Thoughts on the new MacBook Pros?
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I have a M1 Pro MBP. It is quite good. Do you have a specific reason that you would want a Pro instead of an Air? I got the Pro because of the SD card port and additional USB-C ports, and because I do a reasonable amount of computational work.
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I have two MBPs, M1 Pro (work-issued) and M1 Max (personal). These machines are incredible. I have yet to hear the fan on either machine, and I run pretty computationally intensive workloads. Compared to the previous generation of Intel Macs, I would not hesitate to upgrade (unless you desperately need to dual-boot Windows).
What I will say is that MBPs are pretty heavy. If "thin and light" are important to you, and your workload consists mostly of "browsing the internet" and "word processing" then consider the M2 Air.
What I will say is that MBPs are pretty heavy. If "thin and light" are important to you, and your workload consists mostly of "browsing the internet" and "word processing" then consider the M2 Air.
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Ah, mostly because the many of the programs I use run best with 16 GBs of RAM; and, I just didn't like the extra cost of the Air with the 8 gig addition. Value wise, it seems as if the Pros are a better buy given the specs, at least to me. Also, would prefer HDMI2 and hook up to a pair of 4Ks or 8Ks when using a docking bay.
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Ah, mostly because the many of the programs I use run best with 16 GBs of RAM; and, I just didn't like the extra cost of the Air with the 8 gig addition. Value wise, it seems as if the Pros are a better buy given the specs, at least to me. Also, would prefer HDMI2 and hook up to a pair of 4Ks or 8Ks when using a docking bay.
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I got a new MBP last year after a ~10 year old MB Air died on me. I guess I should have updated this thread with what I ended up doing:
Replace MacBook Air battery -v- Replace Computer
It is slightly heavier, but I think the new Air would have been also. Overall, it is a great machine.
Costco and Sam's seem to regularly have these on sale; if not right now, wait a week or so and check back, unless you need it ASAP.
Replace MacBook Air battery -v- Replace Computer
It is slightly heavier, but I think the new Air would have been also. Overall, it is a great machine.
Costco and Sam's seem to regularly have these on sale; if not right now, wait a week or so and check back, unless you need it ASAP.
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If you just want a comparison of M1 vs M2 for the MacBook Pro:
M2 is roughly 30% faster, which might not mean much considering how big of a jump M1 was. If you are doing any GPU intensive use like video editing, thats where you might see a bigger benefit of the M2 over M1.
M2 has WiFi 6E while M1 has WiFi 6, so M2 is a little more future proof.
M2 supports up to 96GB of ram, vs 64 on M1.
M1 is just fine and the only reason to upgrade to M2 is if you need the extra ram or better GPU, which are pretty specific use cases.
M2 is roughly 30% faster, which might not mean much considering how big of a jump M1 was. If you are doing any GPU intensive use like video editing, thats where you might see a bigger benefit of the M2 over M1.
M2 has WiFi 6E while M1 has WiFi 6, so M2 is a little more future proof.
M2 supports up to 96GB of ram, vs 64 on M1.
M1 is just fine and the only reason to upgrade to M2 is if you need the extra ram or better GPU, which are pretty specific use cases.
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Admittedly, I hate Windows and just want an opportunity to stop having to use it. I'm equally comfortable with either OS, but much prefer the simple elegance of the Mac one.
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My current Macbook is still running legacy Intel chips because some of my professional programs would only run on the Intel based chips. Now that all the programs I require have made the transition to run on the new ARM CPUs, I could just opt for Macs moving forward without having to deal with Windows, virtual machines, or any of those hassles.
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Also, keep in mind the airs are passively cooled notebooks (vs the pros which are actively cooled).
When I'm scripting, neither will really affect me. But if I'm running VMs to test things, the storage speed and the cooling will... I suspect you're somewhere inbetween.
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You're right, I'm definitely somewhere in between. For whatever reason, the financial based programs I run don't appear to be coded very efficiently; in other words, they're relatively small in scope but over time just suck up resources like a vacuum. So, hence I require the extra RAM and probably a dedicated GPU would help, because these programs are just not written very well, in my layman's estimation.
Finally, yeah, the passive cooling is one of the reasons I've been avoiding the new Airs. Perhaps, my views here are outdated, but I'm from a time when heat is the number one mortal enemy for performance (I actually have a liquid cooling solution for my dedicated desktop) especially in a laptop with confined quarters. So, rightly or wrongly, I'd at the very least want an effective heat sink and much prefer fans--give me noise over throttling.
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Thanks for the heads up on the drive throughput issue, something I'd never have considered without your pointing it out. I had to resort to running some VMs (used and prefer VMWare) but these days with all of my necessary programs running on the new Mac CPUs, it's likely no longer an issue and something I'd much rather avoid.
You're right, I'm definitely somewhere in between. For whatever reason, the financial based programs I run don't appear to be coded very efficiently; in other words, they're relatively small in scope but over time just suck up resources like a vacuum. So, hence I require the extra RAM and probably a dedicated GPU would help, because these programs are just not written very well, in my layman's estimation.
Finally, yeah, the passive cooling is one of the reasons I've been avoiding the new Airs. Perhaps, my views here are outdated, but I'm from a time when heat is the number one mortal enemy for performance (I actually have a liquid cooling solution for my dedicated desktop) especially in a laptop with confined quarters. So, rightly or wrongly, I'd at the very least want an effective heat sink and much prefer fans--give me noise over throttling.
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Does your finance app use a database? That's usually where the culprit is. If it does utilize an old style database, I'd check to see if there is a maintenance component. Many database apps don't truly delete obsolete records. Instead, it just flags the data and ignores it. Back in the olden days, you'd have to shut down, back up the database and then run a compression app that removes the obsolete data.
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This is probably what's most likely causing the issue. At this point, I'm really not sure how to fix the issue and just have to reboot every once in a while to make it manageable. While extra RAM & GPU may help, it certainly doesn't resolve it. But, at least, they can now run on Mac ARM CPUs, which is something, I suppose.
MacOS might better manage resources, but the same issue is likely to happen.