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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 2:30 pm
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Help me decipher visa rules from timatic

My Dad is an Indian citizen traveling from DEL to EZE via FRA and back to DEL via SCL-GRU-FRA. He will have visas for Argentina and Chile as we are going there, but it wasn't clear to me if he needed a Schengen/German transit visa.

This is what *A.com's timatic application says. Now my Dad has a 10 year UK visa that goes till 2016, and as I said above he has visas for his destination. Maybe I'm dense, but it's not clear to me from the text below whether he needs a transit visa for Germany or not. It seems that this is saying that unless you're traveling to the US, Canada, UK, non-Schengen member state, etc. and have a valid visa for those, you need a transit visa.


Originally Posted by starlliance.com

National India (IN) /Embarkation India (IN)
Transit Germany (DE) /Destination Argentina (AR)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW


Germany (DE)


TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Those transiting to a third country

by the same or first connecting flight without leaving the

transit lounge. Warning: Transit only possible at
Cologne/Bonn, Frankfurt, Munich, Hamburg and Dusseldorf
Airports, see conditions below.

- Nationals of India may use the TWOV facility mentioned

above if:
- holding a valid visa issued by Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus,
Ireland (Rep. of), Japan, Liechtenstein, Romania, USA (SEE
NOTE 37998) or United Kingdom, traveling to any
non-Schengen Member State; or
- returning from Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, Ireland (Rep.
of), Japan, Romania, USA or United Kingdom after having
used the visa.
NOTE 37998: An expired visa for the USA will be accepted,
provided holding an I-797 notice of an extension

applicable to that visa.
- Conditions: TWOV available, provided passenger:

- holds all travel documents required for entry into
country of destination; and

- is properly ticketed with a confirmed reservation for the

connecting flight:

- within 24 hours, through Frankfurt or Munich; OR
- on the same day between 04:30 and 23:30 through Hamburg;
OR
- on the same day between 04:30 and 23:00 through
Cologne/Bonn; OR
- on the same day between 06:00 and 21:00 through
Dusseldorf (SEE NOTE 40424).
*Note:TWOV is not possible when arriving from a
non-Schengen Member State AND departing to a Schengen

Member State TIRULES/R34
NOTE 40424: Inbound carrier must provide prior notice to

authorities by fax: +49 211 421 20521; tel: +49 211 421

63695 or SITA Telex DUSOVXH.
Additional Information:

- Visitors must hold visible means of support, onward/return
tickets or evidence of continuing journey by other means of

transport and/or other documents required for next
destination.

For details, click here
Warning:
- Non-compliance with the entry/transit requirements (incl.
forged documents and unsigned passports) results in:
For details, click here


Argentina (AR)



Passport required.
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.

Visa required.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by abcx
My Dad is an Indian citizen traveling from DEL to EZE via FRA and back to DEL via SCL-GRU-FRA. He will have visas for Argentina and Chile as we are going there, but it wasn't clear to me if he needed a Schengen/German transit visa.

This is what *A.com's timatic application says. Now my Dad has a 10 year UK visa that goes till 2016, and as I said above he has visas for his destination. Maybe I'm dense, but it's not clear to me from the text below whether he needs a transit visa for Germany or not.
Based on the TIMATIC data, he should be able to use the TWOV facility at FRA in both directions, as he has a valid UK visa and will be travelling to/from non-Schengen countries.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Based on the TIMATIC data, he should be able to use the TWOV facility at FRA in both directions, as he has a valid UK visa and will be travelling to/from non-Schengen countries.
Ahh. I think I know what I was misinterpreting. I was reading the non-Schengen member state bit as "non-Schengen EU member state". I take it the more obvious interpretation was a non-Schengen state.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 9:39 am
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I assume he is connecting in GRU and not leaving the airport. If so, he can use TWOV there, but if he is leaving the airport, he will also need a visa for Brazil.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 10:40 am
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I assume he is connecting in GRU and not leaving the airport. If so, he can use TWOV there, but if he is leaving the airport, he will also need a visa for Brazil.
Yeah, only transiting.
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