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maortega15 Sep 10, 2014 9:54 am


Originally Posted by Jimmie76 (Post 23504743)
From talking to an American retail executive recently Chip 'n' pin will be mandatory for the US next year sometime. He said that they were looking forward to it.

So the "blink" feature or those credit cards with the tap and pay like Mastercard's paypass are going away in favor of Chip and signature?

PDXracer Sep 10, 2014 9:57 am

Just for information's sake (and I own a Nexus 5, which is better than the 4)

http://i.imgur.com/HsHQ56y.jpg

dtsm Sep 10, 2014 10:01 am

Luv it when all the android fanboys come crashing in....adds a little spice to the thread
^^^

And my son luvs his Nexus 4 and I like my backup Moto G running on TMO:D

Jimmie76 Sep 10, 2014 11:02 am


Originally Posted by maortega15 (Post 23504805)
So the "blink" feature or those credit cards with the tap and pay like Mastercard's paypass are going away in favor of Chip and signature?

It's not chip and signature it's chip and pin, it's not good enough to just have the card for purchases you need to know the 4 digit pin and enter it into the terminal at the time of purchase. No pin no purchase, we don't accept UK cards without it and will do a Code 10 on foreign cards without it over a certain amount. NFC cards which is what I assume you mean by blink, normally incorporate chip and pin can only be used for smaller amounts (~£10-£15) paying by NFC as you don't need to enter anything to verify your identity. Larger amounts need to be done via chip and pin so that the identity of the purchaser can be verified.

gobluetwo Sep 10, 2014 11:35 am

3rd party keyboards is big (and oh-so late to the party). I hate typing on my wife's iPhone 5. So much more used to the BB physical keyboard and pretty much any Android keyboard (Swiftkey, Swype, my default Xperia keyboard). At least my iPad has enough screen real estate that I can touchtype in landscape model.


Originally Posted by Jimmie76 (Post 23505142)
It's not chip and signature it's chip and pin, it's not good enough to just have the card for purchases you need to know the 4 digit pin and enter it into the terminal at the time of purchase. No pin no purchase, we don't accept UK cards without it and will do a Code 10 on foreign cards without it over a certain amount. NFC cards which is what I assume you mean by blink, normally incorporate chip and pin can only be used for smaller amounts (~£10-£15) paying by NFC as you don't need to enter anything to verify your identity. Larger amounts need to be done via chip and pin so that the identity of the purchaser can be verified.

I'm pretty sure most people here know what chip and PIN is ;)
Last I heard, most US card issuers were going chip-sig, not chip-PIN.

msb0b Sep 10, 2014 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by dtsm (Post 23504838)
Luv it when all the android fanboys come crashing in....adds a little spice to the thread
^^^

I prefer this comparison :D http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/09/1...apanese-otaku/

dtsm Sep 10, 2014 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by msb0b (Post 23505537)


As a lucky apple shareholder since 1991, bring it on. My 401[K] says: "Any news is good news"

LOL. ;)

CPRich Sep 10, 2014 1:55 pm

Fwiw, the first CPU benchmark has been reported/claimed and the lowly dual-core, 1GB iPhone6 appears to slightly exceed the quad-core 2GB Moto X at the top of the phones on the Android CPU benchmarks.

25% faster than the 5s

SRQ Guy Sep 10, 2014 1:58 pm

Benchmarks are worthless because they can be gamed. The only thing that matters is real-world performance. iPhones outperform their specs, there's no doubt about that. The software and hardware are tightly integrated, and they use finesse vs Android's brute force to get tasks done.

DenverBrian Sep 10, 2014 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by SRQ Guy (Post 23506078)
Benchmarks are worthless because they can be gamed. The only thing that matters is real-world performance. iPhones outperform their specs, there's no doubt about that. The software and hardware are tightly integrated, and they use finesse vs Android's brute force to get tasks done.

What exactly does that mean? I have yet to stress any of my fingers more or expend more calories using a smartphone vs. an iPhone. :confused:

HDQDD Sep 10, 2014 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 23504492)
- 5s deja vu. More doesn't mean better

Unless you actually use it.


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 23504492)
2 - batteries aren't magic, they take up space. More so than almost any other component. The 6 Plus has a bigger battery with the larger form factor. I'd understand wanting more life in exchange for a bigger size, but not understanding why it can't have better battery life seems odd.

[Battery capacity does not] have a linear relationship with size, not to mention that's only half the equation. Battery technology is evolving all the time. More power storage in the same amount of space (not to mention even the "small" phone got ~15% bigger). At the same time, newer hardware requires less power. Which tech evolution is happening faster changes day by day. There's no reason that Apple can't shell out a few more bucks and buy a battery with more storage or find a way for its hardware/OS to use less power. It's competitors have figured this out...


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 23504492)
3 - I suspect it's more a cost than an ability. They're using it for the watch and the touch/phone components, so the suppliers know how to work with it. But it's pricy. We'll see how the "ion treatments" work. My kids's devices will still get the insurance plan.

And the watches aren't coming out until next year...

HDQDD Sep 10, 2014 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 23506061)
Fwiw, the first CPU benchmark has been reported/claimed and the lowly dual-core, 1GB iPhone6 appears to slightly exceed the quad-core 2GB Moto X at the top of the phones on the Android CPU benchmarks.

25% faster than the 5s

RAM doesn't really have anything to do with a *CPU* benchmark test. But yes, the CPU benchmark looks good.

SRQ Guy Sep 10, 2014 2:50 pm


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 23506165)
What exactly does that mean? I have yet to stress any of my fingers more or expend more calories using a smartphone vs. an iPhone. :confused:

Apple uses clock cycles very efficiently, and everything is tightly integrated to maximize that efficiency. Android handsets use the brute force of more RAM and faster processors to achieve similar results, without the efficiency. This is why Apple handsets meet or even beat Android flagships at many tasks, despite having less RAM and slower-clocked processors with fewer cores. It's also why Apple handsets can last all day on a much smaller battery than a flagship Android device. At the risk of stating the obvious, clock cycles use energy.

piper28 Sep 10, 2014 2:55 pm

I think the real question with apple pay is whether stores will actually adopt it or not. Maybe if who they contract with for their credit card processing machines release a new machine that has both apple pay and chip/pin capability in one device, it could happen. But I honestly don't see a lot of retailers running out to add this feature, especially since they *are* going to be having to replace the devices for machines that can handle chipped cards. The other question is whether they'll put up with the additional fee that's going to be tacked on from apple for the privilege. I certainly wouldn't expect to see this in smaller businesses simply because of that fee, there's a number of small business already that would far prefer you do a debit card than a credit card transaction just because of the larger charge with a credit card. (Personally, I feel this is really a large issue with *all* of the digital wallet type systems.)

GUWonder Sep 10, 2014 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by gobluetwo (Post 23505310)
3rd party keyboards is big (and oh-so late to the party). I hate typing on my wife's iPhone 5.

Are your talking about external hardware keyboards? I've had a 3rd party Bluetooth keyboard with my iOS deceives going back to when the 4S came out.


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