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Old Jul 10, 2021, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
39. We're looking at NW & TW with a DC-9-30 YEG-MSP-XXX-AUS

Given that I've mentioned DFW a few times in those ruminations, I guess it's time to promote it to an official guess -- D9S; YEG-MSP-DFW (NW), DFW-AUS (TW)

It's not DFW, but you are very close to the correct answer... very close...
39- guessing it’s Houston/IAH, which in terms of geography makes more sense than San Antonio/SAT even though both are “very close” to the same distance from DFW
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Old Jul 10, 2021, 12:33 pm
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44. (1990) Aren’t you the lucky one – owning mansions in both Miami, FL and Palm Springs, CA. Unfortunately, your private jet – a classic 1967 built Lockheed Jetstar – is in for its C-check this month and so alas, you’ll have to fly commercial with (sniff!) those people. You’ve never liked connections what with delays, lost luggage or being recognized by the local paparazzi, so when you discover that there is a single daily three stop direct flight straight from Palm Springs to Miami, you are thrilled. Better yet, it’s got First Class available. Identify the airline, the three enroute stops and the aircraft type please.
44- let’s start with a Continental 727-224, stopping in Denver/DEN, Houston/IAH, and New Orleans/MSY
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Old Jul 10, 2021, 10:35 pm
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39. (1990) You’re preparing to open Edmonton’s first true barbecue restaurant. In an effort to present as many of the world’s great barbecue styles and flavors as possible on your menu, you’ll be traveling to Austin, Texas to learn a bit more about Texas’ mesquite smoked barbecue and in particular some of the tricks they use with their briskets. You travel agent has found you a nice itinerary involving a one stop direct flight to an airport where you’ll connect to a nonstop flight into Austin. The correct answer will require identification of both airlines, the enroute stop of the first flight and the aircraft type, which just happens to be the same for both flights. G’wan, now…
We're looking at NW & TW with a DC-9-30 YEG-MSP-XXX-AUS

Guessing it’s Houston/IAH, which in terms of geography makes more sense than San Antonio/SAT even though both are “very close” to the same distance from DFW

It's not Houston/IAH, but now you're very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very close!
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Old Jul 10, 2021, 10:56 pm
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44. (1990) Aren’t you the lucky one – owning mansions in both Miami, FL and Palm Springs, CA. Unfortunately, your private jet – a classic 1967 built Lockheed Jetstar – is in for its C-check this month and so alas, you’ll have to fly commercial with (sniff!) those people. You’ve never liked connections what with delays, lost luggage or being recognized by the local paparazzi, so when you discover that there is a single daily three stop direct flight straight from Palm Springs to Miami, you are thrilled. Better yet, it’s got First Class available. Identify the airline, the three enroute stops and the aircraft type please.

Let’s start with a Continental 727-224, stopping in Denver/DEN, Houston/IAH, and New Orleans/MSY

Surely you must know that by 1990 Continental was operating 727-224s, -243s, 227s and even some -232s resulting from the merger with People Express. Thanks to my connections with CO's old Fleet Ops Manager, I was able to learn which types CO was operating on this route for every day in 1990. On only 49 days out of 365 was the aircraft assigned a -224 so the odds are that your answer is incorrect.

Yeah, right. Truth be told, we're looking for a different airline operating a different aircraft type over a different routing.

Please, guess again!
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Old Jul 10, 2021, 11:21 pm
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39- 10x “very” suggests VERY strongly that the answer is *either* the other city I mentioned (SAT) or the most geographically proximate to IAH, which would be Houston Hobby/HOU

that said, with respect to recent back-and-forth about clarity and conformity to rules, I will officially guess HOU


44- (1990) PSP-MIA, 3 stops, not CO, not a 72S — let’s try a TWA MD-80 with stops at Ontario/ONT, St. Louis/STL, and Tampa/TPA

(I was not aware that DL divested any of their 727-232 fleet to PE, or that CO had picked up some ex-BN -227s and Alitalia -243s)
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Old Jul 10, 2021, 11:55 pm
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28. (1990) Back in 1976 you flew nonstop from San Francisco to Albuquerque in First Class aboard a Continental 727-200. You still have fond memories of that delicious carrot cake that was sliced and served from the cart to close out the meal. Alas, these days the only nonstop flights between SFO and ABQ are with Southwest aboard all-economy class 737s where all that’s served are bags of peanuts. Ugh! There’s got to be a better way! Following a bit of research, you’ve found one – a two stop direct flight offering a First Class cabin and two snacks enroute. YYYess!! Book it, Danno! First Class, please. Airline, enroute stops and aircraft please.
It's not HP via LAS & PHX. It is a 733...

Well, I think a B737-300 would appear to indicate that the air carrier in question is in reality USAir (and I just may have received some inside info here but, of course, I certainly cannot divulge my inside sources as I would then most likely be PNG'd and have to flee the country). So with that, I shall the guess the two stops were Los Angeles followed by Tucson.

And you would be correct, Sir! This looks like a great way to get to Albuquerque...

US Air US 366 San Francisco (SFO) 900a-1018a S Los Angeles (LAX) 1055a-1212p S Tucson (TUS) 1250p-253p Albuquerque (ABQ) 737-300 Daily
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
39 - I will officially guess HOU

Houston/HOU is correct! Here's the itinerary:

Northwest NW 1022 Edmonton (YEG) 155p-525p S Minneapolis (MSP) 615p-917p D Houston (HOU) DC-9-30 Daily
Trans World TW 639 Houston (HOU) 1001p-1044p Austin (AUS) DC-9-30 Daily

44- (1990) 44. (1990) Aren’t you the lucky one – owning mansions in both Miami, FL and Palm Springs, CA. Unfortunately, your private jet – a classic Lockheed Jetstar – is in for its C-check this month and so alas, you’ll have to fly commercial with (sniff!) those people. You’ve never liked connections what with delays, lost luggage or being recognized by the local paparazzi, so you are thrilled to discover that there is a single daily three stop direct flight straight from Palm Springs to Miami. Better yet, it’s got First Class available. Identify the airline, the three enroute stops and the aircraft type please.

PSP-MIA, 3 stops, not CO, not a 72S — let’s try a TWA MD-80 with stops at Ontario/ONT, St. Louis/STL, and Tampa/TPA

That's the one we're looking for. Here's the itinerary:

Trans World TW 336 Palm Springs (PSP) 135p-204p Ontario (ONT) 241p-816p D St. Louis (STL) 901p-1219a Tampa (TPA) 1244a-130a Miami (MIA) MD80 Daily

(I was not aware that DL divested any of their 727-232 fleet to PE, or that CO had picked up some ex-BN -227s and Alitalia -243s)

continental

Scroll down until you hit the 727 listings
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 12:54 am
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Please attempt no more than two questions per day so that all might have a chance to participate. And please, no double guesses disguised as ongoing ruminations. Additionally, we are looking for complete answers here. If the question calls for identifying three flights or stops, the answer should include three flights or stops. Thanks!

32. (1999) There’s never a bad time to get out of rainy Belfast and head down to sunny Las Palmas for the annual Las Palmas de Gran Canaria carnival. You’ve found a great connection involving two foreign airlines, both of them from the same country but operating different jet equipment. You’ll depart Belfast in the late morning and, following a short one hour connection, arrive in Las Palmas in time for dinner and drinks at your favorite hotel. Identify the airlines, the connection point and the two aircraft types involved.

33. (1989) You’ve had a wonderful time visiting colonial Williamsburg, Virginia and – as a budding botanist – an even better time visiting Williamsburg Busch Gardens. Now it’s time to return home to your job as curator of The Hemingway Home and Museum in Key West, Florida. After locating the closest jet capable airport to Williamsburg, you’ve booked yourself an intriguing three flight itinerary involving three airlines operating three different twin jets – each of them manufactured in a different country. Identify each airline, the two enroute connection points and the three distinct aircraft.
PHF-MCO-MIA-EYW is known, as are PA AB3 for the 2nd segment and US F28 for the 3rd segment. The first airline was a short lived operator of an as yet unidentified twin-jet

36. (1990) It used to be that if you wanted to fly from West Palm Beach to New Orleans you called National Airlines. Not anymore. The sun set on Bud Maytag’s airline when it merged with and subsequently became Pan Am. These days, just a single airline offers a single one-stop direct flight between PBI and MSY each day. Sigh… Very well then. You call your travel agent and arrange to book a seat to MSY. One way only, please. You’ll be driving home. Identify the airline, the single enroute stop and the aircraft.
It's not CO but it is a 733

38. (1990) It used be that if you wanted to fly from Mexico City up to Phoenix, you called Aeronaves de Mexico and hopped on the three-stop DC-9 air tour through central Mexico. That was back in the sixties and seventies though. These days, that flight no longer exists - having been replaced by a convenient – though somewhat late – one stop direct flight. Identify the airline, the single enroute stop and the aircraft type used.

41. (1999) Good Lord! Most all of the flights between Pittsburgh and Tampa are nonstop. Where’s the fun in that?! Thank goodness for the one single airline that operates the only multi-stop direct flights between PIT and TPA with a daily one–stop and a two-stop flight. You’ll take the two stop flight. First Class, please. Whaat? There’s no First Class cabin on the aircraft? Bollocks! Oh well, steerage it is, then. Identify the airline, the two enroute stops and the aircraft type.

42. (1989) It is with much sadness that you’ll be leaving your job as Assistant Manager of the King Kamehameha Hotel in Kona, Hawaii. You’ve made some great friends there over the past three years. Then again, it is with great excitement that you’ll be taking on a new challenge as the Sales Manager of the British Colonial Hilton in Nassau, Bahamas. To get there, you’ve found a three flight itinerary involving a trio of tri-jets operated by three different airlines. One of the aircraft is operated in an all-economy configuration but on the other two flights you’ll be in First Class. One of the flights will be shorter than 200 miles. Identify all three airlines, the equipment type each operates and the routing to be flown.
A N S W E R E D

46. (1990) (The JoeDTW Special) Continental operated a substantial fleet of A300Bs between 1986 and 1995. In late 1990, Continental’s long standing focus city of Denver, Colorado was the recipient of six mostly daily A300 flights – one each from four cities and two flights from one city. Identify each of the five cities please.
LAX, EWR and IAH identified so far...

47. (1999) As an avid photographer of all things related to commercial aviation in Scotland, you love nothing better than to head down to Edinburgh Airport and take up your favorite parking spot out on Lennymuir Rd. where you’ve got a great spot to shoot incoming aircraft landing on runway 24. Your favorite aircraft is the BAe-146/Avro RJ family of 4 engine regional jets. In 1999, EDI is served by five airlines operating this aircraft type. Identify each of the five airlines.

49. (1989) You just love the Airbus A300B. You really can’t explain why exactly – I mean, it’s not even all that attractive of an airplane now, is it – but still, perhaps beauty is in the eye of the beholder and there you have it. In any event, you need to fly from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Montreal, Quebec and you’ve found a way to do so with just two flights – each of them operated daily with A300Bs and each operated by a different airline. There is only one possible routing. Identify it, i.e. the single connection city and the two airlines involved.

50. (1990) It used to be if you wanted to fly between Miami and Sarasota, you called up Bud Maytag’s airline and booked a flight on one of his colorful jets named after women. These days both Bud and his airline are but distant memories. All you’ve got to choose from now between Miami and Sarasota is a bunch of props and a single daily jet departing MIA bright and early each morning. Identify that airline and the jet equipment it operate between MIA and SRQ

Note for July 10th: I will resume responding to your responses sometime tomorrow morning

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Old Jul 11, 2021, 12:55 am
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ooooookay, another time sink

seriously — the fleets section looks like a good resource
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 12:59 am
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 7:11 am
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38. (1990) It used be that if you wan1989) It is with much sadness that you’ll be leaving your job as Assistant Manager of the King Kamehameha Hotel in Kona, Hawaii. You’ve made some great friends there over the past three years. Then again, it is with great excitement that you’ll be taking on a new challenge as the Sales Manager of the British Colonial Hilton in Nassau, Bahamas. To get there, you’ve found a three flight itinerary involving a trio of tri-jets operated by three different airlines. One of the aircraft is operated in an all-economy configuration but on the other two flights you’ll be in First Class. One of the flights will be shorter than 200 miles. Identify all three airlines, the equipment type each operates and the routing to be flown.
We know this: KOA-HNL = UA D10 ~ HNL-YYZ = CP D10 ~ YYZ-NAS = all Y-Class L-1011 (Not Royal or Air Transat)
I somehow remember AC has summer flights to e.g. PIK that were operated in Y-class only config. I do not recall if they had Executive Class (as C was then called) sold as Y or if these were full Y-config aircraft - but somehow recall C was not sold.

So may be answer is as simple as AC?
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 11:09 am
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50. (1990) It used to be if you wanted to fly between Miami and Sarasota, you called up Bud Maytag’s airline and booked a flight on one of his colorful jets named after women. These days both Bud and his airline are but distant memories. All you’ve got to choose from now between Miami and Sarasota is a bunch of props and a single daily jet departing MIA bright and early each morning. Identify that airline and the jet equipment it operate between MIA and SRQ
50- let’s try that TWA MadDog that came in from PSP (Q44)
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 11:49 am
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42. (1989) It is with much sadness that you’ll be leaving your job as assistant manager of the King Kamehameha Hotel in Kona, Hawaii. You’ve made some great friends there over the past three years. Then again, it is with great excitement that you’ll be taking on a new challenge as the sales manager of the British Colonial Hilton in Nassau, Bahamas. To get there, you’ve found a three flight itinerary involving a trio of tri-jets operated by three different airlines. One of the aircraft is operated in an all-economy configuration but on the other two flights you’ll be in First Class. One of the flights will be shorter than 200 miles. Identify all three airlines, the equipment type each operates and the routing to be flown.
We know this: KOA-HNL = UA DC10 ~ HNL-YYZ = CP DC10 ~ YYZ-NAS = All Y-Class L-1011 (not Royal or Air Transat)

I somehow remember AC had summer flights to e.g. PIK that were operated in y-class only config. I do not recall if they had Executive Class (as C was then called) sold as Y or if these were full Y-config aircraft - but somehow recall C was not sold. So may be answer is as simple as AC?

Your memory serves you well, TPJ . Air Canada is correct! indeed, AC schedules often showed all Y Class operations to many destinations in Florida and the Caribbean dating back to the DC-8 days and possibly before. I was always surprised to see 747s showing up as all Y-Class down to Florida back in the seventies, and couldn't help but wonder if they temporarily removed the First Class cabin or simply didn't sell it - although if it was in place aboard the aircraft, why not sell it? Anybody know?

Anyway, here's the itinerary:

United UA 100 Kona (KOA) 850p-933p Honolulu (HNL) dc-10 Sa only
Canadian CP 024 Honolulu (HNL) 1140p-110p b Toronto (YYZ) DC-10 Sa only
Air Canada AC 980 Toronto (YYZ) 445p-745p d Nassau (NAS) L-1011

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Old Jul 11, 2021, 12:03 pm
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50. (1990) It used to be if you wanted to fly between Miami and Sarasota, you called up Bud Maytag’s airline and booked a flight on one of his colorful jets named after women. These days both Bud and his airline are but distant memories. All you’ve got to choose from now between Miami and Sarasota is a bunch of props and a single daily jet departing MIA bright and early each morning. Identify that airline and the jet equipment it operate between MIA and SRQ

Let’s try that TWA MadDog that came in from PSP (Q44)

Although I could easily see TWA operating this route with and MD80, what do I know? Well, in this instance I just happen to know by virtue of having created this question that as reasonable as TWA sounds as the answer, alas - it the answer includes neither TWA nor an MD80.

Please, guess again!
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 11:12 pm
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49. (1989) You just love the Airbus A300B. You really can’t explain why exactly – I mean, it’s not even all that attractive of an airplane now, is it – but still, perhaps beauty is in the eye of the beholder and there you have it. In any event, you need to fly from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Montreal, Quebec and you’ve found a way to do so with just two flights – each of them operated daily with A300Bs and each operated by a different airline. There is only one possible routing. Identify it, i.e. the single connection city and the two airlines involved.
49- I agree that the A300 — either the B2/B4 or the longer B6 — isn’t a particularly visually appealing frame

as for the itinerary in question, let’s try Pan Am to JFK; thence Eastern … no, too easy … Viasa on the shorter transborder flight

50- (1990, MIA-SRQ 1x/day, not a TW M80) how about Braniff II with an A320

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