Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Aug 30, 2012, 9:30 am
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C'mon now, WHBM, it wouldn't be right for you to intentionally not answer questions posted by anyone here. You are an exceptionally knowledgeable airline historian, far and away the most well-versed of us all on all things airlines. You also have some good company in some of our other participants, who themselves are quite knowledgeable in their own right.
The original set of 70 questions I came up with were designed to challenge the average person who had an interest in airlines and may have been around during the 60s and 70s. Clearly however, many of our participants are far more knowledgeable than I anticipated coming off a site such as FlyerTalk as opposed to Airliners.net or some other airline forum site.
My primary concern is that given my level of interest in and knowledge of the airlines, I suspect that at this stage my questions might be a bit too simplistic for you all. While simple questions may be fun at first, ultimately they tend to become tedious to the point of people losing interest.
I have no qualms with the fact that my only slightly better than average knowledge of the airlines means that I'll swing and miss with my answers as often as I might connect for a home run (in cricket that would be a 6 run boundary) because we're all having fun here and at the end of the day we might also learn a few new things. However, it's important to keep it interesting, and at this point I suspect yourself and the rest of our participants are better suited to do just that with your questions.
Speaking of which, I rather enjoy your questions dealing with current things like flying the 767 from AMS to what other airport that was below sea level. It encourages a bit of fun research on our part. I actually did find Atyrau with Air Astana but for some reason was unable to come up with a nonstop flight from AMS aboard Air Astana so I moved on. Unfortunately I'm more than a bit lost on old flights and schedules out of London or around Europe, but I do enjoy reading about the answers when they do come out.
They are, for better or worse, (or worse or better as the case may be) two of the premier home run hitters in baseball. Here are their basic bios per Wikipedia:
Barry Bonds
Babe Ruth
Definitely not players you'd want to lob a softball to unless you enjoyed seeing a ball hit farther than it's ever been hit before...
The original set of 70 questions I came up with were designed to challenge the average person who had an interest in airlines and may have been around during the 60s and 70s. Clearly however, many of our participants are far more knowledgeable than I anticipated coming off a site such as FlyerTalk as opposed to Airliners.net or some other airline forum site.
My primary concern is that given my level of interest in and knowledge of the airlines, I suspect that at this stage my questions might be a bit too simplistic for you all. While simple questions may be fun at first, ultimately they tend to become tedious to the point of people losing interest.
I have no qualms with the fact that my only slightly better than average knowledge of the airlines means that I'll swing and miss with my answers as often as I might connect for a home run (in cricket that would be a 6 run boundary) because we're all having fun here and at the end of the day we might also learn a few new things. However, it's important to keep it interesting, and at this point I suspect yourself and the rest of our participants are better suited to do just that with your questions.
Speaking of which, I rather enjoy your questions dealing with current things like flying the 767 from AMS to what other airport that was below sea level. It encourages a bit of fun research on our part. I actually did find Atyrau with Air Astana but for some reason was unable to come up with a nonstop flight from AMS aboard Air Astana so I moved on. Unfortunately I'm more than a bit lost on old flights and schedules out of London or around Europe, but I do enjoy reading about the answers when they do come out.
They are, for better or worse, (or worse or better as the case may be) two of the premier home run hitters in baseball. Here are their basic bios per Wikipedia:
Barry Bonds
Babe Ruth
Definitely not players you'd want to lob a softball to unless you enjoyed seeing a ball hit farther than it's ever been hit before...
And I'm pleased to report that the sun is now attempting to break through the storm clouds here in southern Louisiana as what's left of Isaac continues to track north.....
Aug 30, 2012, 9:38 am
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The only BAC One-Eleven I ever flew on which featured a first class cabin was operated by Braniff International. And yes, I was fortunate enough to ride in the front cabin of this BN operated aircraft.
BTW, was the response from Wally Bird to your above question correct?
Aug 30, 2012, 11:59 am
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although the Russian contingent did turn up on British Airways and, after some very close questioning by me of the one who arrived from Moscow about the cabin interior, I found we had one who had arrived on an Aeroflot Ilyushin 96, which were doing a few of the weekend London flights at the time. I started writing this feeling humbled, but for those following this thread an Ilyushin 96 maybe just trumps any Cessna ! (But they weren't the only person on board).Regarding the One-Eleven name, yes, it started off as the Hunting 107 (and thus was nearly built at Luton airport), but they and Vickers, and some others, merged up to form BAC, and the civil drawing offices were consolidated at the old Vickers office at Weybridge/Brooklands, a location we last saw with the arrival of the last ever Vanguard in a YouTube clip a few pages back. Vickers had numbered their Commercial aircraft in the marketing office as the VC1 for the Viking (which was a Wellington bomber derivative), VC2 for the Viscount, and then a range of numbers for things that were never built. Meanwhile the engineering office had their own series of numbers, 600 for the Viking, 700 for the Viscount, 800 for the bigger Viscount, and 900 for the Vanguard. Someone then merged these two so the Vanguard also became the VC9 (and the Viscounts were also sometimes unofficially known as the VC7 and VC8), and then of course their first commercial jet was the VC10. When the drawings came over from Hunting they would have been the VC11, but that was unfair on their merger partners so the project was redesignated the One-Eleven, ostensibly BAC civil design number One, and number Eleven in the drawing office filing system after the VC10. Always One-Eleven, with the hyphen, not 1-11.
Ironically, all the VC10s were built under BAC, only the early project work was under Vickers, but it was always known all its life as the Vickers VC10 and never as the BAC VC10.
Incidentally, Vickers staff also decided that the H-107 was too big and redesigned it to be 20 seats smaller. As soon as production started everyone apart from the USA operators said it was too small, so it was redesigned AGAIN to be 20 seats larger, and that was the definitive One-Eleven 500.
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Aug 30, 2012, 10:22 pm
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Regarding the One-Eleven name, yes, it started off as the Hunting 107 (and thus was nearly built at Luton airport), but they and Vickers, and some others, merged up to form BAC, and the civil drawing offices were consolidated at the old Vickers office at Weybridge/Brooklands, a location we last saw with the arrival of the last ever Vanguard in a YouTube clip a few pages back. Vickers had numbered their Commercial aircraft in the marketing office as the VC1 for the Viking (which was a Wellington bomber derivative), VC2 for the Viscount, and then a range of numbers for things that were never built. Meanwhile the engineering office had their own series of numbers, 600 for the Viking, 700 for the Viscount, 800 for the bigger Viscount, and 900 for the Vanguard. Someone then merged these two so the Vanguard also became the VC9 (and the Viscounts were also sometimes unofficially known as the VC7 and VC8), and then of course their first commercial jet was the VC10. When the drawings came over from Hunting they would have been the VC11, but that was unfair on their merger partners so the project was redesignated the One-Eleven, ostensibly BAC civil design number One, and number Eleven in the drawing office filing system after the VC10. Always One-Eleven, with the hyphen, not 1-11.
Ironically, all the VC10s were built under BAC, only the early project work was under Vickers, but it was always known all its life as the Vickers VC10 and never as the BAC VC10.
Incidentally, Vickers staff also decided that the H-107 was too big and redesigned it to be 20 seats smaller. As soon as production started everyone apart from the USA operators said it was too small, so it was redesigned AGAIN to be 20 seats larger, and that was the definitive One-Eleven 500.
Ironically, all the VC10s were built under BAC, only the early project work was under Vickers, but it was always known all its life as the Vickers VC10 and never as the BAC VC10.
Incidentally, Vickers staff also decided that the H-107 was too big and redesigned it to be 20 seats smaller. As soon as production started everyone apart from the USA operators said it was too small, so it was redesigned AGAIN to be 20 seats larger, and that was the definitive One-Eleven 500.
AQ marketed their One-Elevens in 1965 as having seats that slide out when reclining, a feature that was decades ahead of its time. AQ's One-Elevens also featured a very cool feature, which was "lounge seating",or, in other words, seating facing each other in the middle of the cabin, much like some of the seating in WN's earlier 737s.
We should think of organizing a DO for next year in the UK, where we can visit these historic aircraft sites and hopefully get to see some of the aircraft live.
Aug 31, 2012, 12:09 am
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One of the aspects of the merger of Hunting into the old Vickers organisation was that the One-Eleven could then use the network of marketing, but in particular spares and support, that Vickers had built up for the Viscount. Two of the three largest Viscount purchasers were in North America, being Capital and Trans-Canada, along with others, and there was a substantial support structure in place. If Hunting had stayed independent they would have had major difficulties in a market where they had no background.
Incidentally, although the Viscount sold well in North America to several organisations, and the One-Eleven likewise, no airline bought both new from the manufacturer (Aloha's Viscounts were secondhand), which has always seemed strange to me.
Here's an article from British aviation magazine "Flight" from 1964 which is a trip report about Aloha's Viscounts and F27s.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%202838.html
Incidentally, although the Viscount sold well in North America to several organisations, and the One-Eleven likewise, no airline bought both new from the manufacturer (Aloha's Viscounts were secondhand), which has always seemed strange to me.
Here's an article from British aviation magazine "Flight" from 1964 which is a trip report about Aloha's Viscounts and F27s.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%202838.html
Aug 31, 2012, 7:14 am
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One of the aspects of the merger of Hunting into the old Vickers organisation was that the One-Eleven could then use the network of marketing, but in particular spares and support, that Vickers had built up for the Viscount. Two of the three largest Viscount purchasers were in North America, being Capital and Trans-Canada, along with others, and there was a substantial support structure in place. If Hunting had stayed independent they would have had major difficulties in a market where they had no background.
Incidentally, although the Viscount sold well in North America to several organisations, and the One-Eleven likewise, no airline bought both new from the manufacturer (Aloha's Viscounts were secondhand), which has always seemed strange to me.
Here's an article from British aviation magazine "Flight" from 1964 which is a trip report about Aloha's Viscounts and F27s.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%202838.html
Incidentally, although the Viscount sold well in North America to several organisations, and the One-Eleven likewise, no airline bought both new from the manufacturer (Aloha's Viscounts were secondhand), which has always seemed strange to me.
Here's an article from British aviation magazine "Flight" from 1964 which is a trip report about Aloha's Viscounts and F27s.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%202838.html
"It (HNL) is a joint-user airfield, and many military aircraft are handled. F-102 fighters are intermingled with single-engine business aircraft and civil jet transports, and the whole operation would give Auntie Heathrow an attack of the vapours."
A very good friend of mine flew as a first officer with AQ right up to the point where the airline ceased operating (after 61 years of continous service, I believe) due to financial challenges. Besides flying the B737-200 interisland, he also flew ETOPS approved B737-700 aircraft as an FO on such routes as HNL-YVR, HNL-SNA and HNL-BUR. I even remember seeing an Aloha 73G at Burbank one fine day as it was being readied for departure to Honolulu.....
And I very much like Tony's idea with regard to a possible DO in the UK next year!
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Aug 31, 2012, 8:40 am
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I too add my thanks for the quick history of Vickers and BAC. While reading about the names applied to aircraft such as Viking, Viscount and Vanguard, I couldn't help but wonder if ever there were a name considered for the VC10?
The VC10 has always been, for me at least, the most beautiful jetliner ever built. Unfortunately, I never did get a chance to fly upon it.
The VC10 has always been, for me at least, the most beautiful jetliner ever built. Unfortunately, I never did get a chance to fly upon it.
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Aug 31, 2012, 9:37 am
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Any prospect of a DO in the UK next year might well be based around this :
http://www.fighter-collection.com/legends.php
which is July 13-14. It's always pretty much the same weekend each year.
Although the emphasis is on 1940s/50s military aircraft, there's always a good representation by DC3s, maybe a Junkers 52, and even Britain's classic old commuter aircraft, the De Havilland Rapide. And it all takes place at Duxford, which has the best collection of old airliners, including just about every British airliner type from those days, so there's a huge amount to see there even without the show.
Incidentally the Google Streetview car has recently been allowed inside the Duxford airliner outside flightline (there are many more aircraft inside), and you can see just part part of the collection by "driving" along it - I notice the aircraft were switched around a bit between the Streetview and the normal overhead shots. In fact, if you start Here you may find something that, from S2A's photo above, looks a bit familiar .....
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Duxf...8.73,,0,-11.24
All this is part of an official British Government museum, so this fine airliner collection is provided courtesy of me, the British Taxpayer
http://www.fighter-collection.com/legends.php
which is July 13-14. It's always pretty much the same weekend each year.
Although the emphasis is on 1940s/50s military aircraft, there's always a good representation by DC3s, maybe a Junkers 52, and even Britain's classic old commuter aircraft, the De Havilland Rapide. And it all takes place at Duxford, which has the best collection of old airliners, including just about every British airliner type from those days, so there's a huge amount to see there even without the show.
Incidentally the Google Streetview car has recently been allowed inside the Duxford airliner outside flightline (there are many more aircraft inside), and you can see just part part of the collection by "driving" along it - I notice the aircraft were switched around a bit between the Streetview and the normal overhead shots. In fact, if you start Here you may find something that, from S2A's photo above, looks a bit familiar .....
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Duxf...8.73,,0,-11.24
All this is part of an official British Government museum, so this fine airliner collection is provided courtesy of me, the British Taxpayer
Aug 31, 2012, 9:48 am
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And I have several additional questions that can hopefully be answered as well:
How many Vickers Viscount aircraft did United operate following their acquisition of Capital and how long did UA operate these Viscounts before they were retired?
BTW, many years ago, I actually saw a Viscount operated by United at the old airport in Huntsville, AL (HSV). This airfield was subsequently turned into an auto race course when the new airport (which is where I later saw a United Caravelle) was opened to the east of Huntsville. However, the United name had been temporarily removed from the aircraft following some type of mishap encountered by this particular Viscount.
How many Vickers Viscount aircraft did United operate following their acquisition of Capital and how long did UA operate these Viscounts before they were retired?
BTW, many years ago, I actually saw a Viscount operated by United at the old airport in Huntsville, AL (HSV). This airfield was subsequently turned into an auto race course when the new airport (which is where I later saw a United Caravelle) was opened to the east of Huntsville. However, the United name had been temporarily removed from the aircraft following some type of mishap encountered by this particular Viscount.
Aug 31, 2012, 7:25 pm
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Sep 1, 2012, 2:12 pm
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Thanks for that, Seat 2A!
That's quite a fleet of Viscounts that United inherited from Capital. And I believe the Viscount was the only turboprop ever flown in mainline operations by UA. Of course, United Express operated the BAe ATP, but I think this type was operated by Air Wisconsin.....
That's quite a fleet of Viscounts that United inherited from Capital. And I believe the Viscount was the only turboprop ever flown in mainline operations by UA. Of course, United Express operated the BAe ATP, but I think this type was operated by Air Wisconsin.....
Sep 1, 2012, 9:17 pm
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1) In the summer of 1983, British Caledonian (BR) flew transatlantic services from the UK to six (6) U.S. cities. All of these flights were nonstop with one exception: one particular U.S. destination was served via a one stop, direct flight by BR. First, identify the UK airport where all of these services originated. Next, name all six U.S. cities served by BR at this time. Also identify the one U.S. city that was served on a one stop basis as well as the U.S. city where the intermediate stop was made. And for good measure, identify the primary aircraft type used for all of these flights.
2) At one point, British Caledonian provided shuttle service between London Heathrow (LHR) and London Gatwick (LGW) airports. Identify the aircraft type used for this service.
3) This airline pioneered the first Vickers VC10 service between the UK and South America. Identify the air carrier. Also name the four (4) cities served in South America by this new service at the time. Depending on the day of the week, these flights also made different intermediate stops en route. Identify these stops as well.
4) This air carrier flew nonstop services between London Gatwick (LGW) and Denver (DEN) back in the summer of 1983. Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
5) Name an airline that operated direct, one stop service between London Gatwick (LGW) and Papeete, Tahiti (PPT). Also identify the aircraft type used.
6) In the spring of 1981, there was only one airline flying nonstop service between Houston (IAH) and Seattle/Tacoma (SEA). Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
7) Also in the spring of 1981, this airline provide service between Houston (IAH) and Clear Lake City, TX (CLC). Name the airline, the aircraft type they used and the number of round trip flights flown every weekday.
8) This airline operated jet service between Mobile, AL (MOB) and Gulfport, MS (GPT). Identify the airline, the jet equipment used on the route and the number of flights flown every weekday from MOB to GPT and also from GPT to MOB.
9) What was the only airline ever to offer first class service as well as coach between Dallas Love Field (DAL) and Beaumont/Port Arthur, TX (BPT)? Also identify the aircraft they flew.
10) What airline operated daily direct, one stop service from Los Angeles (LAX) to San Juan (SJU) with Boeing 737-400 equipment? Also identify the intermediate stop.
11) In the spring of 1981, three (3) airlines operated jet service from San Jose (SJC) to Oakland (OAK). Name all three air carriers as well as the aircraft types they operated on this short hop.
12) In the summer of 1968, this airline offered a fare they called the "Consecutive Executive". For a flat charge of $65.00, one could fly as much as one wanted for five (5) consecutive days on a Monday through Friday basis. The only catch was that this carrier's international routes were not included in the deal. However, the airline only served two somewhat obscure international destinations at the time. Name the air carrier that offered this special fare.
The remainder of these quiz items all have a timeline of the fall of 1979:
13) Name two (2) airlines that operated wide body aircraft nonstop between New York (JFK) and Houston (IAH) at this time. Also identify the respective equipment types these carriers operated on the route.
14) Four (4) different airlines provided nonstop service between Montreal Mirabel (YMX) and New York (JFK) at this time. Name all four airlines and the respective aircraft types they operated on the route.
15) Two (2) airlines operated B747 nonstop flights between New York (JFK) and Detroit (DTW) at this time. Identify both of them.
16) This airline operated two (2) wide body flights a day from Charlotte (CLT) and New York (LGA) at this time. Identify the carrier and the equipment.
17) What airline flew Douglas DC-9-50 aircraft between Miami (MIA) and Barbados (BGI) at this time?
18) What was the only airline operating jet equipment between Miami (MIA) and Grand Turk, BWI (GDT) at this time? Also identify the aircraft type.
19) Name the airline that was operating Boeing 720 service from Miami (MIA) to Aguadilla, PR (BQN) at this time.
20) Four (4) airlines were operating service between Miami (MIA) and Port Au Prince, Haiti (PAP) at this time. Identify all four carriers as well as the respective equipment types they flew on the route.
21) What was the largest aircraft type Air Canada was operating at this time between Miami (MIA) and Toronto (YYZ)?
22) What airline was operating nonstop service twice a day between Tucson (TUS) and Houston Hobby (HOU) at this time? Also identify the equipment this carrier flew on the route.
23) This airline operated Boeing 727-200 service at this time from Edmonton (YEG) and Calgary (YYC) to Phoenix (PHX). Name the carrier.
24) What airline flew nonstop between Denver (DEN) and Burbank (BUR) at this time? Also identify the aircraft used by this carrier on the route.
25) What airline operated jet service between the Grand Canyon Airport (GCN) and Phoenix (PHX) at this time? Also identify the equipment they used on this route.
2) At one point, British Caledonian provided shuttle service between London Heathrow (LHR) and London Gatwick (LGW) airports. Identify the aircraft type used for this service.
3) This airline pioneered the first Vickers VC10 service between the UK and South America. Identify the air carrier. Also name the four (4) cities served in South America by this new service at the time. Depending on the day of the week, these flights also made different intermediate stops en route. Identify these stops as well.
4) This air carrier flew nonstop services between London Gatwick (LGW) and Denver (DEN) back in the summer of 1983. Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
5) Name an airline that operated direct, one stop service between London Gatwick (LGW) and Papeete, Tahiti (PPT). Also identify the aircraft type used.
6) In the spring of 1981, there was only one airline flying nonstop service between Houston (IAH) and Seattle/Tacoma (SEA). Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
7) Also in the spring of 1981, this airline provide service between Houston (IAH) and Clear Lake City, TX (CLC). Name the airline, the aircraft type they used and the number of round trip flights flown every weekday.
8) This airline operated jet service between Mobile, AL (MOB) and Gulfport, MS (GPT). Identify the airline, the jet equipment used on the route and the number of flights flown every weekday from MOB to GPT and also from GPT to MOB.
9) What was the only airline ever to offer first class service as well as coach between Dallas Love Field (DAL) and Beaumont/Port Arthur, TX (BPT)? Also identify the aircraft they flew.
10) What airline operated daily direct, one stop service from Los Angeles (LAX) to San Juan (SJU) with Boeing 737-400 equipment? Also identify the intermediate stop.
11) In the spring of 1981, three (3) airlines operated jet service from San Jose (SJC) to Oakland (OAK). Name all three air carriers as well as the aircraft types they operated on this short hop.
12) In the summer of 1968, this airline offered a fare they called the "Consecutive Executive". For a flat charge of $65.00, one could fly as much as one wanted for five (5) consecutive days on a Monday through Friday basis. The only catch was that this carrier's international routes were not included in the deal. However, the airline only served two somewhat obscure international destinations at the time. Name the air carrier that offered this special fare.
The remainder of these quiz items all have a timeline of the fall of 1979:
13) Name two (2) airlines that operated wide body aircraft nonstop between New York (JFK) and Houston (IAH) at this time. Also identify the respective equipment types these carriers operated on the route.
14) Four (4) different airlines provided nonstop service between Montreal Mirabel (YMX) and New York (JFK) at this time. Name all four airlines and the respective aircraft types they operated on the route.
15) Two (2) airlines operated B747 nonstop flights between New York (JFK) and Detroit (DTW) at this time. Identify both of them.
16) This airline operated two (2) wide body flights a day from Charlotte (CLT) and New York (LGA) at this time. Identify the carrier and the equipment.
17) What airline flew Douglas DC-9-50 aircraft between Miami (MIA) and Barbados (BGI) at this time?
18) What was the only airline operating jet equipment between Miami (MIA) and Grand Turk, BWI (GDT) at this time? Also identify the aircraft type.
19) Name the airline that was operating Boeing 720 service from Miami (MIA) to Aguadilla, PR (BQN) at this time.
20) Four (4) airlines were operating service between Miami (MIA) and Port Au Prince, Haiti (PAP) at this time. Identify all four carriers as well as the respective equipment types they flew on the route.
21) What was the largest aircraft type Air Canada was operating at this time between Miami (MIA) and Toronto (YYZ)?
22) What airline was operating nonstop service twice a day between Tucson (TUS) and Houston Hobby (HOU) at this time? Also identify the equipment this carrier flew on the route.
23) This airline operated Boeing 727-200 service at this time from Edmonton (YEG) and Calgary (YYC) to Phoenix (PHX). Name the carrier.
24) What airline flew nonstop between Denver (DEN) and Burbank (BUR) at this time? Also identify the aircraft used by this carrier on the route.
25) What airline operated jet service between the Grand Canyon Airport (GCN) and Phoenix (PHX) at this time? Also identify the equipment they used on this route.
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4) This air carrier flew nonstop services between London Gatwick (LGW) and Denver (DEN) back in the summer of 1983. Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
6) In the spring of 1981, there was only one airline flying nonstop service between Houston (IAH) and Seattle/Tacoma (SEA). Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
10) What airline operated daily direct, one stop service from Los Angeles (LAX) to San Juan (SJU) with Boeing 737-400 equipment? Also identify the intermediate stop.
11) In the spring of 1981, three (3) airlines operated jet service from San Jose (SJC) to Oakland (OAK). Name all three air carriers as well as the aircraft types they operated on this short hop.
The remainder of these quiz items all have a timeline of the fall of 1979:
13) Name two (2) airlines that operated wide body aircraft nonstop between New York (JFK) and Houston (IAH) at this time. Also identify the respective equipment types these carriers operated on the route.
15) Two (2) airlines operated B747 nonstop flights between New York (JFK) and Detroit (DTW) at this time. Identify both of them.
21) What was the largest aircraft type Air Canada was operating at this time between Miami (MIA) and Toronto (YYZ)?
22) What airline was operating nonstop service twice a day between Tucson (TUS) and Houston Hobby (HOU) at this time? Also identify the equipment this carrier flew on the route.
24) What airline flew nonstop between Denver (DEN) and Burbank (BUR) at this time? Also identify the aircraft used by this carrier on the route.
6) In the spring of 1981, there was only one airline flying nonstop service between Houston (IAH) and Seattle/Tacoma (SEA). Identify the airline and the equipment used on the route.
10) What airline operated daily direct, one stop service from Los Angeles (LAX) to San Juan (SJU) with Boeing 737-400 equipment? Also identify the intermediate stop.
11) In the spring of 1981, three (3) airlines operated jet service from San Jose (SJC) to Oakland (OAK). Name all three air carriers as well as the aircraft types they operated on this short hop.
The remainder of these quiz items all have a timeline of the fall of 1979:
13) Name two (2) airlines that operated wide body aircraft nonstop between New York (JFK) and Houston (IAH) at this time. Also identify the respective equipment types these carriers operated on the route.
15) Two (2) airlines operated B747 nonstop flights between New York (JFK) and Detroit (DTW) at this time. Identify both of them.
21) What was the largest aircraft type Air Canada was operating at this time between Miami (MIA) and Toronto (YYZ)?
22) What airline was operating nonstop service twice a day between Tucson (TUS) and Houston Hobby (HOU) at this time? Also identify the equipment this carrier flew on the route.
24) What airline flew nonstop between Denver (DEN) and Burbank (BUR) at this time? Also identify the aircraft used by this carrier on the route.
I was born about 9 years after 1981 so I missed most of these cool routes.
4. Western Airlines DC-10. They also operated ANC-LGW as well. I think they also had a HNL-LGW 1 stop service via ANC as well.
6. PanAm on a 747-100 or 747-200. Most likely came off an Asia run not sure though.
10. The only one I can think of is US Airways via Pittsburgh.
11. AirCalifornia (737-200), Hughes Air West (727) and Pacific Southwest Airlines (727)
13. PanAm Boeing 747-100/200 and Eastern Airbus 300
15. Northwest Orient and Pan Am
21. Boeing 747 they also operated DC8's, 727 and a Lockheed TriStar.
23. Republic/Hughes Air West. It was either a DC-9 or a 727.
24. Republic/Hughes Air West. DC-9 Service.
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