Sure I could, but why? Why live in a small hotel room (comparatively) when I can live in a large (comparatively) apartment or house?

I find that these tend to be rare and when they do exist aren't necessarily equipped with what I want/need.

Let's take NYC for example. Where in Manhattan could I stay and have a great kitchen similar to the one I have in my own apartment?


I find hotels of all kinds to be similar in kind.

not an arguable position with luxury hotels

kitchens are definitely not rare, including luxury/designer
gaggenau/miele @ mark NY, alex NY
miele @ setai NY
mark and setai are residential units
clearly luxury residences at luxury hotels are going to be at a certain standard
http://www.thelondonnyc.com/suites/the-london-penthouse
if apartment (not condo/coop) unless were talking super high end, i have hard time believing kitchen is that good...

in terms of size in new york >
i think the largest suite is 4,300 ft2 at four seasons
trump soho penthouse needs sale to be built i believe

How is this not an arguable position? All hotels are similar in that you are a guest, your stay is short-term, someone else decorates, and so forth. This is true of Holiday Inns and Amans.

The question wasn't whether there are hotels with kitchens; the question was whether there are hotels with the kitchens I want.

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Do you honestly find it surprising that someone who not want to live in a hotel, even at the height of luxury, every day of their life?

ok, i agree re short term redecorating (below billionaire level)

do you suggest a (large) hotel residence (condo in city, villa outside) is different from a normal residence? you dont have to use any hotel services, furnishing, etc. villas can be estate properties on acres.

there are residences that do not offer rental program, and have lengthy minimum leases for owners who want to rent. there are also hotel apartments, like ritz carlton tokyo, which have a 3 year min lease.

which i obviously cant answer. if i were a kitchen expert, i would be able to comment better.

this sounds fairly encompassing (obviously could be misleading) and base price isnt even that high >
http://www.thelondonnyc.com/suites/the-london-penthouse

I do, you don't? Do most hotels allow you to remove the furniture and provide your own (for example)?

The point is that the kitchen in my apartment is whatever I want it to be. At hotels I'm a slave to the designer, am I not?

Again, I ask: Do you honestly find it surprising that someone would not want to live in a hotel, even at the height of luxury, every day of their life?

Fascinating topic, and whilst I'm not a big believer in astrology I'll bet 'Earth Signs' such as myself (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn) are less likely to take to such a peripatetic life.

OTOH, a house can really be a money pit (and time sink) and sometimes I wish I'd given mine up when I had the chance!

since when do rental apartments let you change anything?

another thing - there are hotel condo residences that are sold as shells. i dont think any villas do this. but some villas do offer a fair amount of customization, including in kitchen.

also in terms of redecorating, while rare, there are probably some unfurnished condos at places with no min lease, where you could rent or buy/sell furniture for during your stay. actually this might not be that rare, if negotiating with owner who would prefer longer lease, but will accept shorter/nightly/etc.

Um, I live in a rental and I can change lots of things. I can paint, I can bring in furniture, I can set up the kitchen with appliances I like, and so on and so forth.

When you start talking about hotel condo residences that are shells you start getting into apartment territory as far as I am concerned. Do you think this is the type of establishment the man in the article is living in?

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I ask again, do you honestly find it surprising that someone would not want to live in a hotel, even at the height of luxury, every day of their life?

range or cooktop? they wouldnt let you install new in-counter appliances would they?

you keep saying hotel, and i am pointing out the options include units that are not in inventory.

in inventory, there are still more options than you seem to be recognizing.

i agree with you re decor, below the billionaire level. at that level, top bookable accommodations, anywhere from $5K to $50K, hotels are pretty willing to do things. i cant make generalizations below that level for short term.

but as i mentioned, there are condohotels (or coop in NY) where there is no min lease, and some owners do not buy furniture package or use hotel rental program, preferring to rent themselves. this would include unfurnished units they would like to rent long term. but one might be able to negotiate shorter stays. i dont know much about rental furniture, but one could also buy/sell, or have someone (maybe even hotel real estate company - for a fee) handle that for them.

Some do, some don't. Even in our little thread here we have both kinds of people. I don't see the point of bringing this up over and over again.

Empirically we know that both types of people exist. What fascinates me is that kage hasn't acknowledged that some might actually prefer a home.

I don't understand what we're arguing about anymore. I wouldn't want to live the lifestyle of the person in the quoted text, which was the question. You keep trying to change the goalposts and suggest that living in a hotel-apartment counts as a hotel. The whole point of the article is that this man doesn't stay in one place for long, indeed he is only in one place for a "short period of time." Would I enjoy that life? Not at all.

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Indeed.


No doubt. I am not one of them.

there has been discussion of lifestyle as well as hotel offerings.
we could also take the discussion beyond hotels into other accommodations.