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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by seanthepilot
The arrogance of some people that cannot stand the person in front of them reclining.

I have a plan. Pay for the seat in front of you too.

IMO, this is a regional issue. The rest of the world has no problem with reclining. It makes me laugh to no end.
I would love to hear the conversation when an FA puts someone in that seat in front of you that you paid for...

"Excuse me. That's my seat. I paid for it."

"Then why aren't you sitting in it?"

And on and on and on...
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by rjque
What an odd post. My clients are paying me by the hour when I'm on a flight and expect me to use that time efficiently. If you don't like that I have to work, take it up with them.
Perhaps you should take a portion of the money you are being paid and offer to pay the person in front of you not to recline. Or have your clients pay directly.

You could carry a spare W-9 with you just in case.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 3:55 pm
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There are already rows without reclining seats in them. They're called the exit row and the bulkhead. If you can't get into these then you're not flying enough for people reclining to actually affect you.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 3:57 pm
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If I have to give up something (including reclining) particularly to improve the gains or profits of someone else then I should get paid for it. If this is to improve your company's profits then there is no reason why your company can't pay for it. In some cases this might be accomplished indirectly by hiding it among other items in an expense report.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 6:01 pm
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Unhappy Ouch!

Originally Posted by sunnyjl
OMG can we NOT have yet another one of these threads?!
Sorry for starting on such a sore topic. I think I can consider myself totally overruled now!
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by travelgirl87
It's also an issue for those with long legs.

Does anyone agree? Should this go into the next Passenger Rights bill?


a. I have long legs, please don't speak for me. If the person in front of me wants to recline, I honestly don't care.

b. Perhaps it should be in the next Passenger rights bill that we have the right to recline.

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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by peachfront
Hello. It's an airplane, not your office. If you can't ever turn it off, I think you need to get professional help. If you're that important, you would be on a private jet. And you're so not that important. Yes, that means all of us.

We have time to post on the internet and screw around on a message board. Stop pretending that there is never a minute of the day, even on an airplane, when you're too important to relax.

If you have long legs or you're otherwise a POS, buy a first class ticket. If you are pretending to work thinking that you're impressing anyone, just please stop. I have never seen any serious work done on the computer of any of my seatmates. It was always stuff that it wouldn't matter if it was done or not, like drying dishes. Hello, the dishes will dry whether you do it or not. Same for those pie charts. It really doesn't matter whether you look at them or not on the airplane. If you look at them on the ground, you'll look at them FASTER. You save no time doing that stuff in the air, and you impress no one, except in a negative way.

Sleeping serves a purpose. "Working" on an airplane serves no purpose. You're only kidding yourself, and if you realized what you looked like to those around you, you'd feel pretty foolish.
I am self employed and as such am on billable time when working on an airplane. The time I spend working on the plane is time I do not spend working at home. I can play golf, take my wife out, talk with the kids. If I waited until I was at home I would miss out on those pleasures.

I do not complain about recliners. I just bought a computer with a smaller screen that does not get pinched. I get to work, they get to rest. It is a symbiotic relationship. I even try to not type too hard.

I slept at the hotel.

And to those around me, if they think I am a fool for working, then they are allowed their thoughts.

And BTW I am a POS, and I buy two seats. I even use both tray tables, one for my mouse pad and mouse. I will share it with you if you ask. Nicely.

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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by rjque
What an odd post. My clients are paying me by the hour when I'm on a flight and expect me to use that time efficiently. If you don't like that I have to work, take it up with them.
You charge for your time on the plane? Perhaps a review of charging policy is in order..
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 4:01 am
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If you don't want the person in front of you to recline, fly Ryanair.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
You charge for your time on the plane? Perhaps a review of charging policy is in order..
I don't know any high-end professional who doesn't charge for their travel time unless they have some special discount arrangement with a particular client. Time is time. If someone pays me to write a sophisticated document or to mow their lawn, I am expending the same time and the fee is the same. That's why people don't pay me to mow their lawns. It's also why many now use video links and the like because clients are much happier with that than paying for 16 hours for a 1-hour meeting.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:48 am
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I would love to fly in business or first class all the time, but it's usually uneconomical. I usually fly coach, but occasionally the price is right, and I fly in a premium cabin.

I've worked on my laptop on an airplane a grand total of two times in my life, and that was because I was upgraded and not sleepy. I usually sleep on planes, even in coach.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
I don't know any high-end professional who doesn't charge for their travel time unless they have some special discount arrangement with a particular client. Time is time. If someone pays me to write a sophisticated document or to mow their lawn, I am expending the same time and the fee is the same. That's why people don't pay me to mow their lawns. It's also why many now use video links and the like because clients are much happier with that than paying for 16 hours for a 1-hour meeting.
Exactly. There was one time when I was a Paralegal that I had to fly from BOS to LAX. I found out about the trip at 10:00 in the morning and was on a 2:00 flight out (back on that night's red eye). In the end the client ended up being billed for about 20 hours of my time. Purpose of my trip was to deliver a $6M check; had I only billed for the "actual" work it would have been about 2 minutes. If something is important enough for a professional to travel then he/she should be paid accordingly.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 12:02 pm
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When in coach it bothers me not that someone in front reclines their seat and care even less about somebody behind.

Since the limited recline offered is uncomfortable IMHO reclining is not something that is done by me.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
I don't know any high-end professional who doesn't charge for their travel time unless they have some special discount arrangement with a particular client. Time is time. If someone pays me to write a sophisticated document or to mow their lawn, I am expending the same time and the fee is the same. That's why people don't pay me to mow their lawns. It's also why many now use video links and the like because clients are much happier with that than paying for 16 hours for a 1-hour meeting.
Oddly enough, my Father was a lawyer for Skadden Arps and he could only bill for his travel time if he was actively working on the client's material. I always found that strange as he was going to see them/work for them when he got there but that's how it was. When I was in electrical sales my meter started running the second I left my door to go to the airport.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by CMK10
Oddly enough, my Father was a lawyer for Skadden Arps and he could only bill for his travel time if he was actively working on the client's material. I always found that strange as he was going to see them/work for them when he got there but that's how it was. When I was in electrical sales my meter started running the second I left my door to go to the airport.
Of course clients already were paying enough of a premium for the Skadden name.
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