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ExpertFlyer.com Help Desk Thread
Jun 16, 2019, 10:43 am
#1996
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,145
Whenever I see orange seats in UA F seat maps, I have been able to select them. Blocked UA seats traditionally appear on their maps as taken or do not appear at all.
Jun 16, 2019, 12:31 pm
#1997
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
As to why UA is returning the available seats as blocked if you request First vs Business that you would have to ask United.
Jun 16, 2019, 1:09 pm
#1998
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,145
The issue is they are not F seats, they are J seats. If you request the cabin as Business then you see the available seats as available. If you do a Flight Availability search you'll see that UA isn't telling "First" on the flight, that cabin is sold as business. On UA.com you'll see the cabin class as "D" which is a Business class fare code.
As to why UA is returning the available seats as blocked if you request First vs Business that you would have to ask United.
As to why UA is returning the available seats as blocked if you request First vs Business that you would have to ask United.
Jun 16, 2019, 4:00 pm
#1999
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
Yes they are being sold as Business because if you look at the details of the flight on UA.com and look at the booking class it's "D" which is a Business fare, not a first Fare, which is likely why UA is only showing the seats as available when the Business cabin is requested. Either way it's not an EF issue, we are returning what the UA response is for the cabin requested.
Jun 16, 2019, 4:39 pm
#2000
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,145
As we explained, if you request it as the Business cabin they do show as selectable, please try that.
Yes they are being sold as Business because if you look at the details of the flight on UA.com and look at the booking class it's "D" which is a Business fare, not a first Fare, which is likely why UA is only showing the seats as available when the Business cabin is requested. Either way it's not an EF issue, we are returning what the UA response is for the cabin requested.
Yes they are being sold as Business because if you look at the details of the flight on UA.com and look at the booking class it's "D" which is a Business fare, not a first Fare, which is likely why UA is only showing the seats as available when the Business cabin is requested. Either way it's not an EF issue, we are returning what the UA response is for the cabin requested.
Jun 17, 2019, 2:29 pm
#2001
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
EDIT: Nevermind.
Has tEF eliminated the option to search for RTW and similar fares?
I keep getting the following error message on EF: The Departure and Arrival airports must be different.
Has tEF eliminated the option to search for RTW and similar fares?
I keep getting the following error message on EF: The Departure and Arrival airports must be different.
Last edited by Jasper2009; Jun 17, 2019 at 2:44 pm
Jun 17, 2019, 2:39 pm
#2002
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
- I entered PER as the origin and destination airports and QF as the carrier
- Got the expected Oneworld RTW fares listed
The Fare Information page still displays "To perform an Around the World (RTW) fare search, use the same Departing and Arriving airport codes."
So, are you sure you were on the Fare Information page?
Jun 17, 2019, 2:46 pm
#2003
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
I just tested it - it's working fine for me
- I entered PER as the origin and destination airports and QF as the carrier
- Got the expected Oneworld RTW fares listed
The Fare Information page still displays "To perform an Around the World (RTW) fare search, use the same Departing and Arriving airport codes."
So, are you sure you were on the Fare Information page?
Jun 18, 2019, 10:05 am
#2004
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 398
Help interpreting flight comments in EF
Hi all,
Expertflyer returned the following additional comments regarding my delayed flight today. Can I ask for help interpreting them? My hypothesis is that AA took our plane in order to use it for another flight whose incoming plane was delayed, but I don't know if that's what these comments mean or not.
Thanks so much for your help,
saunders111
ORD 1014A T3 K6
ABQ 4 B3 1217P 107P B3
ORD - T3 H12 510P
3ORD/ETD1137 LAE-PREVIOUS DELAY OF THIS AIRCRAFT *0848
7ORD/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA1356ORD18JUN *0907*CRCYMG
2ABQ/PRE1340 *0848
3ABQ/ETD1425 LAE-PREVIOUS DELAY OF THIS AIRCRAFT *0850
7ABQ/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA1356ABQ18JUN *0910*CRCYMG
2ORD*/PRE1828 *0850
Expertflyer returned the following additional comments regarding my delayed flight today. Can I ask for help interpreting them? My hypothesis is that AA took our plane in order to use it for another flight whose incoming plane was delayed, but I don't know if that's what these comments mean or not.
Thanks so much for your help,
saunders111
ORD 1014A T3 K6
ABQ 4 B3 1217P 107P B3
ORD - T3 H12 510P
3ORD/ETD1137 LAE-PREVIOUS DELAY OF THIS AIRCRAFT *0848
7ORD/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA1356ORD18JUN *0907*CRCYMG
2ABQ/PRE1340 *0848
3ABQ/ETD1425 LAE-PREVIOUS DELAY OF THIS AIRCRAFT *0850
7ABQ/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA1356ABQ18JUN *0910*CRCYMG
2ORD*/PRE1828 *0850
Jun 24, 2019, 1:11 am
#2005
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 19
ExpertFlyer Newbie: Business Seat Availability
I am a newbie and looking at flight J2 016 for Aug 10 and looks like there are 12 business seats available (C6, Z4, A2) but the jet is an A319 with only 8 seats in business class. Then upon further investigation, this seems to be the norm, at least with J2. So what's going on here? Do they keep more than normal biz seats available and in case they sell out all 12, they swap the plane? Do all airlines do this?
Last edited by ktosayev; Jun 24, 2019 at 1:31 am Reason: 8 seats in J, not 4. typos
Jun 24, 2019, 1:20 am
#2006
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,027
I am a newbie and looking at flight J2 016 for Aug 10 and looks like there are 12 business seats available (C6, Z4, A2) but the jet is an A319 with only 4 seats in business class. Then upon further investigation, this seems to be the norm, at least with J2. So what's going on here? Do they keep more than normal biz seats available and in case they sell out all 12, they swap the plane? Do all airlines do this?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/j216
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_Airlines
Some Eu airlines have a movable curtain business/economy. Same seats for business as economy, but business has the middle seat unused.
But no idea if J2 do that
Jun 24, 2019, 1:30 am
#2007
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 19
Is this from from DXB to GYD on Azerbaijan Airlines J2 16
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/j216
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_Airlines
Some Eu airlines have a movable curtain business/economy. Same seats for business as economy, but business has the middle seat unused.
But no idea if J2 do that
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/j216
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_Airlines
Some Eu airlines have a movable curtain business/economy. Same seats for business as economy, but business has the middle seat unused.
But no idea if J2 do that
PS Just realized I made a mistake and said 4 seats in J but it's actually 8 (4 blocked) but still availability on ExpertFlyer is for 12.
Jun 24, 2019, 1:45 am
#2008
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,027
Airlines can change aircraft type on any route, subject to forecast demand and overall planning
Jun 24, 2019, 10:25 am
#2009
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
I am a newbie and looking at flight J2 016 for Aug 10 and looks like there are 12 business seats available (C6, Z4, A2) but the jet is an A319 with only 8 seats in business class. Then upon further investigation, this seems to be the norm, at least with J2. So what's going on here? Do they keep more than normal biz seats available and in case they sell out all 12, they swap the plane? Do all airlines do this?
Jun 24, 2019, 1:41 pm
#2010
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 19