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travelgirl87 Sep 28, 2011 7:28 pm

Limiting Reclining in Y
 
What do you think about the idea of having airlines disable the recline feature of an airplane's seats in sections of the plane with less than a 32 inch pitch? While I understand that the recline feature helps some folks sleep, it's a real pain the the #@$@* for those that would like to actually use their tray tables during a flight to get some work accomplished. It's also an issue for those with long legs.

Does anyone agree? Should this go into the next Passenger Rights bill?

gfunkdave Sep 28, 2011 8:46 pm

I think it's a terrible idea, and I would not fly an airline if I couldn't recline at all. There's a reason the cabin crew tells you to bring your seat back to the full upright and uncomfortable position for takeoff and landing.

Yes! Got this in before the thread devolves to another "Let's all recline/You recliners are jerks" free-for-all and gets closed. :D

BadgerBoi Sep 28, 2011 8:51 pm

I think it's a great idea for short flights, say maximum 90-120 minutes.

Emma1420 Sep 28, 2011 9:06 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 17190344)
I think it's a great idea for short flights, say maximum 90-120 minutes.

I don't mind the idea on short flights. It's long haul flights that I would object to not being able to recline. That little bit of recline makes a huge difference when trying to sleep. Or at least it does for me.

nerd Sep 28, 2011 9:15 pm

I would be fine if folks wished to pay a premium for a shorter-pitch, non-reclining row of seats. ^

The excess costs could be justified by the extra productivity (no laptop screen issues).

planemechanic Sep 28, 2011 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 17190318)
I think it's a terrible idea, and I would not fly an airline if I couldn't recline at all.

:td::td: to this horrible idea.

peachfront Sep 28, 2011 9:39 pm

Hello. It's an airplane, not your office. If you can't ever turn it off, I think you need to get professional help. If you're that important, you would be on a private jet. And you're so not that important. Yes, that means all of us.

We have time to post on the internet and screw around on a message board. Stop pretending that there is never a minute of the day, even on an airplane, when you're too important to relax.

If you have long legs or you're otherwise a POS, buy a first class ticket. If you are pretending to work thinking that you're impressing anyone, just please stop. I have never seen any serious work done on the computer of any of my seatmates. It was always stuff that it wouldn't matter if it was done or not, like drying dishes. Hello, the dishes will dry whether you do it or not. Same for those pie charts. It really doesn't matter whether you look at them or not on the airplane. If you look at them on the ground, you'll look at them FASTER. You save no time doing that stuff in the air, and you impress no one, except in a negative way.

Sleeping serves a purpose. "Working" on an airplane serves no purpose. You're only kidding yourself, and if you realized what you looked like to those around you, you'd feel pretty foolish.





Originally Posted by travelgirl87 (Post 17189987)
What do you think about the idea of having airlines disable the recline feature of an airplane's seats in sections of the plane with less than a 32 inch pitch? While I understand that the recline feature helps some folks sleep, it's a real pain the the #@$@* for those that would like to actually use their tray tables during a flight to get some work accomplished. It's also an issue for those with long legs.

Does anyone agree? Should this go into the next Passenger Rights bill?


BadgerBoi Sep 28, 2011 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by Emma1420 (Post 17190425)
I don't mind the idea on short flights. It's long haul flights that I would object to not being able to recline. That little bit of recline makes a huge difference when trying to sleep. Or at least it does for me.

I've more or less stopped even thinking about reclining on short flights now, it's only when the person in front of me does one of those fast and full reclines three seconds after take-off that I even consider it.

For long-haul flights I only go business class now, and the reclining thing was one of the major factors in my initial decision to do this. I don't have to worry about the person in front of me slamming his seat into me, and I can recline without being concerned that I'm making the passenger behind me uncomfortable. As a bonus, I don't end up with dandruff in my lap (or in my meal) from the PYT in front of me who insists on flicking her hair all around the cabin.

Ancien Maestro Sep 28, 2011 10:23 pm

Terrible idea..

The recline imo currently is not enough.. but not having recline would be a non starter

Ancien Maestro Sep 28, 2011 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 17190783)
I've more or less stopped even thinking about reclining on short flights now, it's only when the person in front of me does one of those fast and full reclines three seconds after take-off that I even consider it.

For long-haul flights I only go business class now, and the reclining thing was one of the major factors in my initial decision to do this. I don't have to worry about the person in front of me slamming his seat into me, and I can recline without being concerned that I'm making the passenger behind me uncomfortable. As a bonus, I don't end up with dandruff in my lap (or in my meal) from the PYT in front of me who insists on flicking her hair all around the cabin.

Dandruff flying..:D

I've never had the snowy experience..

That's upping the budget quite a bit, reclining being of the main reasons for your choice of business class seats..

roberino Sep 28, 2011 10:35 pm

If your company expects you to work on a flight then you should expect them to put you in business class. Alternatively, you could be one of those people who leaves all their prep work for a trip until the last minute and then blames those around you on the plane for not getting it done in time.

Ancien Maestro Sep 28, 2011 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by roberino (Post 17190837)
If your company expects you to work on a flight then you should expect them to put you in business class. Alternatively, you could be one of those people who leaves all their prep work for a trip until the last minute and then blames those around you on the plane for not getting it done in time.

Its amazing to me that employees expect business class.. jmho..

Business Class costs multiple times more than a coach seat.. as a business owner, I don't fly business, and see the value of flying coach.. As a budget stalwart, I find bursting the purse strings for an employee to be comfortable, would be better spent at say, a raise, or bonus for the employee for a job well done?

roberino Sep 28, 2011 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17190850)
Its amazing to me that employees expect business class.. jmho..

Business Class costs multiple times more than a coach seat.. as a business owner, I don't fly business, and see the value of flying coach.. As a budget stalwart, I find bursting the purse strings for an employee to be comfortable, would be better spent at say, a raise, or bonus for the employee for a job well done?

My point was, that if that is the case then the employer cannot expect their employees to work on a flight.

BadgerBoi Sep 28, 2011 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17190805)
Dandruff flying..:D

I've never had the snowy experience..

That's upping the budget quite a bit, reclining being of the main reasons for your choice of business class seats..

There are many reasons, reclining is one of them. I'm happy to use a big percentage of my budget on the flight when I travel long-haul, I love flying (as long as I can fly in the J cabin), so there ya go.

roberino Sep 28, 2011 11:01 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17190850)
Its amazing to me that employees expect business class.. jmho..

Business Class costs multiple times more than a coach seat.. as a business owner, I don't fly business, and see the value of flying coach.. As a budget stalwart, I find bursting the purse strings for an employee to be comfortable, would be better spent at say, a raise, or bonus for the employee for a job well done?

My company actually has an interesting take on this. We do a detailed travel plan each quarter including all trips we need to make plus a contingency for one or two unexpected trips and work out a budget which then gets approved by management. We can then fly in whatever class we like and stay in whatever hotel we like, but if we go over the cap then that's a misconduct offence. It gives the employees the flexibility to give and take depending on the circumstances and everyone seems to be happier with this system. Two years ago the company was tightening its belt and offered a 20% increase on bonus for anyone who was 30% below their cap in all four quarters. Most travelling employees managed this, were ecstatic with the bonus increase and the company saved money overall.


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