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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

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...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Sep 27, 2014, 8:11 am

#7126

iluvdoco

Join Date: Aug 2014

Posts: 3,723

Thanks for checking! Unfortunately, that illustrates my point exactly. I can't see any QR availability in August. Your sample is for APRIL 2015.

I'm not seeing any availability for QR on major routes past ~ June 20, 2015. Is it an issue with KVS or BA Avios search tool? How many days in advance can be searched with the BA search tool?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

They do-- here is an example:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]

Code:

DOH  Doha Hamad Intl QA [OTHH]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  14 Apr 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
QR         11      DOH   01:50     LHR   07:15              FS2  CS0  WS/
QR         7       DOH   06:45     LHR   12:00              CS0  WS/  YS9
QR         3       DOH   07:55     LHR   13:15              CS0  WS/  YS8
QR         1       DOH   12:30     LHR   17:55              CS0  WS/  YS9
QR         15      DOH   14:50     LHR   20:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS/
QR         5       DOH   16:35     LHR   22:00              FS1  CS0  WS/  YS9
BA         124     DOH   23:15     LHR   06:25 +1           FS0  CS0  WS2  YS0
QR         203     DOH   13:10     ATH   18:10              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS0
 -> BA     633     ATH   19:30     LHR   21:15              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS-
QR         139     DOH   08:20     BCN   14:15              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     475     BCN   16:10     LHR   17:30              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         195     DOH   02:15     BRU   07:35              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     391     BRU   09:45     LHR   10:00              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         1024    DOH   06:00     DXB   08:10              FS0  YS9
 -> BA     108     DXB   09:30     LHR   14:05              FS-  CS-  WS+  YS-
QR         113     DOH   08:20     FCO   13:25              FS/  CS3  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     547     FCO   15:15     LHR   16:55              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         109     DOH   13:50     FCO   18:50              FS/  CS2  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     555     FCO   20:15     LHR   21:50              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         67      DOH   08:15     FRA   13:35              CS0  WS/  YS8
 -> BA     905     FRA   14:35     LHR   15:25              CS-  WS/  YS+
QR         103     DOH   08:30     GVA   14:10              CS0  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     731     GVA   15:25     LHR   16:05              CS-  WS/  YS+
QR         57      DOH   08:15     MUC   13:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     953     MUC   16:25     LHR   17:25              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         121     DOH   13:40     MXP   19:05              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     581     MXP   21:55     LHR   22:45              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         75      DOH   08:35     TXL   14:00              CS0  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     985     TXL   16:50     LHR   17:45              CS-  WS/  YS+
QR         183     DOH   08:35     VIE   13:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     701     VIE   14:10     LHR   15:35              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         183     DOH   08:35     VIE   13:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     703     VIE   15:35     LHR   16:50              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         95      DOH   08:20     ZRH   13:35              CS0  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     715     ZRH   15:45     LHR   16:30              CS-  WS/  YS+

Last edited by iluvdoco; Sep 27, 2014 at 8:25 am

Sep 27, 2014, 10:29 am

#7127

FabrizioB

Join Date: Jul 2012

Location: Gilette, France

Programs: AAdvantage (since 1987) PLAT. USAir Dividend, AF Flying Blue.

Posts: 312

Hello.
I'm a Diamond subscriber, I'm using it for American airlines, Availability/ETR has been suppressed. What do I do now ?

Sep 27, 2014, 1:55 pm

#7128

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvdoco

There is no issue with either -- just a simple lack of Award Availability on those dates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvdoco

How many days in advance can be searched with the BA search tool?

354 Days.

Sep 27, 2014, 1:57 pm

#7129

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by FabrizioB

I'm a Diamond subscriber, I'm using it for American airlines, Availability/ETR has been suppressed. What do I do now ?

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

Sep 27, 2014, 11:14 pm

#7130

cssaus

Join Date: Jan 2006

Location: Sydney, Australia

Programs: Velocity Platinum, UA MM

Posts: 557

I now have an ANA Mileage Club membership which now has a password instead of the 4 digit pin.

When I attempt to update my membership details under "settings" in KVS, it still only wants to accept a 4-digit pin. How do I fix this??

Sep 28, 2014, 2:04 am

#7131

cssaus

Join Date: Jan 2006

Location: Sydney, Australia

Programs: Velocity Platinum, UA MM

Posts: 557

Quote:

Originally Posted by cssaus

Solved my own problem.....upgraded KVS

Sep 28, 2014, 9:23 am

#7132

aj411

Join Date: Nov 2008

Location: Minnesota

Programs: AA EXP; United 1K, Delta, IHG Plat Amb, PE, Marriott/Hilton Gold

Posts: 750

Posted this on the AA forum but wonder if this might be a better place:

trying to book flights from MSP to LHR using AA miles. May 24
KVS shows premium FS+ availability for 3 with AA to ORD (3087) and then BA to LHR (296).
When I search on AA.com they don't show premium availability and don't show this combination on economy at all.

If I call AA directly, do I have a chance of them finding this routing? or is this not really available for AA but for other Oneworld customers?
Any way to tell if this would be MileSaver or Anytime availability?

Side note: I know BA isn't my first choice due to fees but I already have flights booked with miles in economy that use BA on another route so a lateral change there. Still hoping for a non-BA route to open up but this is the first premium cabin availability I've seen open up on KVS and want to get it if I can.

Thanks for any advice

-AJ

Sep 28, 2014, 11:23 am

#7133

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj411

Posted this on the AA forum but wonder if this might be a better place:

Please see our reply in the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post23593973 Thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj411

Any way to tell if this would be MileSaver or Anytime availability?

You can access both types of Award Availability via the KVS Tool:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AA

Sep 28, 2014, 1:34 pm

#7134

fish114

Join Date: Jan 2008

Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, SPG PLT, Marriott PLT, Shangri-La Diamond

Posts: 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

How does one get "GTC credentials"? What is GTC?

Alternatively, is there another way in the desktop application to review AA availability?

Sep 28, 2014, 4:55 pm

#7135

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish114

How does one get "GTC credentials"? What is GTC?

Please submit a request via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

Sep 28, 2014, 7:24 pm

#7136

nwa330

Join Date: Sep 2003

Location: Here Today Gone Tomorrow

Programs: NW Silver, CO Silver,SPG Gold, USMint Presidential, Chase/BA 100k, Airtran Wendy's cups

Posts: 815

Delta just killed KE award seats from their website. Can you see them on KVS?

Sep 29, 2014, 5:50 am

#7137

bernyx

Join Date: Aug 2005

Posts: 730

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwa330

Delta just killed KE award seats from their website. Can you see them on KVS?

I have the same question, although I didn't know you could get the KE award seats in the first place. Also is KVS the best tool to find one world award tickets to asia? JAL site is terrible and AA doesn't give foreign carriers I don't believe

Sep 29, 2014, 9:52 am

#7138

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwa330

Delta just killed KE award seats from their website. Can you see them on KVS?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bernyx

I have the same question, although I didn't know you could get the KE award seats in the first place.

We are aware of the KE Award Availability issue and will be looking into the possibility of introducing an alternative data source, should it persist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwa330

Also is KVS the best tool to find one world award tickets to asia? JAL site is terrible and AA doesn't give foreign carriers I don't believe

Yes, the KVS Tool has 100% OneWorld Award Availability Coverage:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#OneWorld

Oct 1, 2014, 11:23 am

#7139

FabrizioB

Join Date: Jul 2012

Location: Gilette, France

Programs: AAdvantage (since 1987) PLAT. USAir Dividend, AF Flying Blue.

Posts: 312

"[Fares/PSH] Temporarily Unavailable"
What's hap now ?

Oct 1, 2014, 12:03 pm

#7140

edweird

Join Date: Nov 2007

Location: DAB

Programs: DL PM UA PSilver Marriott Lifetime Plat, AMEX Platinum, Avis PC, UA MPPPlus

Posts: 961

Quote:

Originally Posted by FabrizioB

"[Fares/PSH] Temporarily Unavailable"
What's hap now ?

Yes, I'd like to know when the ability to look up fares will be functional again?