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#361
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Couple of guys are already camped out in NYC for this freaking phone:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/video/exc...-ny-272140.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/video/exc...-ny-272140.php
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One thing that appears to be unique is the HTML mail? It probably needs a decent processor and RAM for rendering it.
Same for playing videos on the screen. I think iTunes Store videos are now 640x480, with hints of HD soon? So does it downscale to 320x480 or whatever the resolution is?
Same for playing videos on the screen. I think iTunes Store videos are now 640x480, with hints of HD soon? So does it downscale to 320x480 or whatever the resolution is?
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It is much easier for Apple to control everything if it is branded and locked to one carrier. Apple is all about total control as are the USA mobile operators.
There is no doubt that Apple looked at the economics of being and MVNO and decided that would be the worm. So, if you want to start in your own backyard, and then move to the world, who would you turn to? The new ATT of course; They use GSM, they are bigger than TMo and they know and appreciate proprietary, and they would sell their souls to the devil for some short-term bump in revenue and a slight up tick in customers.
The new ATT is giving up lots to let Apple have this experiment before they go global and only Apple branded.
Me, I am going to sit this one out. Watch and see what happens and hope I can pick an N95 cheap in a few months when someone gets tired of their new toy. I doubt I will ever own an iPhone, but never say never.
There is no doubt that Apple looked at the economics of being and MVNO and decided that would be the worm. So, if you want to start in your own backyard, and then move to the world, who would you turn to? The new ATT of course; They use GSM, they are bigger than TMo and they know and appreciate proprietary, and they would sell their souls to the devil for some short-term bump in revenue and a slight up tick in customers.
The new ATT is giving up lots to let Apple have this experiment before they go global and only Apple branded.
Me, I am going to sit this one out. Watch and see what happens and hope I can pick an N95 cheap in a few months when someone gets tired of their new toy. I doubt I will ever own an iPhone, but never say never.
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I agree with this but it isnt what I am talking about. Im not talking about unlocked and unbranded. I am talking about why they are only selling them branded on ONE network. There is no reason they cant sell them branded, and preset to either TMobile or ATT. You can buy whatever stupid Moto RazrX42 is out now on multiple networks, preset for that network and it wont require any more setup from one network to another.
Secondary reason: simplicity selling at the Apple Store. If it's on two or more carriers they have training and setup infrastructure for two or more sets of plans, plus two inventory SKUs for the same device (one for each brand). Not a chance. Yeah, other stores sell many phones for multiple providers, but do they do a good job of it? Or, alternatively, they could play favorites at the Apple Store and choose one of the two. How would that go over at the non-favored provider? Doesn't work well. To translate the Apple Store model to selling the iPhone, it has to be one provider. That will be complicated enough with all the different voice plans, although perhaps there is something unique in that arena as well? We don't know for certain yet what the plans are....
(I was posting this last night right at the FT maintenance window. Oops! Had to wait until now.)
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http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/26activate.html
Activate the phone in iTunes

This means you can buy the phone in store and just activate it at home. I was wondering how Apple was going to handle all the in-store activations...
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Forget about activation, although there is a $36 activation fee I heard.
The plans seem to have fairly competitive rates. At worst no higher than comparable smart/PDA voice and data combinations.
The plans seem to have fairly competitive rates. At worst no higher than comparable smart/PDA voice and data combinations.
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HA! See, I was right:
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/26activate.html
Activate the phone in iTunes
This means you can buy the phone in store and just activate it at home. I was wondering how Apple was going to handle all the in-store activations...
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/26activate.html
Activate the phone in iTunes

This means you can buy the phone in store and just activate it at home. I was wondering how Apple was going to handle all the in-store activations...
This is gonna be a damper to many
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AT&T and Apple today announced three subscription plans for the iPhone
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8035.html
Following a lot of speculation surrounding data plans for the iPhone, AT&T and Apple today unveiled three dedicated iPhone subscription plans. Steve Jobs said in a statement that these three plans give customers the flexibility to experience all of the iPhone's features.
All iPhone plans include Visual Voicemail, which allows users to see a listing of their voicemails, decide which messages to listen to, and then go directly to those messages without listening to previous messages.
All iPhone monthly service plans are available for individuals and families and are based on a new two-year agreement with AT&T. Individual plans are priced at $59.99 for 450 minutes, $79.99 for 900 minutes and $99.99 for 1,350 minutes. All plans include unlimited data (e-mail and Web), Visual Voicemail, 200 SMS messages, roll-over minutes and unlimited mobile-to-mobile calling. There's also a one-time activation fee of $36, while family plans will also be available.
iPhone customers can also choose from any of AT&T's standard service plans.
So, if I do the math correctly, $59.99 X 24 months before tax equals over $1,400 for two years, plus cost of iPhone. Total outlay, $2K.
I'd really be curious how many families will sign up - say a family of three: mom/dad/child = $6K outlay....wow!
Following a lot of speculation surrounding data plans for the iPhone, AT&T and Apple today unveiled three dedicated iPhone subscription plans. Steve Jobs said in a statement that these three plans give customers the flexibility to experience all of the iPhone's features.
All iPhone plans include Visual Voicemail, which allows users to see a listing of their voicemails, decide which messages to listen to, and then go directly to those messages without listening to previous messages.
All iPhone monthly service plans are available for individuals and families and are based on a new two-year agreement with AT&T. Individual plans are priced at $59.99 for 450 minutes, $79.99 for 900 minutes and $99.99 for 1,350 minutes. All plans include unlimited data (e-mail and Web), Visual Voicemail, 200 SMS messages, roll-over minutes and unlimited mobile-to-mobile calling. There's also a one-time activation fee of $36, while family plans will also be available.
iPhone customers can also choose from any of AT&T's standard service plans.
So, if I do the math correctly, $59.99 X 24 months before tax equals over $1,400 for two years, plus cost of iPhone. Total outlay, $2K.
I'd really be curious how many families will sign up - say a family of three: mom/dad/child = $6K outlay....wow!
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iPhone customers can also choose from any of AT&T's standard service plans.
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So, if I do the math correctly, $59.99 X 24 months before tax equals over $1,400 for two years, plus cost of iPhone. Total outlay, $2K.
I'd really be curious how many families will sign up - say a family of three: mom/dad/child = $6K outlay....wow!
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So, if I do the math correctly, $59.99 X 24 months before tax equals over $1,400 for two years, plus cost of iPhone. Total outlay, $2K.
I'd really be curious how many families will sign up - say a family of three: mom/dad/child = $6K outlay....wow!

So, if you're already paying a monthly cellphone bill, then the only costs you'd incur would be the incremental charges and the device cost. Without looking at the details of the family plan, I could switch to the $79.99 plan on my line, my wife keeps her current phone for $10, drop the data and text messaging, and I'd basically be at the same cost out-of-pocket. Personally, I won't be switching because I've already got a perfectly good 30GB iPod and 2GB Nano to cover my music needs.
Heck, if you've got a non-corporate Blackberry/smartphone just to get e-mail access with a $45/mo data plan + voice plan charges, the iPhone would be cheaper over a 2-year contract.
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