Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Nov 26, 2014, 8:35 am
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8. In 1966, this airline was offering a joint service twice a week from Lima, Peru to Montreal in association with another air carrier. Airline #1 flew the service from Lima to New York City with three intermediate stops being made en route. A connection was then made to airline #2 which flew nonstop to Montreal from NYC using a different equipment type. These joint schedules appeared in airline #1's system timetable. Name both air carriers and the identify of the respective aircraft types they operated on the joint service. And for bonus points, name all three intermediate stops made by airline #1 between Lima and New York City.
Wild guess time - Eastern and Braniff cooperated on a couple of domestic interchanges, so let's assume they did here as well. To wit, I'll go with Braniff operating a DC-8 routing.... Lima-Quito-Panama City-Miami-New York JFK connecting to Eastern operating a 720 up to Montreal.
Wish me luck!
Wild guess time - Eastern and Braniff cooperated on a couple of domestic interchanges, so let's assume they did here as well. To wit, I'll go with Braniff operating a DC-8 routing.... Lima-Quito-Panama City-Miami-New York JFK connecting to Eastern operating a 720 up to Montreal.
Wish me luck!
And such is the case here. The two air carriers were not Braniff International and Eastern. So here's a hint: both airlines in question were not U.S. air carriers.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:18 pm
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8. In 1966, this airline was offering a joint service twice a week from Lima, Peru to Montreal in association with another air carrier. Airline #1 flew the service from Lima to New York City with three intermediate stops being made en route. A connection was then made to airline #2 which flew nonstop to Montreal from NYC using a different equipment type. These joint schedules appeared in airline #1's system timetable. Name both air carriers and the identify of the respective aircraft types they operated on the joint service. And for bonus points, name all three intermediate stops made by airline #1 between Lima and New York City.
Here's a hint: Both airlines in question were not U.S. air carriers.
Hmm... well, I remember Lufthansa being the answer to one of my questions regarding nonstop service from Kingston to New York. I recall that flight had originated in Santiago though. BOAC would be another consideration, routing through some combination of western Caribbean destinations - of which they served many. Air Canada's the only one I can think of that would fit the bill for NYC-YUL...
Given the Commonwealth ties, let's go with BOAC and Air Canada with BA routing Lima - Quito - Montego Bay - Nassau - New York with a ... 707 connecting to an Air Canada DC-8 between New York JFK and Montreal.
Here's a hint: Both airlines in question were not U.S. air carriers.
Hmm... well, I remember Lufthansa being the answer to one of my questions regarding nonstop service from Kingston to New York. I recall that flight had originated in Santiago though. BOAC would be another consideration, routing through some combination of western Caribbean destinations - of which they served many. Air Canada's the only one I can think of that would fit the bill for NYC-YUL...
Given the Commonwealth ties, let's go with BOAC and Air Canada with BA routing Lima - Quito - Montego Bay - Nassau - New York with a ... 707 connecting to an Air Canada DC-8 between New York JFK and Montreal.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:38 pm
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8. An excellent guess from Seat 2A!
The two air carriers were BOAC and Air Canada.
Montego Bay and Nassau are also correct with regard to two of three intermediate stops. However, Quito was not the other stop.
As for equipment, BOAC was not operating a 707 on the route from Lima to New York City and Air Canada was not operating a DC-8 from NYC to Montreal.
So please guess again!
The two air carriers were BOAC and Air Canada.
Montego Bay and Nassau are also correct with regard to two of three intermediate stops. However, Quito was not the other stop.
As for equipment, BOAC was not operating a 707 on the route from Lima to New York City and Air Canada was not operating a DC-8 from NYC to Montreal.
So please guess again!
Nov 26, 2014, 12:57 pm
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I was wondering about that Quito stop as I can't seem to recall BA serving Ecuador or even Panama...
Well then, let's go straight up to the Caribbean with Lima-Kingston-Montego Bay-Nassau-New York with a VC10. As for Air Canada, if it wasn't a DC-8, then it could well have been a DC-9-30.
Well then, let's go straight up to the Caribbean with Lima-Kingston-Montego Bay-Nassau-New York with a VC10. As for Air Canada, if it wasn't a DC-8, then it could well have been a DC-9-30.
Nov 26, 2014, 2:00 pm
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20. What was the total number of Convair 880 aircraft operated by Alaska Airlines?
21. What was the total number of Convair 990 aircraft operated by Alaska Airlines?
I can't help but suspect that you must've saved them for me because everybody knows that Alaska only had one of each type, especially a group as knowledgeable as yourselves. Thanks for the tap in!
21. What was the total number of Convair 990 aircraft operated by Alaska Airlines?
I can't help but suspect that you must've saved them for me because everybody knows that Alaska only had one of each type, especially a group as knowledgeable as yourselves. Thanks for the tap in!
Alaska maintained this approach of having an oddball jet for the summer high season period, from 1970 to 1975 they always leased an old 707/720, a different one each year, to supplement their capacity.
Nov 26, 2014, 2:09 pm
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I was wondering about that Quito stop as I can't seem to recall BA serving Ecuador or even Panama...
Well then, let's go straight up to the Caribbean with Lima-Kingston-Montego Bay-Nassau-New York with a VC10. As for Air Canada, if it wasn't a DC-8, then it could well have been a DC-9-30.
Well then, let's go straight up to the Caribbean with Lima-Kingston-Montego Bay-Nassau-New York with a VC10. As for Air Canada, if it wasn't a DC-8, then it could well have been a DC-9-30.
Nov 26, 2014, 2:31 pm
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Alaska had a Convair jet for most of the 1960s. Their first jet was a new Cv880 for summer 1961, which they kept until the end of 1966, selling it to Cathay Pacific when their first pair of new 727s came along. Just a few months later they reconsidered that, and bought a Cv990 in early 1967 from Varig, which they operated in the summer (it was leased out to South America in the winter), until the end of 1969 when it was sold to Seattle-neighbour Modern Air Transport, who sent it over to Berlin and ran holiday flights from there down to the Mediterranean with it.
Alaska maintained this approach of having an oddball jet for the summer high season period, from 1970 to 1975 they always leased an old 707/720, a different one each year, to supplement their capacity.
Alaska maintained this approach of having an oddball jet for the summer high season period, from 1970 to 1975 they always leased an old 707/720, a different one each year, to supplement their capacity.
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Nov 26, 2014, 2:36 pm
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I was wondering about that Quito stop as I can't seem to recall BA serving Ecuador or even Panama...
Well then, let's go straight up to the Caribbean with Lima-Kingston-Montego Bay-Nassau-New York with a VC10. As for Air Canada, if it wasn't a DC-8, then it could well have been a DC-9-30.
Well then, let's go straight up to the Caribbean with Lima-Kingston-Montego Bay-Nassau-New York with a VC10. As for Air Canada, if it wasn't a DC-8, then it could well have been a DC-9-30.
Nov 26, 2014, 2:38 pm
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You are most definitely on the right track, sir.....
Nov 26, 2014, 2:42 pm
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8. You are just about there! BOAC was indeed operating a Vickers VC10 on the route. In fact, the aircraft was a Super VC10. And the three intermediate stops en route on the specific flight in question were Kingston, Montego Bay and Nassau. However, the Air Canada aircraft was not a DC9-30.
Nov 26, 2014, 2:54 pm
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Hmm... now that I think of it, DC-9-30s weren't even in service back in '66. Alright then, so we're looking for Vickers equipment... I should imagine they'd want something with a First Class cabin for those who'd paid the premium fare all the way through so let's go with the Vanguard.
Here's the sched....
BA 684: Lima 6:15a - 10:30a Kingston 11:15a - 11:45a Montego Bay 12:15p - 1:35p Nassau 2:20p - 6:00p New York City (I believe that BA 684 then continued on to London)
Op: Wednesdays and Sundays only
Equip: Super VC10
Connecting to.....
AC 625: New York City 7:35p - 9:05p Montreal
Op: (I believe this flight operated daily)
Equip: Vanguard
And BA 684 connected to another Air Canada flight as well.....
AC 593: New York City 7:50p - 9:35p Toronto
Op: (I believe this flight also operated daily)
Equip: Vanguard
Nov 26, 2014, 3:12 pm
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The following quiz item has a time line of 1965:
6. This airline was operating a milk run route at this time once a week every Sunday from Reno to Los Angeles. This flight departed RNO at 5:20am and arrived at LAX at 11:20am. Eight intermediate stops were made en route. Identify the air carrier, all eight stops in the order in which they were made and the equipment flown on the service.
The above quiz item remains unanswered......great job by all concerned thus far! ^
And here we are about ready to embark upon the long Thanksgiving holiday weekend in the U.S. The weather in south Louisiana is wonderful at present with clear blue skies, temps around 70 degrees F, low humidity and gusty winds out of the southwest - our front and backyards are completely covered with colorful fall leaves from our trees with more yet to come.
So if you are traveling this holiday (and thank goodness we are not!) I wish you safe travels and a great Thanksgiving!
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Nov 26, 2014, 3:40 pm
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22. What was the total number of Boeing 720B aircraft operated by Alaska Airlines?
Alright then, so we're looking for Vickers equipment
http://www.brooklandsmuseum.com/
(If interested have a look at the museum videoclip on that page)
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Nov 26, 2014, 4:05 pm
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OK, I'll have a go at this one - zero
Well over here the turkeys are safe for another month. As for the weather - London City has had its worst day for a long time, hardly anything got in, due to low cloud that not only enveloped the tops of high buildings but even the top half of construction cranes. Missed approaches powering up into the cloud again all day long, although when it get like this many flights do not even set off unless there's a reasonable forecast for LCY.
When we have the much-vaunted OTAAQ Do in London, we'll visit the factory in Weybridge (near Heathrow), now one of our aircraft museums, and see all these fine old types.
http://www.brooklandsmuseum.com/
Well over here the turkeys are safe for another month. As for the weather - London City has had its worst day for a long time, hardly anything got in, due to low cloud that not only enveloped the tops of high buildings but even the top half of construction cranes. Missed approaches powering up into the cloud again all day long, although when it get like this many flights do not even set off unless there's a reasonable forecast for LCY.
When we have the much-vaunted OTAAQ Do in London, we'll visit the factory in Weybridge (near Heathrow), now one of our aircraft museums, and see all these fine old types.
http://www.brooklandsmuseum.com/
And as for the Boeing 720B question concerning Alaska Air, zero is incorrect!
Nov 26, 2014, 5:42 pm
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