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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 11:07 am
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Apple SIM Card

The iPad Air 2 has the following tech which I hope will be soon available on the iPhone.

Here's the Neat iPad Feature Apple Didn't Mention
A preinstalled data-only SIM card has been inserted into the $499 iPad Air 2, and allows users to change carriers at the tap of a finger.
Apple unveils new multi-carrier 'Apple SIM' bundled with new iPads
"And when you travel, you may also be able to choose a data plan from a local carrier for the duration of your trip," the company said.
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 8:07 am
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Boy do I think could be a Trojan Horse. Imagine what it will do when you hand in a country and have the ability to buy a prepaid plan from your iPhone account and have service before you get to the jetway. What is the chance this SIM won't come to the iPhone?
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 8:51 am
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From the same article:

"At launch, only AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile in the U.S. and EE in the U.K. have signed on. Apple does hint that more may be available in the future, however."
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 8:52 am
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Why can't you take sim out of ipad and put it in iphone? I see a potential black market for this unless it requires some form of hardware and maybe even software authentication.
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by nas6034
Why can't you take sim out of ipad and put it in iphone? I see a potential black market for this unless it requires some form of hardware and maybe even software authentication.
It most likely requires a very specific baseband software version, along with software on the device. I suspect that within a few months, it will be a standard feature on all Apple devices - would certainly save a fortune in logistics alone.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:20 am
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Originally Posted by ScottC
would certainly save a fortune in logistics alone.
Absolutely. Consider what the Apple Store must stock now in the US when it comes to iPhones: 4 carriers x 3 colors x 3 memory sizes = 36 different SKU's, and that's for each of the 4 models they're selling.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 2:13 am
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How easy is it to choose a carrier when travelling and a plan as well?
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 3:00 am
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I'm going to guess that the idea is that they are working to sign up carriers in as many countries as possible so that when you land in a given country you are prompted to stay with your existing carrier at X price point, or take data from the local carrier at Y price point. As such, carriers would sign up and provide service similarly priced (or more or less) to the local prepaid SIM plans and you would be charged using your Apple ID. This should make it much easier to get online upon touchdown.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by yosithezet
I'm going to guess that the idea is that they are working to sign up carriers in as many countries as possible so that when you land in a given country you are prompted to stay with your existing carrier at X price point, or take data from the local carrier at Y price point. As such, carriers would sign up and provide service similarly priced (or more or less) to the local prepaid SIM plans and you would be charged using your Apple ID. This should make it much easier to get online upon touchdown.
It would certainly make sense. I think it's a short slope from there to the long-rumored virtual embedded SIM that Apple tried for a while ago.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 6:33 am
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It would certainly make sense. I think it's a short slope from there to the long-rumored virtual embedded SIM that Apple tried for a while ago.

I think one of OP's linked articles stated that the carriers balked at the idea of a virtual sim. However, I'm curious to see if Apple would only stock one version of each of their products. I know the carriers would want their "bloat ware" on the devices. On second thought, on idevices is there carrier bloat ware on the carrier specific models?
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 7:04 am
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After reading the second article, it seems it's a regular SIM that can be removed.
So wouldn't I be able to use the SIM in any iPad (or really any data-only device for that matter)?
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
After reading the second article, it seems it's a regular SIM that can be removed.
So wouldn't I be able to use the SIM in any iPad (or really any data-only device for that matter)?
Not necessarily. In the same way that a phone can be set up such that it can only be used with a specific SIM or network, the SIM should be able to be set such that it will only be accepted by a network if it is being used by a device with a specific IMEI or unique device identification number.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 1:32 pm
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I think Verizon will be onboard with this soon enough. Historically, more Verizon cellular ipads were sold, I can't see that changing. It's probably just a bit more negotiating and working out the carrier connect kinks to get it rolling with Verizon. What would be REALLY nice is if this would apply internationally as well, so head to europe and just pick t-mobile for a week, or toggle or whomever, wherever you are. THAT would be true nirvana!
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by yosithezet
Not necessarily. In the same way that a phone can be set up such that it can only be used with a specific SIM or network, the SIM should be able to be set such that it will only be accepted by a network if it is being used by a device with a specific IMEI or unique device identification number.
Conditionally whitelisted? I'm not sure how that would fly with privacy legislation in some places, but that being allowed in various markets -- including the US -- is indeed possible.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 6:36 am
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How does privacy come into this? It ships with a SIM tied to the IMEI. Use it or don't.
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