Prorating AT&T Global Data Plans
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The Wifi is 100% useless.
If it even exists, you can likely get on with Boingo or Skype anyway (and Skype is cheap, and Boingo is free with the Amex Platinum).
The Wifi is just nonsense to beef up the plan. I'd love to see a usage number on that - probably pretty close to zero.
If it even exists, you can likely get on with Boingo or Skype anyway (and Skype is cheap, and Boingo is free with the Amex Platinum).
The Wifi is just nonsense to beef up the plan. I'd love to see a usage number on that - probably pretty close to zero.
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Bundling data, text, and WiFi is more convenient for me, but the pro-rated scenario was a better deal.
Anyone tried to actually use AT&T's int'l WiFi hotspots? They require an app that doesn't work well (judging from the iPhone reviews at least) to connect to hotspots that are hard to find and only in the major cities.
Anyone tried to actually use AT&T's int'l WiFi hotspots? They require an app that doesn't work well (judging from the iPhone reviews at least) to connect to hotspots that are hard to find and only in the major cities.
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I will admit I can see why AT&T can't really let people have 120MB of int'l data for $3 if they go on a three-day trip, it would be nice if now that there's not prorated pricing they would have a lower-tier plan with less data at less expense for short trips.
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Booo to this change, which I just realized when I tried to turn on data.
I will admit I can see why AT&T can't really let people have 120MB of int'l data for $3 if they go on a three-day trip, it would be nice if now that there's not prorated pricing they would have a lower-tier plan with less data at less expense for short trips.
I will admit I can see why AT&T can't really let people have 120MB of int'l data for $3 if they go on a three-day trip, it would be nice if now that there's not prorated pricing they would have a lower-tier plan with less data at less expense for short trips.
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I moved to T-Mo. Can't say I'm really happy with the coverage. Some places are better, some are worse. But at least none of that crap.
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not sure
the "3 month minimum" seems to apply to an ATT GLOBAL package (not really sure what that is exactly) and not the new listed ATT PASSPORT packages.. it could be some sort of legacy language that they forgot to remove. The T&C's listed for the ATT PASSPORT packages don't seem to include this 3 month language at all
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My understanding is:
AT&T Global Passport Automatically Ends 30 Days From Effective Date
but
AT&T Global Package Has a 3 Month Minimum.
AT&T Global Passport Automatically Ends 30 Days From Effective Date
but
AT&T Global Package Has a 3 Month Minimum.
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When I go to my account and actually try to add a package, they show up. It seems to be exactly the same as the Passport packages. I guess the only difference is it automatically renew month to month. And it will probably prorate if you cancel in the middle of a billing period, so that's why it has a 3 months minimum to prevent people using it for a week and cancel.
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Bumping this to see if anyone has added the automatic renewal plan (now only 2 months minimum vs 3, btw) and cancelled within a month and not charged for the minimum, but only prorated like it used to be??
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I and many others have put on the plans for weeks or a month, it rolls OFF after the one month UNLESS renewed.
I think the only reason there would be a 2 month minimum is IF you set it up directly with them to RECUR, then it has to RECUR at least once. This seems to be an exception to the normal plan policy which is for 1 month only, no recurring and one has to call/text/sign-up with the app to have it enabled for a 2nd month, if no recurring was established in advance..
seems to make sense actually.
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If you are talking about the global data plans in the passport plans that are now available, then no there is no 2 or 3 month minimum.
I and many others have put on the plans for weeks or a month, it rolls OFF after the one month UNLESS renewed.
I think the only reason there would be a 2 month minimum is IF you set it up directly with them to RECUR, then it has to RECUR at least once. This seems to be an exception to the normal plan policy which is for 1 month only, no recurring and one has to call/text/sign-up with the app to have it enabled for a 2nd month, if no recurring was established in advance..
seems to make sense actually.
I and many others have put on the plans for weeks or a month, it rolls OFF after the one month UNLESS renewed.
I think the only reason there would be a 2 month minimum is IF you set it up directly with them to RECUR, then it has to RECUR at least once. This seems to be an exception to the normal plan policy which is for 1 month only, no recurring and one has to call/text/sign-up with the app to have it enabled for a 2nd month, if no recurring was established in advance..
seems to make sense actually.
The OLD Int'l data plan had a language that stated a minimum of one month was required. HOWEVER, that was never enforced and people were getting prorated if they only turned it on for 5 days, for example. They were only charged for 5 days.
The NEW Global data plan has a ONE TIME charge option, which the system will automatically charges the FULL one month fee, without it being prorated. Many of us have confirmed this.
HOWEVER, there is still another NEW automatic renew/recurring plan option that has a language stating a 2 month minimum (used to be 3, even with the new plan). HOWEVER, no one has ever confirmed that AT&T is indeed charging a minimum of 2 months or they are still prorating under this plan. Yes, their website indicates a minimum period, but the question many are asking is whether or not they are ENFORCING this, because they never did with the old plan, even with the minimum language in the T&C.
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No that's not what I am talking about...a lot of FTers seem to be confused about this since the beginning of this thread.
The OLD Int'l data plan had a language that stated a minimum of one month was required. HOWEVER, that was never enforced and people were getting prorated if they only turned it on for 5 days, for example. They were only charged for 5 days.
The NEW Global data plan has a ONE TIME charge option, which the system will automatically charges the FULL one month fee, without it being prorated. Many of us have confirmed this.
HOWEVER, there is still another NEW automatic renew/recurring plan option that has a language stating a 2 month minimum (used to be 3, even with the new plan). HOWEVER, no one has ever confirmed that AT&T is indeed charging a minimum of 2 months or they are still prorating under this plan. Yes, their website indicates a minimum period, but the question many are asking is whether or not they are ENFORCING this, because they never did with the old plan, even with the minimum language in the T&C.
The OLD Int'l data plan had a language that stated a minimum of one month was required. HOWEVER, that was never enforced and people were getting prorated if they only turned it on for 5 days, for example. They were only charged for 5 days.
The NEW Global data plan has a ONE TIME charge option, which the system will automatically charges the FULL one month fee, without it being prorated. Many of us have confirmed this.
HOWEVER, there is still another NEW automatic renew/recurring plan option that has a language stating a 2 month minimum (used to be 3, even with the new plan). HOWEVER, no one has ever confirmed that AT&T is indeed charging a minimum of 2 months or they are still prorating under this plan. Yes, their website indicates a minimum period, but the question many are asking is whether or not they are ENFORCING this, because they never did with the old plan, even with the minimum language in the T&C.
The new ones, seems to only apply the 1 month full allotment and fee. IT is not in my and others experience pro-rated at all. Historically, I do recall it being pro-rated, but the data allotment also was. This was nearly 4+ years ago though. I haven't seen it function that way in a few years and I use the plan yearly.
I have seen family members do two months on the "new" plans, and have been charged two months 2x30$ or 2x60$, regardless of when one returned or turned off the plan.. usually LESS than two full months by a matter of weeks. so that seems to confirm that it's simply buckets of 30x or 60x or whatever passport plan one chooses.
What is the reason to know if it is pro-rated or not? Just to save 10-20$?
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so, as you know the "old" int'l data plan, the no limit one and the old separate data only plans are no longer available. Some people still have the no limit plan (we have a couple) but unless you're on a moon of endor it's not available and moot.
The new ones, seems to only apply the 1 month full allotment and fee. IT is not in my and others experience pro-rated at all. Historically, I do recall it being pro-rated, but the data allotment also was. This was nearly 4+ years ago though. I haven't seen it function that way in a few years and I use the plan yearly.
I have seen family members do two months on the "new" plans, and have been charged two months 2x30$ or 2x60$, regardless of when one returned or turned off the plan.. usually LESS than two full months by a matter of weeks. so that seems to confirm that it's simply buckets of 30x or 60x or whatever passport plan one chooses.
What is the reason to know if it is pro-rated or not? Just to save 10-20$?
The new ones, seems to only apply the 1 month full allotment and fee. IT is not in my and others experience pro-rated at all. Historically, I do recall it being pro-rated, but the data allotment also was. This was nearly 4+ years ago though. I haven't seen it function that way in a few years and I use the plan yearly.
I have seen family members do two months on the "new" plans, and have been charged two months 2x30$ or 2x60$, regardless of when one returned or turned off the plan.. usually LESS than two full months by a matter of weeks. so that seems to confirm that it's simply buckets of 30x or 60x or whatever passport plan one chooses.
What is the reason to know if it is pro-rated or not? Just to save 10-20$?
For the old plan, the monthly charge WAS prorated but the data was NOT. For example, if you turned the 800MB/$120 on for two days only. You would get 800MB for 2 days but were only charged $8 instead of $120. This was when ATT had the one month minimum charge which they did not enforce.
The reason to know if they still prorate the recurring plan and not enforcing the new 2 month minimum is to know whether or not they are still charging you only $8 instead of $120.
Your family picked the one time charge plan which will be charged regardless of when you turn off and on, which we have already established, but that is not the plan I'm talking about here.

