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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:

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Sep 15, 2014, 3:16 pm

#7111

jarusoba

Join Date: May 2007

Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia

Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt

Posts: 4,396

Is it possible to use a different POS when I use the FS to find availability?

I have been trying to find space on CX HKG-MLE in D fare. My fare was MLE-YYZ return in D. KVS has been showing D9 but I still can't confirm on this flight because my ticket was issued ex-MLE.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
MLE  Male Ibrahim Nasir Intl MV [VRMM]
SUN  12 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------
CX         601     HKG   17:30     MLE   20:45     333      J9 C9 D9 I7 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 N1 Q0 O0

The only way (for me) to find out is to plug in all the flights MLE-HKG-YYZ-HKG-MLE on cx.com in order to find out.

Sep 15, 2014, 4:22 pm

#7112

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarusoba

Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
MLE  Male Ibrahim Nasir Intl MV [VRMM]
SUN  12 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------
CX         601     HKG   17:30     MLE   20:45     333      J9 C9 D9 I7 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 N1 Q0 O0

You can access the JP POS using the [Availability/ETR] Method, which is currently showing D0 for that flight:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3/Diamond - Availability/ETR/JP]

Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
MLE  Male Ibrahim Nasir Intl MV [VRMM]
SUN  12 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX         601     HKG   17:30     MLE   20:45     333  0   J9 C1
CX         617     HKG   21:20     BKK   23:10     333  0   D6
 -> PG     711     BKK   09:30     MLE   11:45     319  0   D4
CX         709     HKG   22:15     BKK   00:05 +1  773  0   D9
 -> PG     711     BKK   09:30 +1  MLE   11:45 +1  319  0   D4
CX         5782    HKG   08:00     CAN   08:55     333  0   J9
 -> CZ     3083    CAN   16:30     MLE   19:50     772  0   J3
CX         9201    HKG   01:30     DOH   05:40     332  0   C4
 -> QR     674     DOH   07:10     MLE   13:55     320  0   C7
CX         645     HKG   18:40     DOH   22:50     333  0   D1 I1
 -> QR     674     DOH   07:10     MLE   13:55     320  0   D4 I4
CX         1725    HKG   08:45     KUL   12:30     738  0   C4 D4
 -> MH     177     KUL   20:45     MLE   21:55     738  0   C4 D4
CX         725     HKG   12:50     KUL   16:40     333  0   J9 C6 D5 I5
 -> MH     177     KUL   20:45     MLE   21:55     738  0   J4 C4 D4 I4
CX         1713    HKG   13:00     KUL   16:50     738  0   J4 C4 D4
 -> MH     177     KUL   20:45     MLE   21:55     738  0   J4 C4 D4
CX         1727    HKG   14:45     KUL   18:25     772  0   J4 C4 D4 I4
 -> MH     177     KUL   20:45     MLE   21:55     738  0   J4 C4 D4 I4
CX         729     HKG   16:00     KUL   19:45     333  0   J9 C3 D3 I2
 -> MH     177     KUL   20:45     MLE   21:55     738  0   J4 C4 D4 I4
CX         659     HKG   01:35     SIN   05:15     77W  0   J9 C9
 -> SQ     462     SIN   10:10     MLE   11:35     333  0   J4 C6
CX         759     HKG   08:40     SIN   12:30     333  0   C9 D9
 -> SQ     452     SIN   20:45     MLE   22:10     333  0   C9 D2
CX         713     HKG   08:50     SIN   15:10     333  1   C4 D4
 -> SQ     452     SIN   20:45     MLE   22:10     333  0   C9 D2
CX         739     HKG   11:20     SIN   15:05     773  0   J5
 -> SQ     452     SIN   20:45     MLE   22:10     333  0   J9
CX         735     HKG   14:25     SIN   18:20     333  0   J9
 -> SQ     452     SIN   20:45     MLE   22:10     333  0   J9
CX         635     HKG   15:20     SIN   19:10     333  0   J9
 -> SQ     452     SIN   20:45     MLE   22:10     333  0   J9

Sep 15, 2014, 4:48 pm

#7113

jarusoba

Join Date: May 2007

Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia

Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt

Posts: 4,396

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

You can access the JP POS using the [Availability/ETR] Method, which is currently showing D0 for that flight:

Thank you, KVS. I hope the JP POS is showing the same availability as the POS that my ticket was issued on.

Sep 15, 2014, 9:05 pm

#7114

andy72

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Welcome to FT & the KVS Tool!

It's the latter -- the closest available outbound dates are noted below:

Thanks for that.

regards
Andy

Sep 18, 2014, 3:42 pm

#7115

bittihuduga

Join Date: Jun 2014

Location: DUB, CPH

Programs: SK, LH

Posts: 404

I'm new to Kvs tool.
Does this tool give me. List of all base fares from A to B for a x no. Of days?
I'm not looking into award tickets.

Sep 18, 2014, 5:32 pm

#7116

cmn.jcs

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: WAS

Posts: 3,012

Quote:

Originally Posted by bittihuduga

I'm new to Kvs tool.
Does this tool give me. List of all base fares from A to B for a x no. Of days?
I'm not looking into award tickets.

You can do a search for each day.

Sep 22, 2014, 7:22 pm

#7117

hookthem

Join Date: Jan 2011

Location: San Antonio, TX

Programs: 1K

Posts: 784

Entering GTC Credential

Hello! I am having a tough time entering my GTC credential in KVSTool. My understanding is that I have a Site Code, Site Code Password Key, User Name, and Password (User Name & Password is what I use to log in to the website).

Looking at the documentation, I have been entering:

Username: [Site Code]\[User Name]
Password: [Password]

I haven't had much success, and have tried misc combinations already. What is the proper syntax for entering my GTC credentials?

Sep 24, 2014, 4:22 am

#7118

ovidius13

Join Date: Oct 2008

Posts: 3

Unable to see EK / EY fares?

I've been looking at business class fares from FRA to MNL. I noticed that I cannot see any EK or EY fares for that route, even though they are available in ITA matrix:

Code:

11 Oct 2014
Emirates EK IEE1YDE1 FRA to MNL
Etihad Airways EY DRTDE FRA to MNL

When limiting to EY or EK in "Airline" field, KVS Tool returns the same set of results as when it is set to "All airlines" (see below).

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]

Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
MNL  Manila Ninoy Aquino Intl PH [RPLL]
R/T  11 Oct 2014 | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
MH         FRA     MNL      1485   EUR        ***    6   60  ZBT2MDE      05 Sep-30 Jun
CI         FRA     MNL      1553   EUR     7 Days        30  DAP1M        05 Sep-30 Jun
CI         FRA     MNL      1553   EUR     7 Days        30  YDAP1M       05 Sep-30 Jun
CI         FRA     MNL      1654   EUR        ***       180  DPP6M        05 Sep-30 Jun
CI         FRA     MNL      1654   EUR        ***       180  YDPP6M       05 Sep-30 Jun
BA         FRA     MNL      1732   EUR     7 Days  Sun  360  INCEURS      05 Sep-30 Jun
MU         FRA     MNL      1746   EUR        ***   28       I3SREUS      05 Sep-30 Jun
CI         FRA     MNL      1807   EUR     7 Days        30  DFAP1M       05 Sep-30 Jun
MU         FRA     MNL      1837   EUR        ***   14       I2SREUS      05 Sep-30 Jun
CI         FRA     MNL      1908   EUR        ***       180  DFPP6M       05 Sep-30 Jun
VN         FRA     MNL      1922   EUR        ***    6  180  D6MEU        05 Sep-30 Jun
MU         FRA     MNL      1928   EUR        ***            ISREUS       05 Sep-30 Jun
OS         FRA     MNL      2020   EUR        ***   10  360  PRCDE        05 Sep-30 Jun
VN         FRA     MNL      2030   EUR        ***    6  180  D6MEU        05 Sep-30 Jun
OS         FRA     MNL      2050   EUR        ***   10  360  PRCDE        05 Sep-30 Jun
MH         FRA     MNL      2065   EUR     7 Days    6  360  ZBZ1YDE      05 Sep-30 Jun
KU         FRA     MNL      2086   EUR        ***       180  CEE6MDE1     05 Sep-30 Jun
KL         FRA     MNL      2113   EUR    60 Days        30  ZCSQDE       05 Sep-30 Jun
SV         FRA     MNL      2130   EUR        ***       360  INATDAY      01 Oct-10 Dec
GF         FRA     MNL      2131   EUR        ***    3  360  DRTDE6       01 Oct-10 Dec
OZ         FRA     MNL      2272   EUR        ***        30  URX4DEPL     01 Oct-10 Dec
KU         FRA     MNL      2292   EUR        ***       180  CEE6MDE1     01 Oct-10 Dec
CZ         FRA     MNL      2294   EUR    45 Days    7  360  IAPDE6       01 Oct-10 Dec
OZ         FRA     MNL      2302   EUR        ***        30  URX4DE       01 Oct-10 Dec
QR         FRA     MNL      2311   EUR     7 Days    5  180  IXEE6MDE     01 Oct-10 Dec
CI         FRA     MNL      2314   EUR        ***       180  YCPP6M       01 Oct-10 Dec
CI         FRA     MNL      2314   EUR        ***       180  CPP6M        01 Oct-10 Dec
SV         FRA     MNL      2367   EUR        ***       360  IRTSVR       01 Jan-31 Dec

Availability shows up ok for both (here example for EK):
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
MNL  Manila Ninoy Aquino Intl PH [RPLL]
SAT  11 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------
EK         44      FRA   11:00     DXB   19:15     77W      F2 A0 J0 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
 -> EK     332     DXB   03:45 +1  MNL   16:35 +1  77W      J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
EK         46      FRA   15:20     DXB   23:35     388      F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P2 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
 -> EK     332     DXB   03:45 +1  MNL   16:35 +1  77W      J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
EK         46      FRA   15:20     DXB   23:35     388      F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P2 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
 -> EK     334     DXB   09:20 +1  MNL   22:10 +1  77W      J0 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V0 X0
EK         48      FRA   22:20     DXB   06:40 +1  77W      F2 A2 J4 C4 I0 O0 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H0 Q7 L0 T0 V0 X0
 -> EK     334     DXB   09:20 +1  MNL   22:10 +1  77W      J0 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V0 X0
EK         48      FRA   22:20     DXB   06:40 +1  77W      F2 A2 J4 C4 I0 O0 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H0 Q7 L0 T0 V0 X0
 -> EK     336     DXB   18:15 +1  MNL   07:05 +2  77W      J4 C4 I4 O7 P2 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X0

What is wrong?

Sep 24, 2014, 8:27 am

#7119

iluvdoco

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I'm trying to find DOH-LHR availability in F on QR's A380 (QR003) for the month of August '15. Using the BA-Search Tool and the latest version of KVS.

However, I can't find anything. Is QR just not giving up award space on that route?

Last edited by iluvdoco; Sep 24, 2014 at 8:36 am

Sep 25, 2014, 7:55 am

#7120

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bittihuduga

I'm new to Kvs tool.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bittihuduga

Does this tool give me. List of all base fares from A to B for a x no. Of days?
I'm not looking into award tickets.

Yes, it does (subject to Fare Seasonality restrictions, if applicable).

Sep 25, 2014, 7:57 am

#7121

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hookthem

Hello! I am having a tough time entering my GTC credential in KVSTool.

YGM!

Sep 25, 2014, 8:04 am

#7122

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ovidius13

I've been looking at business class fares from FRA to MNL. I noticed that I cannot see any EK or EY fares for that route, even though they are available in ITA matrix:

Code:

11 Oct 2014
Emirates EK IEE1YDE1 FRA to MNL
Etihad Airways EY DRTDE FRA to MNL

When limiting to EY or EK in "Airline" field, KVS Tool returns the same set of results as when it is set to "All airlines" (see below).

Availability shows up ok for both (here example for EK):

What is wrong?

The [Fares/PSH] Engine is unable to restrict the results to certain airlines (such as EK). In such cases, all Fares (incl. EK Fares) will be shown, if applicable.

However, the IEE1YDE1 Fare is more expensive than the lowest ~30 Fares on that route:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3 - Routing Rules: FRA-MNL/EK/IEE1YDE1/3605 USD]

Code:

FRAMNL-EK 25SEP14      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0004 RULE DE02 
                          
   -FARE BASIS         EUR       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
IEE1YDE1        R   2830.00   3848.32               ADT  EX  EH 
IEE1YDE1CH      R   2123.00   2886.24               CNN  EX  EH 
IEE1YDE1CH      R   2830.00   3848.32               UNN  EX  EH 
IEE1YDE1IN      R    283.00    384.83               INF  EX  EH 
IEE1YDE1IN      R   2123.00   2886.24               INS  EX  EH 

BOOKING CODES        I                                          

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION              
MPM - EH  8578 VIA EASTERN HEMISPHERE

---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  710 FROM-TO  FRA-EK/QF-DXB-EK/QF-MNL*                  
             FROM-TO  FRA-EK/QF-DXB-CMB-MNL*                    
             FROM-TO  FRA-EK/QF-DXB-MNL*

Sep 25, 2014, 8:50 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvdoco

They do-- here is an example:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]

Code:

DOH  Doha Hamad Intl QA [OTHH]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  14 Apr 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
QR         11      DOH   01:50     LHR   07:15              FS2  CS0  WS/
QR         7       DOH   06:45     LHR   12:00              CS0  WS/  YS9
QR         3       DOH   07:55     LHR   13:15              CS0  WS/  YS8
QR         1       DOH   12:30     LHR   17:55              CS0  WS/  YS9
QR         15      DOH   14:50     LHR   20:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS/
QR         5       DOH   16:35     LHR   22:00              FS1  CS0  WS/  YS9
BA         124     DOH   23:15     LHR   06:25 +1           FS0  CS0  WS2  YS0
QR         203     DOH   13:10     ATH   18:10              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS0
 -> BA     633     ATH   19:30     LHR   21:15              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS-
QR         139     DOH   08:20     BCN   14:15              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     475     BCN   16:10     LHR   17:30              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         195     DOH   02:15     BRU   07:35              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     391     BRU   09:45     LHR   10:00              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         1024    DOH   06:00     DXB   08:10              FS0  YS9
 -> BA     108     DXB   09:30     LHR   14:05              FS-  CS-  WS+  YS-
QR         113     DOH   08:20     FCO   13:25              FS/  CS3  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     547     FCO   15:15     LHR   16:55              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         109     DOH   13:50     FCO   18:50              FS/  CS2  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     555     FCO   20:15     LHR   21:50              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         67      DOH   08:15     FRA   13:35              CS0  WS/  YS8
 -> BA     905     FRA   14:35     LHR   15:25              CS-  WS/  YS+
QR         103     DOH   08:30     GVA   14:10              CS0  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     731     GVA   15:25     LHR   16:05              CS-  WS/  YS+
QR         57      DOH   08:15     MUC   13:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     953     MUC   16:25     LHR   17:25              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         121     DOH   13:40     MXP   19:05              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     581     MXP   21:55     LHR   22:45              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         75      DOH   08:35     TXL   14:00              CS0  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     985     TXL   16:50     LHR   17:45              CS-  WS/  YS+
QR         183     DOH   08:35     VIE   13:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     701     VIE   14:10     LHR   15:35              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         183     DOH   08:35     VIE   13:25              FS/  CS4  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     703     VIE   15:35     LHR   16:50              FS/  CS+  WS/  YS+
QR         95      DOH   08:20     ZRH   13:35              CS0  WS/  YS9
 -> BA     715     ZRH   15:45     LHR   16:30              CS-  WS/  YS+

Sep 25, 2014, 5:11 pm

#7124

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I'm not seeing any South African Airways award availability on any route until end of schedule, using any of the 3 star alliance methods - seems broken.

Sep 26, 2014, 11:06 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AArdvark0

I'm not seeing any South African Airways award availability on any route until end of schedule, using any of the 3 star alliance methods - seems broken.

Indeed, SA appears to be currently experiencing system issues with their Award Availability.