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ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
#1351
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Programs: Lufthansa , British Airways, IHG, Hilton, Marriott
Posts: 161
Its a POS restriction and we cant see the I class for all your flights. I have software that checks the main POS and its not quoting on that either.
if you change the flight number, and delay the return by 24 hours, its available.
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AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
LON
XDXB QF 8030 I I 22DEC 1615 I7AGB 22DEC22DEC 40
BKK QF 8418 I I 23DEC 0855 I7AGB 23DEC23DEC 40
XDXB QF 8371 I I 08JAN 0200 I7AGB 08JAN08JAN 40
LON QF 9 I I 08JAN 0830 I7AGB 08JAN08JAN 40
GBP 956.00 22DEC17LON QF X/DXB Q25.32QF BKK573.61QF
X/DXB Q37.98QF LON573.61NUC1210.52END ROE
GBP 628.00YQ 0.789732
GBP 150.00GB XT GBP 42.55UB GBP 15.20F6 GBP 0.80E7 GBP
GBP 75.95XT 0.30G8 GBP 0.80E7 GBP 0.30G8 GBP 16.00TS
GBP 1809.95
Hope this helps
Barry
#1352
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
Programs: Air: QR Silver. BA Silver Emirates, Hotels: CC Gold, IHG Spire AMB, Hilton Diamond.
Posts: 1,487
Any idea how to find which OTAs are offering a fare ITA Matrix finds ??
Without going to every single one that exists ?!
Bookingwithmatrix tool doesn't find it :-(
https://bookwithmatrix.com/a57b4efc3...301ae0a3fb8b3d
Cologne (CGN) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Fri, Feb 24
Long layover
Cologne (CGN) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Feb 24
Pegasus 398
Dep: 2:10 am
Arr: 7:10 am
3h 0m
Airbus A320
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
17h 20m
Istanbul (SAW) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Sat, Feb 25
Pegasus 594
Dep: 12:30 am
Arr: 2:10 am
2h 40m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Long layover
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 4499
Dep: 4:05 am
Arr: 7:50 am
2h 45m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
14h 35m
Istanbul (SAW) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 519
Dep: 10:25 pm
Arr: 11:40 pm
4h 15m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
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Cologne (CGN) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Fri, Feb 24
Long layover
Cologne (CGN) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Feb 24
Pegasus 398
Dep: 2:10 am
Arr: 7:10 am
3h 0m
Airbus A320
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
17h 20m
Istanbul (SAW) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Sat, Feb 25
Pegasus 594
Dep: 12:30 am
Arr: 2:10 am
2h 40m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Long layover
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 4499
Dep: 4:05 am
Arr: 7:50 am
2h 45m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
14h 35m
Istanbul (SAW) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 519
Dep: 10:25 pm
Arr: 11:40 pm
4h 15m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Mileage
4,699 total miles
CO2 Emissions
559 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Cologne/Bonn (CGN)
Sharm el-Sheikh International (SSH)
London Stansted (STN)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen (SAW)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
€200.90
Total cost for 1 passenger
€200.90
How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier PC IRTBYD CGN to SSH (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers CGN-SAW (Economy), SAW-SSH (Economy)
€59.50
Fare 2: Carrier PC IRTBYD SSH to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers SSH-SAW (Economy), SAW-STN (Economy)
€56.25
Turkey Airport Service Charge International (TR)
€10.00
PC YQ surcharge (YQ)
€37.68
Germany Airport Security Charge (DE)
€6.35
Germany Passenger Service Charge International Departure (RA)
€1.76
Germany Air Transport Tax (OY)
€7.47
Egypt Departure Fee (JK)
€2.81
Egypt Embarkation Tax (QH)
€18.83
Subtotal per passenger
€200.90
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
€200.90
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
CGN PC X/IST PC SSH 63.61IRTBYD PC X/IST PC STN 60.14IRTBYD NUC 123.75 END ROE 0.935287 XT 6.35DE 7.47OY 1.76RA 10.00TR 2.81JK 18.83QH 37.68YQ
Total Airfare & Taxes
€200.90
Without going to every single one that exists ?!
Bookingwithmatrix tool doesn't find it :-(
https://bookwithmatrix.com/a57b4efc3...301ae0a3fb8b3d
Cologne (CGN) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Fri, Feb 24
Long layover
Cologne (CGN) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Feb 24
Pegasus 398
Dep: 2:10 am
Arr: 7:10 am
3h 0m
Airbus A320
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
17h 20m
Istanbul (SAW) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Sat, Feb 25
Pegasus 594
Dep: 12:30 am
Arr: 2:10 am
2h 40m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Long layover
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 4499
Dep: 4:05 am
Arr: 7:50 am
2h 45m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
14h 35m
Istanbul (SAW) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 519
Dep: 10:25 pm
Arr: 11:40 pm
4h 15m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Matrix Airfare Search
Help Send Feedback
Modify search
Calendar
Flights
Itinerary
Itinerary details
Itinerary
Cologne (CGN) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Fri, Feb 24
Long layover
Cologne (CGN) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Feb 24
Pegasus 398
Dep: 2:10 am
Arr: 7:10 am
3h 0m
Airbus A320
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
17h 20m
Istanbul (SAW) to Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) — Sat, Feb 25
Pegasus 594
Dep: 12:30 am
Arr: 2:10 am
2h 40m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Long layover
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) to Istanbul (SAW) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 4499
Dep: 4:05 am
Arr: 7:50 am
2h 45m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Layover in SAW
14h 35m
Istanbul (SAW) to London (STN) — Fri, Mar 17
Pegasus 519
Dep: 10:25 pm
Arr: 11:40 pm
4h 15m
Boeing 737
Economy (I)
Mileage
4,699 total miles
CO2 Emissions
559 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Cologne/Bonn (CGN)
Sharm el-Sheikh International (SSH)
London Stansted (STN)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen (SAW)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
€200.90
Total cost for 1 passenger
€200.90
How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier PC IRTBYD CGN to SSH (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers CGN-SAW (Economy), SAW-SSH (Economy)
€59.50
Fare 2: Carrier PC IRTBYD SSH to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers SSH-SAW (Economy), SAW-STN (Economy)
€56.25
Turkey Airport Service Charge International (TR)
€10.00
PC YQ surcharge (YQ)
€37.68
Germany Airport Security Charge (DE)
€6.35
Germany Passenger Service Charge International Departure (RA)
€1.76
Germany Air Transport Tax (OY)
€7.47
Egypt Departure Fee (JK)
€2.81
Egypt Embarkation Tax (QH)
€18.83
Subtotal per passenger
€200.90
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
€200.90
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
CGN PC X/IST PC SSH 63.61IRTBYD PC X/IST PC STN 60.14IRTBYD NUC 123.75 END ROE 0.935287 XT 6.35DE 7.47OY 1.76RA 10.00TR 2.81JK 18.83QH 37.68YQ
Total Airfare & Taxes
€200.90
#1353
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,994
Any idea how to find which OTAs are offering a fare ITA Matrix finds ??
Without going to every single one that exists ?!
Bookingwithmatrix tool doesn't find it :-(
https://bookwithmatrix.com/a57b4efc3...301ae0a3fb8b3d
...
Without going to every single one that exists ?!
Bookingwithmatrix tool doesn't find it :-(
https://bookwithmatrix.com/a57b4efc3...301ae0a3fb8b3d
...
#1354
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,123
Have you tried http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-lh-lx-tk.html ?
@Sisyphus1carus ... it take some work to set up the power tools but in the end they will save you an enormous amount of time and work.
Last edited by cheltzel; Feb 16, 2017 at 11:34 am
#1355
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 6
Sorry if this has already been answered, couldnt find it.
How do you search for stopovers in Matrix?
i.e. I'd like to find the cheapest way to do LAX-NBO r/t in J for 14-21 days sometime starting 7/21/17 with a 5-7 day stopover in either CDG or AMS in either direction. I can search for that with a multi-segment search but have to try each date combination manually.
How do you search for stopovers in Matrix?
i.e. I'd like to find the cheapest way to do LAX-NBO r/t in J for 14-21 days sometime starting 7/21/17 with a 5-7 day stopover in either CDG or AMS in either direction. I can search for that with a multi-segment search but have to try each date combination manually.
#1357
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,123
If you have any background in software and scripting it should be a piece of cake. But if you don't have a tech background, you might need assistance. Let us know if you need help.
#1358
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,994
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How do you search for stopovers in Matrix?
i.e. I'd like to find the cheapest way to do LAX-NBO r/t in J for 14-21 days sometime starting 7/21/17 with a 5-7 day stopover in either CDG or AMS in either direction. I can search for that with a multi-segment search but have to try each date combination manually.
How do you search for stopovers in Matrix?
i.e. I'd like to find the cheapest way to do LAX-NBO r/t in J for 14-21 days sometime starting 7/21/17 with a 5-7 day stopover in either CDG or AMS in either direction. I can search for that with a multi-segment search but have to try each date combination manually.
#1359
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Valencia, Spain
Programs: Pascal and Python, no C++
Posts: 738
How? Are we talking about the "See calendar of lowest fares" option? This only appears in the round-trip and one-way tabs in my matrix, not in the multi-city tab
Same for GoogleFlights and just about any OTA and meta-search engine I can think of.
Same for GoogleFlights and just about any OTA and meta-search engine I can think of.
#1360
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,994
#1361
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Valencia, Spain
Programs: Pascal and Python, no C++
Posts: 738
Sorry if this has already been answered, couldnt find it.
How do you search for stopovers in Matrix?
i.e. I'd like to find the cheapest way to do LAX-NBO r/t in J for 14-21 days sometime starting 7/21/17 with a 5-7 day stopover in either CDG or AMS in either direction. I can search for that with a multi-segment search but have to try each date combination manually.
How do you search for stopovers in Matrix?
i.e. I'd like to find the cheapest way to do LAX-NBO r/t in J for 14-21 days sometime starting 7/21/17 with a 5-7 day stopover in either CDG or AMS in either direction. I can search for that with a multi-segment search but have to try each date combination manually.
You can use the calendar search option of round trip, specifiying AMS,CDG / minconnect 1440 as advanced routing code (of one direction, I guess) to search for stopover > 24hrs.
Theoretically you could specify 5 days times 24 hours times 60 minutes (minconnect 7200), but I wasn't successful with these kind of searches.
Once you have a good candidate fare and starting date you can finetune the stopover length.
#1362
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC//TLV
Programs: DL-PM; Marriott-Plat; SPG (soon RIP) - Plat, and e/t connected to AMEX Plat
Posts: 112
JFK-ORD with added segments
Maybe my methodology is wrong... but I'm looking for flights with extra stops between NYC-ORD to beef up on Delta MQS.
Just got new role in my company which will require heavy travel to/from Chicago.
Currently I search matrix for flights departing NYC and arriving ORD, RT, with the top 100 US airport list added to the advanced routing codes (removing ORD, JFK, EWR, LGA). I toggle the option for up to 2 extra stops.
This search keeps erroring out.
Any advice?
Thanks
Just got new role in my company which will require heavy travel to/from Chicago.
Currently I search matrix for flights departing NYC and arriving ORD, RT, with the top 100 US airport list added to the advanced routing codes (removing ORD, JFK, EWR, LGA). I toggle the option for up to 2 extra stops.
This search keeps erroring out.
Any advice?
Thanks
#1363
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: NYC
Programs: DL ✈️
Posts: 638
Maybe my methodology is wrong... but I'm looking for flights with extra stops between NYC-ORD to beef up on Delta MQS.
Just got new role in my company which will require heavy travel to/from Chicago.
Currently I search matrix for flights departing NYC and arriving ORD, RT, with the top 100 US airport list added to the advanced routing codes (removing ORD, JFK, EWR, LGA). I toggle the option for up to 2 extra stops.
This search keeps erroring out.
Any advice?
Thanks
Just got new role in my company which will require heavy travel to/from Chicago.
Currently I search matrix for flights departing NYC and arriving ORD, RT, with the top 100 US airport list added to the advanced routing codes (removing ORD, JFK, EWR, LGA). I toggle the option for up to 2 extra stops.
This search keeps erroring out.
Any advice?
Thanks
I'd recommend only inputting delta hubs (LAX, SLC, MSP, ATL) or trying DL+ as the advanced config. The max miles permitted (MPM) may make this difficult.
#1364
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC//TLV
Programs: DL-PM; Marriott-Plat; SPG (soon RIP) - Plat, and e/t connected to AMEX Plat
Posts: 112
https://goo.gl/flights/f5Nz
#1365
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Maybe my methodology is wrong... but I'm looking for flights with extra stops between NYC-ORD to beef up on Delta MQS.
Just got new role in my company which will require heavy travel to/from Chicago.
Currently I search matrix for flights departing NYC and arriving ORD, RT, with the top 100 US airport list added to the advanced routing codes (removing ORD, JFK, EWR, LGA). I toggle the option for up to 2 extra stops.
This search keeps erroring out.
Any advice?
Thanks
Just got new role in my company which will require heavy travel to/from Chicago.
Currently I search matrix for flights departing NYC and arriving ORD, RT, with the top 100 US airport list added to the advanced routing codes (removing ORD, JFK, EWR, LGA). I toggle the option for up to 2 extra stops.
This search keeps erroring out.
Any advice?
Thanks
That will ensure at least three DL flights.