KVS Availability Tool vs. ExpertFlyer
Mar 11, 2012, 11:44 am
#61
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As a previous KVS user, the database checks were quite accurate.
I had no issues booking a 10 segment reward ticket using Star Alliance Reward Availability.
There have been some anecdotal reports of the reservations desk using an older system that doesn't see the same inventory that KVS sees, however that problem would be with the reservation desk (Aeroplan), not with KVS. In other words, accurate.
Good luck.
I had no issues booking a 10 segment reward ticket using Star Alliance Reward Availability.
There have been some anecdotal reports of the reservations desk using an older system that doesn't see the same inventory that KVS sees, however that problem would be with the reservation desk (Aeroplan), not with KVS. In other words, accurate.
Good luck.
Mar 11, 2012, 2:59 pm
#62
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I am a heavy expertflyer user on a multitude of airlines (both looking at rev buckets to upgrade as well as premium award tickets) and some airlines they have access to upgrade cabins and awards avail and others (like CX) they don't have access.
With CX, I find the loads in the premium cabins (which I follow with CX) are pretty darn accurate.
With CX, I find the loads in the premium cabins (which I follow with CX) are pretty darn accurate.
Mar 12, 2012, 2:41 pm
#63
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Mar 12, 2012, 3:15 pm
#64
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+1 for AwardNexus. Free CX data available for free without a tool to download.
Mar 14, 2012, 1:32 pm
#66
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Only a few seats left. Book now!
How accurate is the online booking regarding remaining seats? Did a dummy booking for economy and site says "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for both directions. Went to Seat selection and counted over 38 seats available for Departure and Return. No sure if 38 seats or more available is CX's term for "Only a few seats left. Book now!" Am I missing something? LOL
Last edited by travelbug38; Mar 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Mar 14, 2012, 2:09 pm
#67
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How accurate is the online booking regarding remaining seats? Did a dummy booking for economy and site says "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for both directions. Went to Seat selection and counted over 38 seats available for Departure and Return. No sure if 38 seats or more available is CX's term for "Only a few seats left. Book now!" Am I missing something? LOL
Mar 15, 2012, 10:40 am
#68
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How accurate is the online booking regarding remaining seats? Did a dummy booking for economy and site says "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for both directions. Went to Seat selection and counted over 38 seats available for Departure and Return. No sure if 38 seats or more available is CX's term for "Only a few seats left. Book now!" Am I missing something? LOL
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q2
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q3
Mar 15, 2012, 2:30 pm
#69
Join Date: Feb 2012
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The seat map shows the available seats for selection as where you want to park your rear. What's so confusing about it that you are taking me for.. ??? with simple different terms of seats available and no seats available for pre-assignment.
Unless you have a better interpretation similar to CX. Which is --having more than 38 seats choice in the SEAT MAP is same as "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for AVAILABILITY. What a joke. To me this is a sales gimmick to get pax buy the ticket early on to fill the seats.
Unless you have a better interpretation similar to CX. Which is --having more than 38 seats choice in the SEAT MAP is same as "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for AVAILABILITY. What a joke. To me this is a sales gimmick to get pax buy the ticket early on to fill the seats.
You appear to be confusing Availability and Seat Maps:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q2
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q3
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q2
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q3
Last edited by travelbug38; Mar 15, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Mar 15, 2012, 2:40 pm
#70
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The seat map shows the available seats for selection as where you want to park your rear. What's so confusing about it that you are taking me for.. ???
Unless you have a better interpretation similar to CX. Which is --having more than 38 seats choice in the SEAT MAP is same as "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for AVAILABILITY. What a joke.
Unless you have a better interpretation similar to CX. Which is --having more than 38 seats choice in the SEAT MAP is same as "Only a few seats left. Book now!" for AVAILABILITY. What a joke.
It is perfectly normal to have 38 (or even 138) unassigned seats on the Seat Map and, say, only 5 seats Available for sale (which would trigger that message).
Mar 15, 2012, 3:23 pm
#71
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Now you are talking. Is is also legally correct for that particular price range but morally questionable. Since, when looking forward many months ahead I see the same message with almost identical pattern blocks of "available seats" for selection within in this case, CX's website. So sorry for the unsuspecting customer to purchase right away thinking that "Only a few seats left" and then the price drops or when more seats are released by the airline at a more attrative rate.
Mar 15, 2012, 4:27 pm
#73
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For CX award availability, use asiamiles or BA's (when no ba flight, it switch to parters' automatically).
but they can't distinguish saver award and standard award, for example, using aa miles
but they can't distinguish saver award and standard award, for example, using aa miles
Mar 17, 2012, 12:32 pm
#74
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KVS collects info from those sites and puts it into a nice format for you to use.
Mar 22, 2012, 9:48 pm
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