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Old Nov 20, 2014, 3:48 pm
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Delta says:

PED use on the ground and during takeoff and landing should be limited to small, lightweight devices less than 2 lbs. These devices should be of a size that could easily be secured in a seat pocket without exceeding the designed weight capacity of 3 lbs. including all contents of seat pocket (safety card, Sky magazine, airsickness bag) and not impede emergency egress to the aisle.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...c-devices.html
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 4:16 pm
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There's plenty of cases of passengers being injured from objects throw around the cabins
Sources please?
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 4:16 pm
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I don't think passengers should be using any sort of solid device while landing
Thankfully, the FAA does not agree with you.
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ScottC
Sources please?
30 second Google search.

http://www.fss.aero/accident-reports...report_key=985
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/A...8WAKE_HF_AW%29
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles...bulence.326329

http://m.ewn.co.za/2014/07/17/turbulence-and-truculence
http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4788154...181_final.docx

F=MA. I once treated a fairly serious head injury on a man sustained after a car accident launched a tissue box on the rear parcel shelf of his vehicle into his head. The sharp corners did some damage. Now imagine what a tablet flying across the cabin from a crash landing will do.
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 5:37 pm
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What is people's experience with devices the size of the Surface Pro 3 and the TSA at security lines?
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 5:46 pm
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I use a Surface Pro 2 both on take-off and landing but I always detach the keyboard and use it as a tablet.

Relative to TSA - someone without PreCheck is going to have to weigh in on that. Do they still ask you to take out your PC at the checkpoint?
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 6:37 pm
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I've seen a 13" convertible used in tablet mode during takeoff/landing in F on AS with no protest from the FAs. Just one data point...
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JMN57
I use a Surface Pro 2 both on take-off and landing but I always detach the keyboard and use it as a tablet.

Relative to TSA - someone without PreCheck is going to have to weigh in on that. Do they still ask you to take out your PC at the checkpoint?

My friend with the Surface Pro has PreCheck but often flies Spirit which doesn't have PreCheck support.
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by CitizenWorld
F=MA. I once treated a fairly serious head injury on a man sustained after a car accident launched a tissue box on the rear parcel shelf of his vehicle into his head. The sharp corners did some damage. Now imagine what a tablet flying across the cabin from a crash landing will do.
The difference being, of course, that a tablet would most often be held by a pax or in the seatback. It is possible it could get loose from one of those in a "crash landing", but if that were the case, there would be more important things to worry about...
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Dubai Stu
My friend with the Surface Pro has PreCheck but often flies Spirit which doesn't have PreCheck support.
How much does Spirit charge him to take a SP onboard?

It is funny when you get used to PreCheck that you totally lose track of what the "normal" process is. The only downside with it is that it is no longer a 30 second walk-through process with the # of people they are shunting into the line. I don't mind the fact that there are more people in the line, I just don't like that they are clueless and take a 30 second process and make it a 1 minute one. When you add that up over 6 or so people, it now takes longer to get through the process.
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Old Nov 22, 2014, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by HDQDD
The difference being, of course, that a tablet would most often be held by a pax or in the seatback. It is possible it could get loose from one of those in a "crash landing", but if that were the case, there would be more important things to worry about...
I'd rather minimise the risk of injury to myself or others in any event. Things being thrown from hand in event of a hard shock would not surprise me.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 8:05 pm
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I'd rather minimise the risk of injury to myself or others in any event. Things being thrown from hand in event of a hard shock would not surprise me.
Fair enough. But if I had to guess, I suspect that most people think it's worth the relatively small risk. I certainly do, which is why it doesn't bother me.
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by CitizenWorld
30 second Google search.

http://www.fss.aero/accident-reports...report_key=985
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/A...8WAKE_HF_AW%29
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles...bulence.326329

http://m.ewn.co.za/2014/07/17/turbulence-and-truculence
http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4788154...181_final.docx

F=MA. I once treated a fairly serious head injury on a man sustained after a car accident launched a tissue box on the rear parcel shelf of his vehicle into his head. The sharp corners did some damage. Now imagine what a tablet flying across the cabin from a crash landing will do.
Please tell me you don't work for any regulatory agency - this remote risk is the absurdity that is air travel. I'm glad you're "responsible" and don't carry tablets (or presumably tissues ).

I've always been surprised by the stupid excuses for limiting other people's behavior, using the fact that it's happened doesn't make the limitation reasonable. Frankly on a risk assessment I'm surprised you fly at all!

On a related issue, when are they going to get rid of the instructions on how to do up a seatbelt . Seems most of us have figured that one out over the past 35 years!
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Old Nov 25, 2014, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Dubai Stu
What is people's experience with devices the size of the Surface Pro 3 and the TSA at security lines?
Even before I had Precheck, I never removed my Surface Pro 3 from my carry on and never had an issue.

Similarly, OP, I have never been asked to stow my Surface Pro 3 for takeoff or landing. However, I do make sure to either remove or fold back the keyboard so as not to create any potential confusion.
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Old Nov 25, 2014, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by duhe
Even before I had Precheck, I never removed my Surface Pro 3 from my carry on and never had an issue.

Similarly, OP, I have never been asked to stow my Surface Pro 3 for takeoff or landing. However, I do make sure to either remove or fold back the keyboard so as not to create any potential confusion.
As a counterpoint, I have been asked to remove my original Surface Pro when going through standard Security lines, though only when I've had the Power Cover on it... never with the Touch Cover.
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