Originally Posted by jlemon

12) Northwest is correct! Here's the actual schedule:

NW 708: YWG-FAR-MSP-ORD-MIA. Equipment: B727. Remarks: First class featured "Regal Imperial Service" (although I think this service was only offered on the ORD-MIA leg).

Originally Posted by Seat 2A

Wow! Well I hope it dries up a bit for you but then again, it is hurricane season... Up here at Latitude 65, it's sunny and really windy. I watched a man chase after his hat for a good 150 yards this afternoon. It was like something out of an old Buster Keaton movie. The mountain was out though and we had a grizzly bear sow and two cubs walk right past us (we're talkin' like less than 10' away) on the park road. Sweet.

9) In the spring of 1963, what airline operated nonstop DC-8 service from New York Idlewild Airport to Milwaukee?

It's gotta be United. But then Northwest also had DC-8s for awhile. Y'know, I think I'm just gonna go with the red tailed one on this. Northwest. It's my final answer.

11) In the later winter of 1964, what airline operated direct onestop B720B service from Seattle to Honolulu? Also identify the intermediate stop.

Once again, I'm going with Northwest Orient: The Fan-Jet Airline. The intermediate stop was Portland.

15) It's the fall of 1979 and you are in Denver. You need to travel to Peoria, IL (PIA) and you've discovered that two (2) airlines fly DEN-PIA nonstop. However, only one of these airlines offers first class and, of course, that's the one you wish to fly on. Identify both airlines and respective equipment they used on the route.

In January of 1979 I flew aboard an Ozark DC-9-30 nonstop from Denver to Peoria. It was all one class service and included a fairly passable meatloaf dinner. I'd have to go with Unnited as the other airline, operating a 727-22.

16) It's still the fall of 1979 and you are back in Denver following your trip to the exciting small city of Peoria. You've noticed that United Airlines operates a substantial number of stretched Douglas DC-8 Super 61 flights into DEN from various U.S. cities. In fact, you've identified no less than fourteen (14) cities that have nonstop UA D8S service into Denver. Name as many of these cities as you can.

Hmm... okay, well these aren't alphabetical but just as they come to me so let's see...

Chicago
Washington DC
Baltimore
Salt Lake City
Los Angeles
Las Vegas
San Francisco
Seattle
Portland
Milwaukee
Cleveland
New York-Newark
Philadelphia
Omaha

17) Now you have to travel from Denver to Louisville in the fall of 1979. You've discovered that only one airline flies nonstop from DEN to SDF. Identify the airline and the aircraft used on the route.

Did Piedmont fly into Denver in 1979? I hope so because that's who I'm going with, aboard a 727-100.

18) It's the spring of 1981 and you need to travel from Dallas/Ft. Worth (DFW) to New Orleans (MSY). One airline offers wide body service twice a day nonstop from DFW to MSY. Name the air carrier and the aircraft type.

How about Delta on an L-1011?

Originally Posted by WHBM

Northwest sold their DC8s later in 1963, in one of the earliest secondhand jet sales there was, as new 707s came along, and they were mostly used on Transpacific services, but I too think they are the most likely contender.


If I were a gambling man (but am much too sensible to be so) I would bet that somebody has had a retro moment and sneaked in a late Caravelle question here ! And if it was United they would have routed through their favourite focus point of Cleveland.


I'll go for Japan Air Lines on a DC8.


The basis for the current American and United services at London Heathrow is that United took over the Pan Am routes, and American took over the TWA operation. They got changed around a bit since (after all, it's 20 years ago now) but the same basis still sort of prevails. United still has the flight attendant base at Heathrow which they inherited from Pan Am. After all the chopping and changing on the Miami route United got given temporary authority, but American then lobbied on the (quite reasonable) basis that they could offer a far larger set of connections from Miami to the Caribbean and Latin America, and got the permanent authority. American built up a lot of this international transfer traffic, which is relatively unusual for US carriers, but then lost most of it in the security regulations that came in after 9/11, that made a US transit point difficult for many and impossible for quite a number.

I don't recall the detail of whether the United-to-American transfer on the London to Miami route was the successor to the short-lived Eastern operation, or to the Pan Am licence, both will have come up round about the same time. Eastern were unknown in the UK when they started (and indeed, pretty much for the duration of their route), and Gatwick to Miami was a somewhat peripheral route anyway, but I recall an extensive (and presumably expensive, in those days) TV ad campaign they did all across the UK, which showed pilot after pilot coming out of the crew room, while a US-Southern accent described how they had so MANY flights every day. Well I suppose they did, in the USA, but the ad made no mention of where they flew from or to (I think they may have said USA once or twice), or that they only flew from Britain once a day, and seemed really irrelevant to a general UK audience. Really missed its mark; it may have been taken straight from a USA TV ad.

Originally Posted by Wally Bird

I was a regular on that route 1969-70 but didn't assiduously record my flights like I do now.

I'd thought it was a 707 ex-YWG but on reflection I do remember the stops in the wilds of ND - Fargo one way, Grand Forks the other neither of which could likely have accommodated a 707. I recall having to change at MSP for ORD, perhaps there was only one through flight a day?

Originally Posted by jlemon

Hey Wally! From what I can ascertain, Northwest operated four (4) flights a day from Winnipeg in July of 1968. Here are the routings from morning to evening:

NW 708: YWG-FAR-MSP-ORD-MIA. Equip: B727

NW 544: YWG-MSP-MDW-CLE. Equip: B727

NW 722: YWG-GFK-MSP-ORD-ATL. Equip: B727

NW 586: YWG-GFK-FAR-MSP. Equip: L-188 Electra

GFK - Grand Forks, ND
FAR - Fargo/Moorhead, ND

So at this time, there were two direct flights to Chicago O'Hare and one direct flight to Chicago Midway......

Originally Posted by Wally Bird

Guess I was always on 544 then, not being savvy enough at that time to do my own bookings. Pretty sure the Electra had gone before my time. Sigh.

Originally Posted by jlemon

Well then, Wally, I think you would have enjoyed this "milk run" flight in the summer of 1968:

NW 437: Chicago (ORD) - Madison, WI (MSN) - Rochester, MN (RST) - Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP) - Fargo/Moorhead, ND (FAR) - Grand Forks, ND (GFK) - Winnipeg (YWG). Equipment: L188 Electra

I know I would have!

Originally Posted by jlemon

The timeline for all of the following questions is the summer of 1983.
1) Identify four (4) airlines that operated nonstop service between SFO and IAH. Also identify the equipment operated on the route by each carrier.

I'm fairly certain on CO, PA and UA, all with 727s, but can't come up with a fourth -- Frontier flew that route, but not nonstop. I'll say Eastern, also with 727s.


2) Identify six (6) airlines that operated nonstop service between SLC and DEN. Also identify the equipment operated on the route by each carrier.

CO and RC -- DC9; EA and UA -- 727; FL and WA -- 737

4) Now you find yourself in Los Angeles on a Friday night. The phone rings and you are informed that you need to be in Panama City, Panama in time for a Sunday brunch followed by a business meeting on Monday. You discover that two airlines offer nonstop service from LAX to PTY on Saturday. Name both carriers and the aircraft they operated on the route.


Those would be Varig, with a DC-10, and Avianca with a 707.

Originally Posted by cs57

1) Service SFO/IAH 1983-- (from OAG PFG 7/1/83)
CO using 72S
EA using 727
UA using 727/72S
PA using D10

Originally Posted by miniliq

Seems like whenever I take a couple of days off I miss out on some great questions. Well I'm off on a mild domestic mileage run tomorrow for a couple of days but at least will have lots of connecting times to at least monitor the forum and perhaps try to answer without my reference materials.

Originally Posted by jlemon

1) Correct! The IAH to SFO frequencies on a typical day were as follows:

CO - Three (3) B727-200 flights

EA - Two (2) B727-100 flights

PA - One (1) DC-10 flight (most likely a former National aircraft as NA previously flew this route with a DC-10)

UA - Two (2) B727-200 flights

Originally Posted by jlemon