Phones without the camera.
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Phones without the camera.
Many defense contractors do not allow cell phone with cameras into their buildings. Are there any 3G cell phones without a camera?
The local security officer makes the rules using "better safte than sorry logic". Many Govt agencies do not restrict cell phones with a camera, but contractors do. On one occasion, I wet to IDA (Institute of Defense Analysis), a Congress funded corporation that evalauates various defense platforms, and asked them if I should leave my cell phone with reception as it had a camera, they looked puzzled. They saw no reason why I could not take the cell phone with me.
The local security officer makes the rules using "better safte than sorry logic". Many Govt agencies do not restrict cell phones with a camera, but contractors do. On one occasion, I wet to IDA (Institute of Defense Analysis), a Congress funded corporation that evalauates various defense platforms, and asked them if I should leave my cell phone with reception as it had a camera, they looked puzzled. They saw no reason why I could not take the cell phone with me.
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Many defense contractors do not allow cell phone with cameras into their buildings. Are there any 3G cell phones without a camera?
The local security officer makes the rules using "better safte than sorry logic". Many Govt agencies do not restrict cell phones with a camera, but contractors do. On one occasion, I wet to IDA (Institute of Defense Analysis), a Congress funded corporation that evalauates various defense platforms, and asked them if I should leave my cell phone with reception as it had a camera, they looked puzzled. They saw no reason why I could not take the cell phone with me.
The local security officer makes the rules using "better safte than sorry logic". Many Govt agencies do not restrict cell phones with a camera, but contractors do. On one occasion, I wet to IDA (Institute of Defense Analysis), a Congress funded corporation that evalauates various defense platforms, and asked them if I should leave my cell phone with reception as it had a camera, they looked puzzled. They saw no reason why I could not take the cell phone with me.
Nokia E61
Nokia E51
Sony Ericsson M600i
Sony Ericsson G700
As for newer phones they are getting harder and harder to get without a camera. You should look into business phones, those usually have the option to not have a camera. I also know that some blacberry's like the 8800 and the new tour don't have camera or have a model without a camera.
Good luck!
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Off the top of my head these GSM w/3G don't have cameras. Note these phone are older so maybe harder to come by:
Nokia E61
Nokia E51
Sony Ericsson M600i
Sony Ericsson G700
As for newer phones they are getting harder and harder to get without a camera. You should look into business phones, those usually have the option to not have a camera. I also know that some blacberry's like the 8800 and the new tour don't have camera or have a model without a camera.
Good luck!
Nokia E61
Nokia E51
Sony Ericsson M600i
Sony Ericsson G700
As for newer phones they are getting harder and harder to get without a camera. You should look into business phones, those usually have the option to not have a camera. I also know that some blacberry's like the 8800 and the new tour don't have camera or have a model without a camera.
Good luck!
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There are only a handful of phones that work on the tmobile US 3G frequency. So, getting one with those specs without a camera is close to impossible.
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Thats correct, all of the phones out for T-mobile 3G have a camera in them. I can't seem to find any unlocked phones without a camera either.
Your best bet would be to wait till T-mobile launches a 3G blackberry on their network. Usually there is blackberry intended for business users that does not include a camera.
Other manufacturers sometime release so called "Business Edition" phones that often times do not include a camera. Just keep an eye out.
Your best bet would be to wait till T-mobile launches a 3G blackberry on their network. Usually there is blackberry intended for business users that does not include a camera.
Other manufacturers sometime release so called "Business Edition" phones that often times do not include a camera. Just keep an eye out.
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I never understood the logic of the no camera policy. Cameras have gotten so small these days, it would be very easy to sneak one most anywhere - unless you are in the few locations that basically do a strip search of workers (saw something like this about the diamond industry - probably Discovery channel). There are also USB drives, phones with USB ports, e-mail and all kinds of other ways to steal data instead of taking pictures of it.
In my facility I did have to sign something stating I would not take personal photographs in the facility, but they don't have a problem with my blackberry. I did even use it to e-mail a picture to a supplier concerning a problem of a completly non-classified component.
In my facility I did have to sign something stating I would not take personal photographs in the facility, but they don't have a problem with my blackberry. I did even use it to e-mail a picture to a supplier concerning a problem of a completly non-classified component.
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I never understood the logic of the no camera policy. Cameras have gotten so small these days, it would be very easy to sneak one most anywhere - unless you are in the few locations that basically do a strip search of workers (saw something like this about the diamond industry - probably Discovery channel). There are also USB drives, phones with USB ports, e-mail and all kinds of other ways to steal data instead of taking pictures of it.
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Many defense contractors do not allow cell phone with cameras into their buildings. Are there any 3G cell phones without a camera?
The local security officer makes the rules using "better safte than sorry logic". Many Govt agencies do not restrict cell phones with a camera, but contractors do. On one occasion, I wet to IDA (Institute of Defense Analysis), a Congress funded corporation that evalauates various defense platforms, and asked them if I should leave my cell phone with reception as it had a camera, they looked puzzled. They saw no reason why I could not take the cell phone with me.
The local security officer makes the rules using "better safte than sorry logic". Many Govt agencies do not restrict cell phones with a camera, but contractors do. On one occasion, I wet to IDA (Institute of Defense Analysis), a Congress funded corporation that evalauates various defense platforms, and asked them if I should leave my cell phone with reception as it had a camera, they looked puzzled. They saw no reason why I could not take the cell phone with me.
Any agency/company that's serious about security simply won't allow you to bring in ANY cell phones or other portable electronics, and will use metal detectors/x-ray/etc to enforce that rule. If they are just saying "no cell phones with cameras" and not following up with any sort of physical search/enforcement, they clearly aren't serious about the rule.
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