs Miami at the dreadful hour of 3:00am. Good lord! Who would ever fly at that time of night? Insomniacs?! There’s not even a meal served! Given the affordable night coach price however, it’s too good of a deal to pass up. Identify the airline and aircraft involved here.
Ah, not RC, you say, as they had not quite come into existence back then. Well, that is indeed true.....and I think we can safely rule out Hughes Airwest here as well......
So perhaps we once again have a route example of service operated by that "blue duck" air carrier: North Central. If so, this would also be a rare example of NC operating a red eye flight.Indeed it would, JL. Under newly deregulated skies Herman had spread his wings to Miami, albeit in the middle of the night. Here's the northbound schedule out of MIA:
NC 31 Miami (MIA) 300a – 455a Milwaukee (MKE)
Equipment: D9S
Frequency: Daily
21. It’s been a chilly week in Peoria, Illinois so when the boss calls and asks if you’d be willing to willing to spend a few days in sunny Santa Monica, California on a sales and service call with one of your company’s largest customers, you’re only too happy to accept. A quick consult with your trusty pocket flight guide reveals to your great surprise a single daily one stop flight direct from Peoria to LAX. Oh yeah! Gotta love these new post deregulation times! Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop if you please.
I seem to recall that following deregulation of the industry Continental did institute new service into several smaller markets and that Peoria (PIA) was one of them. So let's go with CO operating a B727-200. As for the intermediate stop, I really want to say Denver (DEN). However, I think it actually may have been Kansas City (MCI).
Continental via Kansas City is correct! Here's the schedule:
CO 31 Peoria (PIA) 300p – 354p S Kansas City (MCI) 425p – 537p D Los Angeles (LAX)
Eq. 727-100
Fr. Daily
Jul 22, 2018, 9:48 am
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10. Boeing’s 720 was extremely popular amongst Middle Eastern airlines. Just off the top of my head I can think of 7 middle eastern airlines that operated it. And yet, the 720 was an extremely rare sight at both Dubai and Doha in 1976. Just a single airline served each airport with the 720. Identify that airline.
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1st guess - Saudia
First guess is the correct guess, KT ^. Saudia operated its Boeing 720s into Doha with single once weekly flights from Dhahran and Abu Dhabi while Dubai received three once weekly flights from Dhahran and one each from Jeddah and Karachi.
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1st guess - Saudia
First guess is the correct guess, KT ^. Saudia operated its Boeing 720s into Doha with single once weekly flights from Dhahran and Abu Dhabi while Dubai received three once weekly flights from Dhahran and one each from Jeddah and Karachi.
Jul 23, 2018, 9:32 am
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I was tempted to add some hints but decided against it. Judging by past performances, you guys (I'm assuming you're all guys as I've yet to meet any of the fairer sex who cared the slightest about schedules, aircraft types or airline history) are waaaay too well versed in these things to not be able to get most any question here started with at least a well educated guess. That said, if any of you would prefer a different style of questions, please feel free to get involved and challenge us with a set of your own. I'm sure we would all appreciate the variety. Hat's off to jlemon, jrl767 and JoeDTW for their contributions so far ^
THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1976 INTERNATIONAL OAG
1. As the proprietor of Lisbon’s most respected wine shop, one of the most pleasantly anticipated parts of Rafael’s job is getting to fly down to Chile - the seventh-largest wine-producing country in the world - to personally inspect and sample each of the year’s latest offerings. In keeping with his station in life, he always flies First Class. This year, he’s found an especially appealing itinerary that involves two airlines – one in each direction. Each airline offers a unique four-stop itinerary with no commonality between the two routes. Additionally, each airline operates a different aircraft type, each aircraft built by a different manufacturer. No widebodied aircraft are involved. Identify each airline, the aircraft it flies and the unique 4-stop route it flies between LIS and SCL and back.
2. Angus is thrilled to discover that his upcoming flight from Edinburgh, Scotland will be aboard the largest passenger aircraft currently flying out of EDI in 1976. Identify the aircraft type and where Angus will be flying to.
3. Rolf is the executive chef for one of the world’s leading hotel chains. His job has him traveling all over the world. At present he’s teaching a course for the staff at his chain’s Fiji resort property when a cable arrives requesting his immediate presence in Denpasar, Indonesia. The hotel there will be hosting a summit of Indonesia’s largest mining conglomerates and the home office would like him to whip up something special for the occasion. Nadi to Denpasar… man, oh man… that could take a day or more to travel. But no! As luck would have it, there’s a single once-weekly one stop flight departing Nadi early tomorrow morning. A change of gauge is required at the enroute stop, and he’ll arrive Jakarta tomorrow afternoon. Please identify the airline, the enroute stop and the two aircraft types involved.
5. In 1976, Mexico City was generally deemed worthy of larger aircraft on international flights. As such, despite the proximity of the US and Central America, twin jets operating international flights were rarely seen at MEX. A couple of airlines operated BAC-111s and of course AeroMexico had its DC-9s but only one airline operated the 737 into Mexico City. Identify that airline and the airport it served MEX from.
7. This African airline had only two flights listed in the 1976 International OAG I reference for these questions. One flight operated from its home base to London and the other flight operated the return flight. Stops were made in Nairobi and Entebbe northbound and in the reverse southbound. Identify the airline, its home base and the equipment it operated on these flights.
9. Lance is enjoying the sun and surf at Miami Beach when headquarters calls and informs him that he’s needed in Paris as soon as possible. Uh… would that be Paris, Texas or Paris, France? The latter, I’m afraid. Well dang! On a positive note, there’s a First Class seat available that very evening aboard a widebodied jet operating nonstop from MIA into ORY. Identify the airline and aircraft Lance will be flying upon.
11. Peru was the first Latin American country to establish diplomatic relations with Japan, in June 1873. Peru was also the first Latin American country to accept Japanese immigration. Hideki’s family has lived in Lima since 1954. However, he still has relatives back in Japan including his beloved Grandmother Kimiko whom he loves to visit once a year. Thankfully flying back to Japan is a joy thanks to a direct two-stop flight. The only downside is that the flight is operated in an all-economy class configuration on the day he’d like to travel. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing for Hideki’s flight between Lima and Tokyo.
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12. 14 year old Seamus loves to bicycle down to Dublin Airport on Saturdays to engage in one of his favorite hobbies: Plane spotting. His favorite airplane is the Vickers Viscount. While other wince and cover their ears at the approach of the Viscount, Seamus loves the ear splitting whine of its four Rolls Royce Dart engines. Four airlines operate the Viscount into Dublin in 1976. Can you identify them?
13. Stan is delivering a yacht from Suva, Fiji to Apia, Western Samoa when he gets a call on his super-secret satellite phone (Sshhh! Not a word to anyone about this!) that his special skills are needed on an assignment in Chicago. ASAP please. Consulting his maps and whatever else was used in 1976 to figure out where you’re at, Stan informs his contact that he’s a little more than half way to Samoa. There ain’t much out here with an airport worthy of anything larger than a seaplane. Checking his maps, he sees that Wallis Island is only a couple hundred miles to his north. Any chance of catching a flight out of there? After an annoyingly long hold, his contact gets back to him with news that if he can get into Wallis by February 21st, there’s a flight out to another Pacific island from where he can make far more connections. If he doesn’t make that one, the next flight out of WLS isn’t until February 4th, in which case he might as well sail on to Samoa. Surprisingly, the flight is operated by a jet but unfortunately for Stan who stands 6’7” tall, there is no First Class offered on the flight. Identify the only airline that flies into Wallis Island – albeit only once every couple of weeks – and the aircraft type operated. Feel free to have a go at the destination of that flight as well if you wish.
14. One day per week, this flight originates in Tokyo and terminates in Mahe, Seychelles Islands. Along the way it makes two stops. Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be served along the daylight journey. As booked and enjoyed in the comfort of First Class, this just might be “The Perfect Flight”. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the two intermediate stops.
15. Rio de Janeiro is truly South America’s gateway to Africa with nonstop flights across the Atlantic to five African destinations. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – is to identify the five cities served and then figure out which airlines serve each route. One of the African cities is only a technical stop used by two airlines with no scheduled flights listed between GIG and it.
THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1978 NORTH AMERICAN OAG
17. Jerry was looking forward to yet another fun weekend of sun and surf off his home beach in La Jolla, California when he got a call from his old college roommate. “Hey Dude – how would you and Sara like to join me and Jen for a weekend of skiing at Alta? I won a free weekend for 4 complete with a condo and two days’ worth of lift tickets. All you have to do is get to Salt Lake City next Friday!” Dude!!! Right on! A quick check of the schedules reveals a single nonstop flight departing San Diego each morning except Sunday. Jerry quickly reserves two tickets in the First Class cabin. Identify the airline and aircraft he’ll be flying upon.
18. It’s Friday and Jim has just completed a grueling week of work managing the day to day operations at his company Amalgamated Anti-Matter, Inc. While driving home through the Milwaukee suburbs, he once again hears on the radio that a nasty winter storm is heading for Milwaukee and is now due to arrive tomorrow afternoon. Hmm… the Packers are playing the Dolphins in Miami this weekend. Why not get out of town to enjoy a little surf at Miami Beach and a little turf at the Orange Bowl? Oh no! He just remembered that Northwest’s on strike. Again! Well dang! Who else could get him down to South Florida? A quick call to his local travel agent reveals a nicely priced three stop flight that provides First Class service while serving breakfast and a snack along the way. Book it, Jimbo! Identify the airline, aircraft and three enroute stops.
20. Identify the two longest flights operated in North America by Boeing 727s. Each flight serves the same destination airport but originates from different airports and is operated by different airlines.
NA TPA-LAX identified. Now looking for the Eastern route into LAX (Not ATL-LAX)
22. Although Mickey received the flyer in the mail back in September, he wasn’t sure if he could get the time off to attend December’s Phoenix Airliners Collectibles Convention at Scottsdale’s swank Camelback Inn. Well this must be his lucky day because not only has he just found out he’s good to go but he’s also found a seat on a wonderful 4 stop flight from his hometown airport at Pittsburgh direct to Phoenix. The only other option is a nonstop TWA flight but what self-respecting aviation enthusiast would ever want to fly nonstop when a 4-stopper beckons? Not Mickey! Identify the airline, the aircraft and the four enroute stops.
23. For years Phil has been flying nonstop between Denver and Chicago on a variety of DC-10s from Continental and United Airlines but when he discovers that one airline offers an intriguing three stop service direct into Chicago’s O’Hare International, his inner child says “Why Not?” Now well into his forties, Phil has discovered that life can be a lot more exciting when he heeds these crazy impulses. A quick phone call and viola! He’s booked and ready to go tomorrow morning. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three enroute stops.
24. Renaldo is planning his winter vacation to sunny Barbados and dreading the inevitable connection at dreary old JFK or crazy crowded MIA when to his great surprise his travel agent informs him that there’s a nonstop flight operating once a week from Boston straight into Barbados. Book it, please. Identify the airline and the aircraft flown.
25. When it comes to the winter schedule, most airlines operate wide body jets between the US mainland and San Juan, Puerto Rico. At worst you might have to settle for an off peak 707 or 727. But lookee here – one airline operates a twin engine jet on a single daily nonstop flight from the mainland - late at night no less! Identify the route, the airline and the aircraft operated.
26. It’s another lousy day in Paradise when Thurston gets a call from his yachting buddy asking if he’d care to join him and the girls while delivering a new catamaran from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Barbuda, way out in the Leeward Islands of the West Indies. Hmm… sounds like a boatload of fun! After requesting that his girlfriend “Lovey” fix him yet another deliciously chilled Mai Tai, he consults his trusty OAG to figure out how he’s going to get from Honolulu to San Juan. There’s no rush – he doesn’t need to be in San Juan until next Friday.
Oooo – that looks nice! - a three flight journey involving three airlines, all of them operating standard DC-8s. Thurston will fly nonstop from Honolulu to the first connecting point, overnight there, then catch a one stop flight to the next connection point where he’ll again overnight before boarding the final DC-8 nonstop into San Juan. Identify the three airlines involved as well as the routings – including the intermediate stop – for each flight.
28. George needs to be in Omaha by noon on Wednesday. If not, he may lose out on the deal of a lifetime to buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird being sold at an estate sale in nearby Bellevue, Nebraska. A call to his travel agent on Manhattan’s Lower East Side reveals that the early morning connections through O’Hare are sold out for some reason and so he’ll have to consider other options. What’s this? There’s a direct flight departing Newark at 6:25am that’ll get him into Omaha at 10:31am. It makes two enroute stops but dang, that’ll work and as an added bonus the flight offers FN/YN service so he can fly First Class for the price of coach. Well, dang… Book it, Danno! First Class, please. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing of George’s flight.
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29. Following a wonderful Christmas vacation in Barbados, it’s time for Lowell and his family to return home to their comparatively slovenly digs in Kingston, Jamaica. Space is tight but a check with his local travel agent reveals that if he and his family are willing to fly on December 27th, a Friday when nobody generally wants to travel, he’ll have a choice of two flights – one operated with a jet, the other operated with a turboprop that per the schedule takes just 45 minutes longer. The price is right so Lowell decides to book the afternoon turboprop flight. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – it to identify the airline and aircraft upon which Lowell decided to fly. You can do this, Mon!
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30. 13 year old Harry lives nearby Tucson International Airport and loves to ride his bike out to the airport to watch the incoming and departing jetliners. Harry is particularly enamored of McDonnell Douglas built aircraft and so has managed to compile a listing of every Long Beach, California built aircraft in order of size arriving and departing Tucson each day. There are two models involved, one of which has different variants. Can you match Harry’s listing – from smallest to largest – of each McDonnell-Douglas built aircraft along with the airline(s) that operated each type into Tucson? It’s not necessary to list which airports these flights originated from but feel free to guess if you like.
HINT: The three models of DC-9s have been identified. Now we're looking for some variant of the DC-8 and its operator.
THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1976 INTERNATIONAL OAG
1. As the proprietor of Lisbon’s most respected wine shop, one of the most pleasantly anticipated parts of Rafael’s job is getting to fly down to Chile - the seventh-largest wine-producing country in the world - to personally inspect and sample each of the year’s latest offerings. In keeping with his station in life, he always flies First Class. This year, he’s found an especially appealing itinerary that involves two airlines – one in each direction. Each airline offers a unique four-stop itinerary with no commonality between the two routes. Additionally, each airline operates a different aircraft type, each aircraft built by a different manufacturer. No widebodied aircraft are involved. Identify each airline, the aircraft it flies and the unique 4-stop route it flies between LIS and SCL and back.
2. Angus is thrilled to discover that his upcoming flight from Edinburgh, Scotland will be aboard the largest passenger aircraft currently flying out of EDI in 1976. Identify the aircraft type and where Angus will be flying to.
3. Rolf is the executive chef for one of the world’s leading hotel chains. His job has him traveling all over the world. At present he’s teaching a course for the staff at his chain’s Fiji resort property when a cable arrives requesting his immediate presence in Denpasar, Indonesia. The hotel there will be hosting a summit of Indonesia’s largest mining conglomerates and the home office would like him to whip up something special for the occasion. Nadi to Denpasar… man, oh man… that could take a day or more to travel. But no! As luck would have it, there’s a single once-weekly one stop flight departing Nadi early tomorrow morning. A change of gauge is required at the enroute stop, and he’ll arrive Jakarta tomorrow afternoon. Please identify the airline, the enroute stop and the two aircraft types involved.
5. In 1976, Mexico City was generally deemed worthy of larger aircraft on international flights. As such, despite the proximity of the US and Central America, twin jets operating international flights were rarely seen at MEX. A couple of airlines operated BAC-111s and of course AeroMexico had its DC-9s but only one airline operated the 737 into Mexico City. Identify that airline and the airport it served MEX from.
7. This African airline had only two flights listed in the 1976 International OAG I reference for these questions. One flight operated from its home base to London and the other flight operated the return flight. Stops were made in Nairobi and Entebbe northbound and in the reverse southbound. Identify the airline, its home base and the equipment it operated on these flights.
9. Lance is enjoying the sun and surf at Miami Beach when headquarters calls and informs him that he’s needed in Paris as soon as possible. Uh… would that be Paris, Texas or Paris, France? The latter, I’m afraid. Well dang! On a positive note, there’s a First Class seat available that very evening aboard a widebodied jet operating nonstop from MIA into ORY. Identify the airline and aircraft Lance will be flying upon.
11. Peru was the first Latin American country to establish diplomatic relations with Japan, in June 1873. Peru was also the first Latin American country to accept Japanese immigration. Hideki’s family has lived in Lima since 1954. However, he still has relatives back in Japan including his beloved Grandmother Kimiko whom he loves to visit once a year. Thankfully flying back to Japan is a joy thanks to a direct two-stop flight. The only downside is that the flight is operated in an all-economy class configuration on the day he’d like to travel. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing for Hideki’s flight between Lima and Tokyo.
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12. 14 year old Seamus loves to bicycle down to Dublin Airport on Saturdays to engage in one of his favorite hobbies: Plane spotting. His favorite airplane is the Vickers Viscount. While other wince and cover their ears at the approach of the Viscount, Seamus loves the ear splitting whine of its four Rolls Royce Dart engines. Four airlines operate the Viscount into Dublin in 1976. Can you identify them?
13. Stan is delivering a yacht from Suva, Fiji to Apia, Western Samoa when he gets a call on his super-secret satellite phone (Sshhh! Not a word to anyone about this!) that his special skills are needed on an assignment in Chicago. ASAP please. Consulting his maps and whatever else was used in 1976 to figure out where you’re at, Stan informs his contact that he’s a little more than half way to Samoa. There ain’t much out here with an airport worthy of anything larger than a seaplane. Checking his maps, he sees that Wallis Island is only a couple hundred miles to his north. Any chance of catching a flight out of there? After an annoyingly long hold, his contact gets back to him with news that if he can get into Wallis by February 21st, there’s a flight out to another Pacific island from where he can make far more connections. If he doesn’t make that one, the next flight out of WLS isn’t until February 4th, in which case he might as well sail on to Samoa. Surprisingly, the flight is operated by a jet but unfortunately for Stan who stands 6’7” tall, there is no First Class offered on the flight. Identify the only airline that flies into Wallis Island – albeit only once every couple of weeks – and the aircraft type operated. Feel free to have a go at the destination of that flight as well if you wish.
14. One day per week, this flight originates in Tokyo and terminates in Mahe, Seychelles Islands. Along the way it makes two stops. Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be served along the daylight journey. As booked and enjoyed in the comfort of First Class, this just might be “The Perfect Flight”. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the two intermediate stops.
15. Rio de Janeiro is truly South America’s gateway to Africa with nonstop flights across the Atlantic to five African destinations. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – is to identify the five cities served and then figure out which airlines serve each route. One of the African cities is only a technical stop used by two airlines with no scheduled flights listed between GIG and it.
THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1978 NORTH AMERICAN OAG
17. Jerry was looking forward to yet another fun weekend of sun and surf off his home beach in La Jolla, California when he got a call from his old college roommate. “Hey Dude – how would you and Sara like to join me and Jen for a weekend of skiing at Alta? I won a free weekend for 4 complete with a condo and two days’ worth of lift tickets. All you have to do is get to Salt Lake City next Friday!” Dude!!! Right on! A quick check of the schedules reveals a single nonstop flight departing San Diego each morning except Sunday. Jerry quickly reserves two tickets in the First Class cabin. Identify the airline and aircraft he’ll be flying upon.
18. It’s Friday and Jim has just completed a grueling week of work managing the day to day operations at his company Amalgamated Anti-Matter, Inc. While driving home through the Milwaukee suburbs, he once again hears on the radio that a nasty winter storm is heading for Milwaukee and is now due to arrive tomorrow afternoon. Hmm… the Packers are playing the Dolphins in Miami this weekend. Why not get out of town to enjoy a little surf at Miami Beach and a little turf at the Orange Bowl? Oh no! He just remembered that Northwest’s on strike. Again! Well dang! Who else could get him down to South Florida? A quick call to his local travel agent reveals a nicely priced three stop flight that provides First Class service while serving breakfast and a snack along the way. Book it, Jimbo! Identify the airline, aircraft and three enroute stops.
20. Identify the two longest flights operated in North America by Boeing 727s. Each flight serves the same destination airport but originates from different airports and is operated by different airlines.
NA TPA-LAX identified. Now looking for the Eastern route into LAX (Not ATL-LAX)
22. Although Mickey received the flyer in the mail back in September, he wasn’t sure if he could get the time off to attend December’s Phoenix Airliners Collectibles Convention at Scottsdale’s swank Camelback Inn. Well this must be his lucky day because not only has he just found out he’s good to go but he’s also found a seat on a wonderful 4 stop flight from his hometown airport at Pittsburgh direct to Phoenix. The only other option is a nonstop TWA flight but what self-respecting aviation enthusiast would ever want to fly nonstop when a 4-stopper beckons? Not Mickey! Identify the airline, the aircraft and the four enroute stops.
23. For years Phil has been flying nonstop between Denver and Chicago on a variety of DC-10s from Continental and United Airlines but when he discovers that one airline offers an intriguing three stop service direct into Chicago’s O’Hare International, his inner child says “Why Not?” Now well into his forties, Phil has discovered that life can be a lot more exciting when he heeds these crazy impulses. A quick phone call and viola! He’s booked and ready to go tomorrow morning. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three enroute stops.
24. Renaldo is planning his winter vacation to sunny Barbados and dreading the inevitable connection at dreary old JFK or crazy crowded MIA when to his great surprise his travel agent informs him that there’s a nonstop flight operating once a week from Boston straight into Barbados. Book it, please. Identify the airline and the aircraft flown.
25. When it comes to the winter schedule, most airlines operate wide body jets between the US mainland and San Juan, Puerto Rico. At worst you might have to settle for an off peak 707 or 727. But lookee here – one airline operates a twin engine jet on a single daily nonstop flight from the mainland - late at night no less! Identify the route, the airline and the aircraft operated.
26. It’s another lousy day in Paradise when Thurston gets a call from his yachting buddy asking if he’d care to join him and the girls while delivering a new catamaran from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Barbuda, way out in the Leeward Islands of the West Indies. Hmm… sounds like a boatload of fun! After requesting that his girlfriend “Lovey” fix him yet another deliciously chilled Mai Tai, he consults his trusty OAG to figure out how he’s going to get from Honolulu to San Juan. There’s no rush – he doesn’t need to be in San Juan until next Friday.
Oooo – that looks nice! - a three flight journey involving three airlines, all of them operating standard DC-8s. Thurston will fly nonstop from Honolulu to the first connecting point, overnight there, then catch a one stop flight to the next connection point where he’ll again overnight before boarding the final DC-8 nonstop into San Juan. Identify the three airlines involved as well as the routings – including the intermediate stop – for each flight.
28. George needs to be in Omaha by noon on Wednesday. If not, he may lose out on the deal of a lifetime to buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird being sold at an estate sale in nearby Bellevue, Nebraska. A call to his travel agent on Manhattan’s Lower East Side reveals that the early morning connections through O’Hare are sold out for some reason and so he’ll have to consider other options. What’s this? There’s a direct flight departing Newark at 6:25am that’ll get him into Omaha at 10:31am. It makes two enroute stops but dang, that’ll work and as an added bonus the flight offers FN/YN service so he can fly First Class for the price of coach. Well, dang… Book it, Danno! First Class, please. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing of George’s flight.
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29. Following a wonderful Christmas vacation in Barbados, it’s time for Lowell and his family to return home to their comparatively slovenly digs in Kingston, Jamaica. Space is tight but a check with his local travel agent reveals that if he and his family are willing to fly on December 27th, a Friday when nobody generally wants to travel, he’ll have a choice of two flights – one operated with a jet, the other operated with a turboprop that per the schedule takes just 45 minutes longer. The price is right so Lowell decides to book the afternoon turboprop flight. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – it to identify the airline and aircraft upon which Lowell decided to fly. You can do this, Mon!
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30. 13 year old Harry lives nearby Tucson International Airport and loves to ride his bike out to the airport to watch the incoming and departing jetliners. Harry is particularly enamored of McDonnell Douglas built aircraft and so has managed to compile a listing of every Long Beach, California built aircraft in order of size arriving and departing Tucson each day. There are two models involved, one of which has different variants. Can you match Harry’s listing – from smallest to largest – of each McDonnell-Douglas built aircraft along with the airline(s) that operated each type into Tucson? It’s not necessary to list which airports these flights originated from but feel free to guess if you like.
HINT: The three models of DC-9s have been identified. Now we're looking for some variant of the DC-8 and its operator.
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29. Following a wonderful Christmas vacation in Barbados, it’s time for Lowell and his family to return home to their comparatively slovenly digs in Kingston, Jamaica. Space is tight but a check with his local travel agent reveals that if he and his family are willing to fly on December 27th, a Friday when nobody generally wants to travel, he’ll have a choice of two flights – one operated with a jet, the other operated with a turboprop that per the schedule takes just 45 minutes longer. The price is right so Lowell decides to book the afternoon turboprop flight. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – it to identify the airline and aircraft upon which Lowell decided to fly. You can do this, Mon!
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20. Identify the two longest flights operated in North America by Boeing 727s. Each flight serves the same destination airport but originates from different airports and is operated by different airlines.
NA TPA-LAX identified. Now looking for the Eastern route into LAX (Not ATL-LAX)
"Closer" in the same response to a guess of MIA kinda sounds like Ft Lauderdale (FLL)
But alas, it's not. Still, Miami is closer than Mexico City, and I suppose Tampa would be even closer to the airport we're looking for....
29. Following a wonderful Christmas vacation in Barbados, it’s time for Lowell and his family to return home to their comparatively slovenly digs in Kingston, Jamaica. Space is tight but a check with his local travel agent reveals that if he and his family are willing to fly on December 27th, a Friday when nobody generally wants to travel, he’ll have a choice of two flights – one operated with a jet, the other operated with a turboprop that per the schedule takes just 45 minutes longer. The price is right so Lowell decides to book the afternoon turboprop flight. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – it to identify the airline and aircraft upon which Lowell decided to fly. You can do this, Mon!
I think I may be pushing the envelope here ... how about Cubana operating an Ilyushin IL-18?
Consider your envelope signed, sealed and delivered J ^. Here's the schedule:
Cubana CU 455 Barbados (BGI) 250p-520p Kingston (KIN)
Aircraft: Ilyushin IL-18
Frequency: Friday
NA TPA-LAX identified. Now looking for the Eastern route into LAX (Not ATL-LAX)
"Closer" in the same response to a guess of MIA kinda sounds like Ft Lauderdale (FLL)
But alas, it's not. Still, Miami is closer than Mexico City, and I suppose Tampa would be even closer to the airport we're looking for....
29. Following a wonderful Christmas vacation in Barbados, it’s time for Lowell and his family to return home to their comparatively slovenly digs in Kingston, Jamaica. Space is tight but a check with his local travel agent reveals that if he and his family are willing to fly on December 27th, a Friday when nobody generally wants to travel, he’ll have a choice of two flights – one operated with a jet, the other operated with a turboprop that per the schedule takes just 45 minutes longer. The price is right so Lowell decides to book the afternoon turboprop flight. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – it to identify the airline and aircraft upon which Lowell decided to fly. You can do this, Mon!
I think I may be pushing the envelope here ... how about Cubana operating an Ilyushin IL-18?
Consider your envelope signed, sealed and delivered J ^. Here's the schedule:
Cubana CU 455 Barbados (BGI) 250p-520p Kingston (KIN)
Aircraft: Ilyushin IL-18
Frequency: Friday
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11. Peru was the first Latin American country to establish diplomatic relations with Japan, in June 1873. Peru was also the first Latin American country to accept Japanese immigration. Hideki’s family has lived in Lima since 1954. However, he still has relatives back in Japan including his beloved Grandmother Kimiko whom he loves to visit once a year. Thankfully flying back to Japan is a joy thanks to a direct two-stop flight. The only downside is that the flight is operated in an all-economy class configuration on the day he’d like to travel. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing for Hideki’s flight between Lima and Tokyo.
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11. Peru was the first Latin American country to establish diplomatic relations with Japan, in June 1873. Peru was also the first Latin American country to accept Japanese immigration. Hideki’s family has lived in Lima since 1954. However, he still has relatives back in Japan including his beloved Grandmother Kimiko whom he loves to visit once a year. Thankfully flying back to Japan is a joy thanks to a direct two-stop flight. The only downside is that the flight is operated in an all-economy class configuration on the day he’d like to travel. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing for Hideki’s flight between Lima and Tokyo.
In 1976, I'm thinking this may have been Varig (RG) operating a Boeing 707. As for the two stops, definitely Los Angeles (LAX) and perhaps Anchorage (ANC) as the first stop with the latter being a technical stop.
Answered like a true Japanese/Peruvian expat. Here's the schedule:
VARIG RG 830 Lima (LIM) 110a-640a Los Angeles (LAX) 830a-1130a Anchorage (ANC) 1250p-320p Tokyo (HND)
Aircraft: Boeing 707
Frequency: Mon Thu
In 1976, I'm thinking this may have been Varig (RG) operating a Boeing 707. As for the two stops, definitely Los Angeles (LAX) and perhaps Anchorage (ANC) as the first stop with the latter being a technical stop.
Answered like a true Japanese/Peruvian expat. Here's the schedule:
VARIG RG 830 Lima (LIM) 110a-640a Los Angeles (LAX) 830a-1130a Anchorage (ANC) 1250p-320p Tokyo (HND)
Aircraft: Boeing 707
Frequency: Mon Thu
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11. And I should have said Anchorage was the second stop as the honorable Mr. Hideki was actually traveling to Tokyo......
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30. 13 year old Harry lives nearby Tucson International Airport and loves to ride his bike out to the airport to watch the incoming and departing jetliners. Harry is particularly enamored of McDonnell Douglas built aircraft and so has managed to compile a listing of every Long Beach, California built aircraft in order of size arriving and departing Tucson each day. There are two models involved, one of which has different variants. Can you match Harry’s listing – from smallest to largest – of each McDonnell-Douglas built aircraft along with the airline(s) that operated each type into Tucson? It’s not necessary to list which airports these flights originated from but feel free to guess if you like.
HINT: The DC-9-30 served Tucson via two different airlines from nine different airports
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23. For years Phil has been flying nonstop between Denver and Chicago on a variety of DC-10s from Continental and United Airlines but when he discovers that one airline offers an intriguing three stop service direct into Chicago’s O’Hare International, his inner child says “Why Not?” Now well into his forties, Phil has discovered that life can be a lot more exciting when he heeds these crazy impulses. A quick phone call and viola! He’s booked and ready to go tomorrow morning. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three enroute stops.
28. George needs to be in Omaha by noon on Wednesday. If not, he may lose out on the deal of a lifetime to buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird being sold at an estate sale in nearby Bellevue, Nebraska. A call to his travel agent on Manhattan’s Lower East Side reveals that the early morning connections through O’Hare are sold out for some reason and so he’ll have to consider other options. What’s this? There’s a direct flight departing Newark at 6:25am that’ll get him into Omaha at 10:31am. It makes two enroute stops but dang, that’ll work and as an added bonus the flight offers FN/YN service so he can fly First Class for the price of coach. Well, dang… Book it, Danno! First Class, please. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing of George’s flight.
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30. 13 year old Harry lives nearby Tucson International Airport and loves to ride his bike out to the airport to watch the incoming and departing jetliners. Harry is particularly enamored of McDonnell Douglas built aircraft and so has managed to compile a listing of every Long Beach, California built aircraft in order of size arriving and departing Tucson each day. There are two models involved, one of which has different variants. Can you match Harry’s listing – from smallest to largest – of each McDonnell-Douglas built aircraft along with the airline(s) that operated each type into Tucson? It’s not necessary to list which airports these flights originated from but feel free to guess if you like.
HINT: The DC-9-30 served Tucson via two different airlines from nine different airports
Well, you know what? For the life of me, I cannot think of one airline that ever operated the DC-8 into Tucson (TUS). That includes United. So I will eliminate the DC-8 from consideration. Now as for the DC-9-10 and DC-9-30, I know Hughes Airwest (RW) operated both types into TUS so there's my first response. I also believe Aeromexico (AM) served Tucson with the DC-9-30, so there's airline number two. And this brings us once again to that "blue duck" airline: North Central (NC). Back in the 1970's, I was sitting in the back of a Continental B727-200 that was taxiing out for take off at Tucson. I was en route to LAX from AUS with stops at MAF, ELP and TUS. Looking out of the window of the 72S as we waited to be cleared onto the runway, I noticed a rather long DC-9 just moments from touching down in Tucson. It was a DC-9-50 with a blue duck on the tail. So there's air carrier number three. And as for the largest McDonnell Douglas aircraft type serving TUS at this time, let's go with American (AA) operating a DC-10-10. That's four.
You're off to a great start here JL, having correctly identified all of the DC-9 family operators into Tucson. (RW DC-9, AM/RW D9S, NC D95) And although Tucson has indeed seen many services from American's DC-10s, per the OAG I referenced for this question there were surprisingly no DC-10s serving Tucson during the period it referenced. By default then, we know we're looking for a DC-8 of some variant. This flight came into Tucson, stopped briefly and then continued on to another airport where it turned around and returned to its point of origin once again via Tucson. Care to have another guess as to which airline and variant we're talking about here?
HINT: The DC-9-30 served Tucson via two different airlines from nine different airports
Well, you know what? For the life of me, I cannot think of one airline that ever operated the DC-8 into Tucson (TUS). That includes United. So I will eliminate the DC-8 from consideration. Now as for the DC-9-10 and DC-9-30, I know Hughes Airwest (RW) operated both types into TUS so there's my first response. I also believe Aeromexico (AM) served Tucson with the DC-9-30, so there's airline number two. And this brings us once again to that "blue duck" airline: North Central (NC). Back in the 1970's, I was sitting in the back of a Continental B727-200 that was taxiing out for take off at Tucson. I was en route to LAX from AUS with stops at MAF, ELP and TUS. Looking out of the window of the 72S as we waited to be cleared onto the runway, I noticed a rather long DC-9 just moments from touching down in Tucson. It was a DC-9-50 with a blue duck on the tail. So there's air carrier number three. And as for the largest McDonnell Douglas aircraft type serving TUS at this time, let's go with American (AA) operating a DC-10-10. That's four.
You're off to a great start here JL, having correctly identified all of the DC-9 family operators into Tucson. (RW DC-9, AM/RW D9S, NC D95) And although Tucson has indeed seen many services from American's DC-10s, per the OAG I referenced for this question there were surprisingly no DC-10s serving Tucson during the period it referenced. By default then, we know we're looking for a DC-8 of some variant. This flight came into Tucson, stopped briefly and then continued on to another airport where it turned around and returned to its point of origin once again via Tucson. Care to have another guess as to which airline and variant we're talking about here?
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Way to wade in and tackle the tough ones!
23. For years Phil has been flying nonstop between Denver and Chicago on a variety of DC-10s from Continental and United Airlines but when he discovers that one airline offers an intriguing three stop service direct into Chicago’s O’Hare International, his inner child says “Why Not?” Now well into his forties, Phil has discovered that life can be a lot more exciting when he heeds these crazy impulses. A quick phone call and viola! He’s booked and ready to go tomorrow morning. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three enroute stops.
Three stops ... let's try an airline whose logo also featured three of something -- swallows: Ozark with a DC-9-30 operating via Sioux Falls (FSD), Sioux City (SUX), and Moline (MLI)
An excellent guess there, J, and one that if I didn't know better I would also have guessed first. But - as it turns out we're looking for a different airline operating a different jet over a different routing. Please - guess again!
28. George needs to be in Omaha by noon on Wednesday. If not, he may lose out on the deal of a lifetime to buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird being sold at an estate sale in nearby Bellevue, Nebraska. A call to his travel agent on Manhattan’s Lower East Side reveals that the early morning connections through O’Hare are sold out for some reason and so he’ll have to consider other options. What’s this? There’s a direct flight departing Newark at 6:25am that’ll get him into Omaha at 10:31am. It makes two enroute stops but dang, that’ll work and as an added bonus the flight offers FN/YN service so he can fly First Class for the price of coach. Well, dang… Book it, Danno! First Class, please. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing of George’s flight.
I think the only airlines serving both EWR and OMA in 1978 were American, Braniff, and United; both AA and UA operated thru ORD, so let's say a colorful BN 727-27 stopping at Nashville (BNA) and Kansas City (MCI)
Oooo - I like it! But unfortunately in this instance the airline in question was not Braniff, nor was the aircraft a 727-100. Please, do guess again!
Three stops ... let's try an airline whose logo also featured three of something -- swallows: Ozark with a DC-9-30 operating via Sioux Falls (FSD), Sioux City (SUX), and Moline (MLI)
An excellent guess there, J, and one that if I didn't know better I would also have guessed first. But - as it turns out we're looking for a different airline operating a different jet over a different routing. Please - guess again!
28. George needs to be in Omaha by noon on Wednesday. If not, he may lose out on the deal of a lifetime to buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird being sold at an estate sale in nearby Bellevue, Nebraska. A call to his travel agent on Manhattan’s Lower East Side reveals that the early morning connections through O’Hare are sold out for some reason and so he’ll have to consider other options. What’s this? There’s a direct flight departing Newark at 6:25am that’ll get him into Omaha at 10:31am. It makes two enroute stops but dang, that’ll work and as an added bonus the flight offers FN/YN service so he can fly First Class for the price of coach. Well, dang… Book it, Danno! First Class, please. Identify the airline, aircraft and routing of George’s flight.
I think the only airlines serving both EWR and OMA in 1978 were American, Braniff, and United; both AA and UA operated thru ORD, so let's say a colorful BN 727-27 stopping at Nashville (BNA) and Kansas City (MCI)
Oooo - I like it! But unfortunately in this instance the airline in question was not Braniff, nor was the aircraft a 727-100. Please, do guess again!
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23- well, maybe a Braniff 727 plays here: Oklahoma City (OKC), Wichita (ICT), and Kansas City (MCI)
27- forgot about Eastern ... let's try a DC-9-30 via Washington National (DCA) and St. Louis (STL)
27- forgot about Eastern ... let's try a DC-9-30 via Washington National (DCA) and St. Louis (STL)
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