Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Feb 11, 2017, 2:05 am
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8. In 1975, what did Kamloops and Kelowna in B.C. share in common with regard to their nonstop service from Vancouver operated by Pacific Western? The answer concerns the equipment operated into Kamloops and Kelowna at this time by PW
I do not believe that Pacific Western ever operated the Convair 600....but they did fly the Convair 640 as mentioned by jrl767 in his response to this quiz item.
At any rate, the CV-640 is not the equipment we are looking for here....nor is any type of turboprop aircraft for that matter.
I need to read these responses more thoroughly. Sorry about that! If the answer is equipment related and it wasn't a prop, let's go with a 727-100 which PW ran for awhile.
I do not believe that Pacific Western ever operated the Convair 600....but they did fly the Convair 640 as mentioned by jrl767 in his response to this quiz item.
At any rate, the CV-640 is not the equipment we are looking for here....nor is any type of turboprop aircraft for that matter.
I need to read these responses more thoroughly. Sorry about that! If the answer is equipment related and it wasn't a prop, let's go with a 727-100 which PW ran for awhile.
Feb 11, 2017, 1:16 pm
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8. In 1975, what did Kamloops and Kelowna in B.C. share in common with regard to their nonstop service from Vancouver operated by Pacific Western? The answer concerns the equipment operated into Kamloops and Kelowna at this time by PW
Nope, the equipment was not a Boeing 727-100. However, you are very close!
Very close, eh... well so far as I know, PW never ever operated the 727-200, and the 707 was used for charter only work. The 767 was still a few years away... By 1975 timeline, I can't think of any other aircraft options for them... I have postcards of all these aircraft and if PW ever operated a 727-200, that would've been a nice looking airplane - one I'd put a little extra effort into finding a postcard of... So, very close... How about a Trident? No, no! Just kidding! Honestly, I'm at a loss here...
Nope, the equipment was not a Boeing 727-100. However, you are very close!
Very close, eh... well so far as I know, PW never ever operated the 727-200, and the 707 was used for charter only work. The 767 was still a few years away... By 1975 timeline, I can't think of any other aircraft options for them... I have postcards of all these aircraft and if PW ever operated a 727-200, that would've been a nice looking airplane - one I'd put a little extra effort into finding a postcard of... So, very close... How about a Trident? No, no! Just kidding! Honestly, I'm at a loss here...
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38. Well, according to the April 15, 1975 North American OAG, Pacific Western was indeed operating Boeing 727-200 equipment. Kamloops and Kelowna were the only two destinations served by PW with both the stretched 727 and the Boeing 737-200 at this time specifically on services to Vancouver. Here are the 72S schedules...
PW 304: Kamloops (YKA) 7:40p - 8:15p Vancouver (YVR)
Op: Daily except Saturdays and Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 304 operated on Sundays with 73S equipment (same sched)
PW 306: Kelowna (YLW) 9:40a - 10:15a Vancouver (YVR)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 306 operated on Sundays with a 73S (YLW 1:40p - 2:15p YVR)
The Boeing 727-200 as operated by Pacific Western also shows up elsewhere in this OAG, specifically into Calgary. Here are some scheds...
PW 528: Edmonton Intl. (YEG) 5:15p - 5:50p Calgary (YYC)
Op: Wednesdays and Fridays only
Equip: 72S
PW 532: Edmonton Intl. (YEG) 6:30p - 7:05p Calgary (YYC)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: 72S
PW 524: Edmonton Intl. (YEG) 11:45p - 12:20a Calgary (YYC)
Op: Tuesdays and Thursdays only
Equip: 72S
PW 303: Kamloops (YKA) 9:55p - 11:45p Calgary (YYC)
Op: Daily except Saturdays and Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 303 operated with 73S equipment on Sundays (YKA 8:15p - 10:05p YYC)
PW 305: Kelowna (YLW) 9:40a - 11:30a Calgary (YYC)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 305 operated with 73S equipment on Sundays (YLW 12:45p - 2:35p YYC)
It also appears Pacific Western was operating one stop 72S service twice a day between YVR and YYC and this time via a stop at either YKA or YLW.
PW 304: Kamloops (YKA) 7:40p - 8:15p Vancouver (YVR)
Op: Daily except Saturdays and Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 304 operated on Sundays with 73S equipment (same sched)
PW 306: Kelowna (YLW) 9:40a - 10:15a Vancouver (YVR)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 306 operated on Sundays with a 73S (YLW 1:40p - 2:15p YVR)
The Boeing 727-200 as operated by Pacific Western also shows up elsewhere in this OAG, specifically into Calgary. Here are some scheds...
PW 528: Edmonton Intl. (YEG) 5:15p - 5:50p Calgary (YYC)
Op: Wednesdays and Fridays only
Equip: 72S
PW 532: Edmonton Intl. (YEG) 6:30p - 7:05p Calgary (YYC)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: 72S
PW 524: Edmonton Intl. (YEG) 11:45p - 12:20a Calgary (YYC)
Op: Tuesdays and Thursdays only
Equip: 72S
PW 303: Kamloops (YKA) 9:55p - 11:45p Calgary (YYC)
Op: Daily except Saturdays and Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 303 operated with 73S equipment on Sundays (YKA 8:15p - 10:05p YYC)
PW 305: Kelowna (YLW) 9:40a - 11:30a Calgary (YYC)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: 72S
Note: PW 305 operated with 73S equipment on Sundays (YLW 12:45p - 2:35p YYC)
It also appears Pacific Western was operating one stop 72S service twice a day between YVR and YYC and this time via a stop at either YKA or YLW.
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Hmmmmm.....the weekend is slipping away as we continue to work on our home following the Great Looziana Flood of August 2016. Hopefully, we'll be able to move back in by the end of the month in time for Mardi Gras on Feb. 28 (Fat Tuesday). We shall see......
So, as promised, here's a bonus quiz item as the sun sets on a beautiful Sunday afternoon.
Please note this is not an "all or nothing" quiz item. In fact, it would be great if respondents would confine themselves to just two segments at a time in order for all to hopefully participate.
The time line is 1983 and you are in Perth, Australia. You've decided to take a westbound trip around the world with all flights taking place in the southern hemisphere. You'll also get to spend some time in each connecting city. Each segment will be operated by a different airline. Please identify the airline and the aircraft type for each segment as well as the intermediate en route stop or stops if noted in the specific segment:
1. Perth to Johannesburg via one intermediate stop in Mauritius.
South African Airways B747
2. Johannesburg to Rio de Janeiro via one intermediate stop in Cape Town.
VARIG DC-10-30
3. Rio de Janeiro to Santiago via two intermediate stops in Sao Paulo (VCP) and Montevideo with a morning departure and an afternoon arrival.
KLM Royal Dutch DC-10-30
4. Santiago to Papeete via one intermediate stop at Easter Island.
LAN-Chile B707-320
5. Papeete to Auckland with nonstop service.
UTA DC-10-30
6. Auckland to Sydney with nonstop service with a morning departure and arrival.
Continental DC-10-30
7. Sydney to Perth with nonstop service with an evening departure and arrival.
Trans-Australia Airlines (TAA) B727-200
Some hints here. Two of these flights were operated with narrow body equipment and a third flight was operated by a U.S. based airline with a wide body aircraft type.
So, as promised, here's a bonus quiz item as the sun sets on a beautiful Sunday afternoon.
Please note this is not an "all or nothing" quiz item. In fact, it would be great if respondents would confine themselves to just two segments at a time in order for all to hopefully participate.
The time line is 1983 and you are in Perth, Australia. You've decided to take a westbound trip around the world with all flights taking place in the southern hemisphere. You'll also get to spend some time in each connecting city. Each segment will be operated by a different airline. Please identify the airline and the aircraft type for each segment as well as the intermediate en route stop or stops if noted in the specific segment:
1. Perth to Johannesburg via one intermediate stop in Mauritius.
South African Airways B747
2. Johannesburg to Rio de Janeiro via one intermediate stop in Cape Town.
VARIG DC-10-30
3. Rio de Janeiro to Santiago via two intermediate stops in Sao Paulo (VCP) and Montevideo with a morning departure and an afternoon arrival.
KLM Royal Dutch DC-10-30
4. Santiago to Papeete via one intermediate stop at Easter Island.
LAN-Chile B707-320
5. Papeete to Auckland with nonstop service.
UTA DC-10-30
6. Auckland to Sydney with nonstop service with a morning departure and arrival.
Continental DC-10-30
7. Sydney to Perth with nonstop service with an evening departure and arrival.
Trans-Australia Airlines (TAA) B727-200
Some hints here. Two of these flights were operated with narrow body equipment and a third flight was operated by a U.S. based airline with a wide body aircraft type.
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Feb 12, 2017, 5:06 pm
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1. Perth to ________ via one intermediate stop.
2. _______ to ______ via one intermediate stop.
3. _______ to ______ via two intermediate stops with a morning departure and an afternoon arrival.
4. _______ to ______ via one intermediate stop.
5. _______ to ______ with nonstop service.
6. _______ to ______ with nonstop service with a morning departure and arrival.
7. _______ to Perth with nonstop service with an evening departure and arrival.
2. _______ to ______ via one intermediate stop.
3. _______ to ______ via two intermediate stops with a morning departure and an afternoon arrival.
4. _______ to ______ via one intermediate stop.
5. _______ to ______ with nonstop service.
6. _______ to ______ with nonstop service with a morning departure and arrival.
7. _______ to Perth with nonstop service with an evening departure and arrival.
4. SCL to PPT via IPC on a LAN Chile 707
6. AKL to SYD on a Pan Am 747-200
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1- Perth (PER) to Johannesburg (JNB) via Mauritius, QANTAS 747
2- JNB to Rio de Janeiro (GIG?) via Cape Town, South African 747
2- JNB to Rio de Janeiro (GIG?) via Cape Town, South African 747
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LA 133: Santiago (SCL) 12:30p - 4:30p Easter Island (IPC) 5:30p - 7:40p Papeete (PPT)
Op: Wednesdays only
Equip: 707
And here's yet another bonus quiz item: why did the U.S. government pay to lengthen the runway at Easter Island during the 1980's? We are looking for a specific reason here.
6. Pan Am was indeed operating nonstop service from Auckland to Sydney at this time. Here's the sched.....
PA 811: Auckland (AKL) 9:00a - 10:20a Sydney (SYD)
Op: Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays only
Equip: 747
However, our intrepid traveler chose a different flight operated by another airline which departed earlier than the Pan Am service. This flight operated on Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays only and three classes of service were offered. Of course, our man was in first class on this flight. Care to guess again?
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2. South African Airways (SAA) was indeed operating flights from Johannesburg to Rio de Janeiro via Cape Town at this time and the equipment was a Boeing 747SP. Here's the sched....
SA 205: Johannesburg (JNB) 10:15a - 12:15p Cape Town (CPT) 1:15p - 4:40p Rio de Janeiro (GIG)
Op: Sundays only
Equip: 74L
However, since our man had arrived in JNB on a Tuesday, he wanted to depart to South America several days earlier on a Friday. So he chose another airline. Please guess again!
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emergency landing site for Space Shuttle launches that were planned to take place at Vandenberg AFB
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1. Well, you've got the routing and the aircraft type right...however, the airline was not QANTAS.
2. South African Airways (SAA) was indeed operating flights from Johannesburg to Rio de Janeiro via Cape Town at this time and the equipment was a Boeing 747SP. Here's the sched....
SA 205: Johannesburg (JNB) 10:15a - 12:15p Cape Town (CPT) 1:15p - 4:40p Rio de Janeiro (GIG)
Op: Sundays only
Equip: 74L
However, since our man had arrived in JNB on a Tuesday, he wanted to depart to South America several days earlier on a Friday. So he chose another airline. Please guess again!
2. South African Airways (SAA) was indeed operating flights from Johannesburg to Rio de Janeiro via Cape Town at this time and the equipment was a Boeing 747SP. Here's the sched....
SA 205: Johannesburg (JNB) 10:15a - 12:15p Cape Town (CPT) 1:15p - 4:40p Rio de Janeiro (GIG)
Op: Sundays only
Equip: 74L
However, since our man had arrived in JNB on a Tuesday, he wanted to depart to South America several days earlier on a Friday. So he chose another airline. Please guess again!
2- this can't be SA, so most probably VARIG, operating a 747-200
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However, following the Challenger disaster, the plan to operate the space shuttles from Vandenberg was dropped and the orbiters were never launched from Space Launch Complex Six (SLC-6) on the California coast. BTW, it was also planned to have the shuttles land back at Vandenberg following return from orbit and the runway at the base was lengthened to 15,000 feet with this in mind.
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6. Pan Am was indeed operating nonstop service from Auckland to Sydney at this time. Here's the sched.....
PA 811: Auckland (AKL) 9:00a - 10:20a Sydney (SYD)
Op: Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays only
Equip: 747
However, our intrepid traveler chose a different flight operated by another airline which departed earlier than the Pan Am service. This flight operated on Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays only and three classes of service were offered. Of course, our man was in first class on this flight. Care to guess again?
PA 811: Auckland (AKL) 9:00a - 10:20a Sydney (SYD)
Op: Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays only
Equip: 747
However, our intrepid traveler chose a different flight operated by another airline which departed earlier than the Pan Am service. This flight operated on Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays only and three classes of service were offered. Of course, our man was in first class on this flight. Care to guess again?